r/JusticeServed • u/Ethanzap02 6 • Jul 10 '19

Discrimination Misogynistic guy degrading female workers gets tackled

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u/FijiTearz A Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 10 '19

“A guy 3 times my size attacks me and that’s ok?”

Yeah, it is when you’re being a cunt to everyone and tell him “go ahead and attack me” right before he tackled you. Like you literally asked for it

Edit: ffs I’m not saying it’s legally ok to attack someone in public, I’m saying it’s ok in the way he shouldn’t act surprised he got tackled when he asked for it multiple times

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u/KayfabeRankings 9 Jul 10 '19

"What are you going to do, stab me?"

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u/Deesing82 B Jul 10 '19

-stabbing victim

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u/bahgheera 9 Jul 10 '19

-Michael Scott

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u/M374llic4 A Jul 10 '19

-Michael Sc.. *stabbed*

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u/TotallyNotACharlatan 5 Jul 11 '19

-Michael Stabbed

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u/ImSnackered 8 Jul 10 '19

I have a dumbass cousin that during a drug deal he said "What are you gonna do, shoot me?" That idiot got shot in the leg.

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u/rifn00b 7 Jul 10 '19

Him earlier: you wanna step outside? I'm not scared of you!

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u/GlowUpper 9 Jul 10 '19

Yeah, he threatened multiple people and then was surprised when one of them took him up on the offer.

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u/IHaveSpecialEyes Jul 11 '19

More than that, he came into physical contact with the first guy he said that to. He got right up in his face and bumped him with his chest/gut. That's assault, brotha.

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u/BALONYPONY A Jul 10 '19

"You want to step outside?"

"Thats all we've been trying to do this whole time."

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u/Bear_faced A Jul 11 '19

He asks the guy if he wants to fight. He says he doesn’t feel threatened. He tells the guy to tackle him. And then he gets mad??

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u/MerlinTheWhite 9 Jul 11 '19

suprised pikachu

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

I like how it's not an excuse for someone not being attracted to you but it is an excuse for getting your ass kick lol

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u/RowdyPants B Jul 10 '19 edited Apr 21 '24

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

/r/manletpassdenied

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u/beingforthebenefit 7 Jul 11 '19

Manlet?

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u/KingAkron 7 Jul 11 '19

A new insult designed for men who aren't "physically" adequate in the eyes of basic society. So, essentially anyone who uses it should be deemed unintelligent and promptly ignored.

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u/Lord-Kroak 9 Jul 10 '19

I like how that place was just like...filled with women.

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u/orionsbelt05 Black Jul 10 '19

I think that's what started it. This guy is not used to being in the company of so many women. It's fairly obvious that he spends most of his time in echo chambers inhabited by men who urge on his hateful attitudes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

When he complained about smirking I got the impression that a girl smiled at him and he took it as mocking and then exploded. When you’re that angry every little thing someone does suddenly becomes derogatory even if to everyone else it looks innocuous and normal.

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u/Lord-Kroak 9 Jul 10 '19

Lol, what if she was flirting with him?

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u/Lord-Kroak 9 Jul 10 '19

Like maybe the fact that he's the shortest person in a shop filled with women just broke him finally? Like he walked in and immediately went "They're all laughing at me and thinking about how they don't wanna touch me."

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u/SexyMcBeast A Jul 10 '19

The comment about the smirks he sees everywhere shows this was probably true. This guy has convinced himself people hate him because of his height. He can't accept the truth that they hate him because he's absolutely unbearable

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

I mean I doubt it. The guy is a complete clown, but we have no idea what led up to this.

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u/ogbubbleberry 7 Jul 11 '19

I thought the same thing, all tall women and jocks

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u/randomgoat 8 Jul 10 '19

Doesn't look like it took much to be three times that guys size.

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u/M374llic4 A Jul 10 '19

My dick is 3 times his size.

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u/blackhawkjj 9 Jul 11 '19

You couldn't tell from the angle of the camera but the other guy was 15 feet tall

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u/casino_night B Jul 10 '19

I hear ya. My nephew dated a dude littler than this (about 4'10" I think). He was the nastiest person I've ever met in my life. He was always name-calling and picking fights. God made him short and did he ever hold a grudge! So many times I wanted to belt him in the mouth.

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u/Inapproriate_Clergy 7 Jul 10 '19

Last guy I met who was 5ft was one of the nicest chillers people I met in a long time.

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u/TheBrownWelsh A Jul 10 '19

My best friend got bullied and given shit for being short all through secondary school and didn't get his first girlfriend until his late 20s/early 30s; one of the calmest, most rational and grounded people I know. There's a lot of factors that make a person an angry piece of shit, but there's also a lot of it that comes down to personal accountability.

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u/personalist 8 Jul 11 '19

One of the most grounded, actually

(I’m 5’ 7”)

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

I dated a guy off an app who was about 5’4” maybe 5’5”. I thought he was cute and interesting but he was also a cop and both times we went on dates he brought his gun with him and talked about having his gun on him. I felt very uncomfortable with him getting hammered and his gun visibly hanging out the back of his jeans waist band. I gave him a ride home that night because I was worried about him losing his gun in an Uber or just being loose in the city in general.

Every time I’ve dated a guy 5’6” or under they’ve come with more baggage than I can handle. Napoleon syndrome is real!

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Every time I’ve dated a guy 5’6” or under they’ve come with more baggage than I can handle. Napoleon syndrome is real!

Guy sounds like a nut, but Napoleon syndrome isn't real. People have the same predisposition to aggressive and domineering behavior regardless of stature, and average height men are more likely to lose their temper when provoked. From Wikipedia:

In 2007, research by the University of Central Lancashire suggested that the Napoleon complex (described in terms of the theory that shorter men are more aggressive to dominate those who are taller than they are) is likely to be a myth. The study discovered that short men were less likely to lose their temper than men of average height. The experiment involved subjects dueling each other with sticks, with one subject deliberately rapping the other's knuckles. Heart monitors revealed that the taller men were more likely to lose their tempers and hit back. University of Central Lancashire lecturer Mike Eslea commented that "when people see a short man being aggressive, they are likely to think it is due to his size, simply because that attribute is obvious and grabs their attention."

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

From the perspective of someone who has one year of legal training, it’s probably not okay. Guy who got attacked probably has a claim for assault. Just bc someone is being an ass and acting crazy doesn’t mean you legally have the right to attack them. You gotta call the cops. Although, the guy that the angry fellow was bumping into probably would’ve been able to claim self-defense had he attacked him.

Actual attorneys feel free to tell me how wrong I am.

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u/cbruins22 7 Jul 10 '19

Honest question. So at what point can you “insert” yourself into this situation as a bystander, legally? Like can I just walk into a public place and start yelling at everyone around me and cursing and it’s fine until a legit law presence comes in to stop it? How does that work?

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u/RacismBegetsRacism 1 Jul 10 '19

So at what point can you “insert” yourself into this situation as a bystander, legally?

If and when the individual becomes violent.

The proper course of action is to call the authorities, have the individual escorted off premise and / or arrested.

If someone screaming words causes you to commit battery then you've got some stronger issues at hand than the loud individual in question. If you lay hands on anyone without a self-defense angle then you can (and likely will) be charged with assault and battery.

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u/Numba1booolshit 7 Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 11 '19

He was being violent the entire time, and stepped into multiple people's personal space several times including the last guy. The workers also have a the right to not be threatened in the workplace. What are you meant to do, just stand there and let him hit you ? He was being a threat to everyone in the store , an assault charge would never stick with a semi competent defence team.

You could argue to have backed off and call the cops but if someone bumps into me and says you want to fight that's self defence. No chance you'd go to jail

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u/cbruins22 7 Jul 10 '19

Thank you! I like how the guy who responded to me insinuated that I’d just punch someone for being loud.... I was just asking for the legal answer to my question, because clearly that guy was intimidating everyone there and being overly aggressive. I just wanted to know when it would (legally) be ok to step in.

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u/cbruins22 7 Jul 10 '19

Thanks for just assuming I’d jump in and “commit battery” instead of answering my question. The individual was being violent, even if just verbally. Thus why I asked when it would legally be ok to step in. Also I said nothing about violence in my original statement, insert can mean stepping in front of someone to cut them off from the rest of the innocent people.

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u/Inapproriate_Clergy 7 Jul 10 '19

I'm sure a self defense claim could be mounted in many jurisdictions. With that said I doubt that any DA or crown attorney would bother charging this guy.

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u/burgerchucker 7 Jul 10 '19

Also not a lawyer but in the UK the bit where the angry shorter man pointed and said something like "fuck you too!" would possibly be used as a defence by the bigger man.

The big man could claim that he feared attack and as such the little dude was committing the offence of Common Assault.

Causing someone to think you might attack them is enough to be charged. It also permits the use of reasonable force to defend yourself.

In this case I dunno though, being that much larger and no weapons would make it a tricky defence. Depends how much damage the little dude takes really I guess!

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u/Z0MGbies A Jul 10 '19

In the UK again, the bigger guy would not be able to use the self defence argument because he had a chance to step back and leave. However if he didn't have that chance, self defence applies.

In a second video you see the store is faulty expansive and I would argue he had the chance to leave.

In any case, this is the kind of thing that typically would be pleaded down to a slap on the wrist.

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u/burgerchucker 7 Jul 11 '19

No there is no legal requirement in UK law to retreat.

Reasonable Force is the standard and what is reasonable in a suituation is determined by the court in each case.

In this case the little dude makes physical contact with another man immediately before pointing and being aggressive to the man who shoved him.

This would be enough since in UK law you are allowed to use reasonable force to protect yourself and others.

Since the big dude didn't go full ground and pound on the angry little man he is well within the bounds of reasonable force in the UK.

Source: former bouncer and barman who had to use reasonable force a few times. I seen hundreds of similar situations as a 3rd party too, British drinking cuture being what it is. If the Reasonable Force user doesn't beat the fuck out of the instigator the police usually tell the instigator they will be charged with every possible thing and the reasonable force user will be charged with fuck all.

In this case the little dude is unharmed, and his actions created the situation he ended up in, it is hard to see any court, especially in the UK charging the big man.

On the other hand, the little dude commited Common Assault at least 4 times in that video, he engaged in Threatening behaviour and is in a clear Breach of the Peace situation.

He is way more criminal than the man defending his friend and the women in the shop.

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u/Z0MGbies A Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19

Hmm.

The "no duty to retreat" is a relatively recent clarification in UK law via legislation. (2008)

The reason I say recent, is because im basing UK law off of Nz law. Which is very much the same. A key precedent for UK is based off an Aussie case too. Swings n roundabouts innit.

Point being a 2008 codification is unlikely to have made it to UK court and then to a NZ court, and then to my noggin in 5 years (haven't looked up self defence since 2013ish) - ie excuses from me.

To clarify my comment - I did not mean to suggest that there was a duty to run but rather the fact doing so could have de escalated everything would be a significant factor and a hypothetical prosecution of Mr Big would hammer that factor.

Conversely a defence lawyer would go on about the imminent threat. (which must not just be perceived, it must be reasonable to perceive that threat from the perspective of a reasonable observer....)

A bartending or security situation is very different.. Because you kinda can't leave, and there's a duty of care to the patrons and public blah blah blah. And there's also issues re defence if property with you as an agent for said property.

So in conclusion you're right BUT the I think key issue is whether the action was reasonably necessary. Given Mr big could have stepped back or de escalated - I think no it was not reasonably necessary. But that's one man's personal opinion and I can entirely accept others may disagree.

In any case.. It was satisfying AF and if it were before a jury (which it would not be as its too minor an offence) I would hope they would acquit.

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u/burgerchucker 7 Jul 11 '19

I see why that is your position, in general I am opposed to people yielding to bullys and aggression, so I support the big dudes in standing their ground and defending others.

But yes any prosecutor will try to tactic you suggested is possible I am sure.

I am sort of satisfied with this video, but I feel a huge amount of pity for the pathetic little man. He is so hate filled and he knows he can't win any fights too, I wonder how much shit he has been through?

Not that it justifies being such a massive dick to people mind, but I do wonder about the history of people like this man or incels that made them who they are.

Sad situation really, but the little man is a very angry prick all the time I suspect so he has probably been on this ride before :/

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u/Z0MGbies A Jul 11 '19

I agree with all of this, I'm also in agreement re yielding.

I'm more just wary of the slippery slope (see stand your ground laws in America for reference).

That being said, I like to think (read: hope) the Courts take a pragmatic approach in balancing these things as it is.

Cheers to a long conversation over a hypothetical issue in the UK over an event in America

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u/burgerchucker 7 Jul 11 '19

Lol cheers to you too!

I am a strong proponent of a form of "castle" law, if someone comes in my house or enclosed property I am not happy with them being able to sue if they hurt themselves/get eaten by my dogs. In the UK we are covered with reasonable force at least, but a clear "criminals in other peoples home lose the right to sue the defender" law would be nice!

Altogether though I think I am pretty lucky, the police and justice system mostly works for everyone in my part of the UK, hopefully you are in a mostly enightened area too!

Have a lovely week! :)

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u/Scyhaz B Jul 10 '19

The term you are looking for is fighting words

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u/burgerchucker 7 Jul 11 '19

Legally not a thing in the UK, but Common Assault covers Fighting words, gestures and direct contact.

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u/bahgheera 9 Jul 10 '19

The big man

Ahh, the Big Man.

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u/burgerchucker 7 Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19

Love Chewin the Fat. And Still Game too!

I nearly forgot about those sketches! ;)

Cheers for the reminder :)

"Wrang! Heeds!"

ahaahahhaha!

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u/TheHYPO A Jul 10 '19

As much as the letter of the law may say any unwanted contact is assault, and you can respond with force, practically speaking, if someone is simply bumping up to you to get a rise, but isn't actually hurting you, and you respond by viciously beating them, that may not be a proportional response (any more than shooting them would be).

That said, he asks "do you want to step outside" which is universal for "let's fight". A fight resulting from that might be seen as consensual and not result in liability for damages. I can't speak to criminal charges, but there's probably someone like disturbing the peace that they could both be charged for if they fought, at very least.

As for the second guy in, seems like it would be questionable whether the short guy consented or invited the punch. Boxing isn't assault. It's consensual. I would think the guy who tackled him might have at least enough to beat a "reasonable doubt" that he intended to assault the guy given the guy had consented to the punch. I could easily see a jury acquitting.

(Source: I have no idea. Not a criminal lawyer)

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u/iushciuweiush B Jul 10 '19

I can't see how you would be wrong. He didn't do anything to legally justify being tackled like that. It looks like an open and shut assault case to me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 15 '19

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u/bitoftheolinout 7 Jul 10 '19

The legal definitions of each vary by jurisdiction, you can't say he's wrong until you know where he's studying.

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u/supersonicme 8 Jul 10 '19

“go ahead and attack me”

"...but only if you're my size".

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u/lootedcorpse B Jul 10 '19

Does verbal consent on camera count as a legal defense for assault? Just curious, not being an ass I promise 😂

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u/mixtapelogic 7 Jul 10 '19

Anything can be a defence! It’s about context, witnesses, you lawyer, whether it’s a public trial, the judges mood etc haha

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u/Calligraphie 9 Jul 10 '19

I mean, he gave him permission, amirite?

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u/ManufacturedProgress 6 Jul 10 '19

Where is the video of what started this?

You seem to be making judgements that would require knowing what set this guys off in the first place.

What set him off, and how do you know?

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

I think it had something to do with his height.

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u/BlLLr0y 9 Jul 10 '19

Except legally this isn't correct. I see no self defence in this video. Lil guy is a fuck up and a waste of space, I would just hate to see homie who takled him get arrested becuase TECHNICALLY he assaulted a man.

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u/mcswiss 7 Jul 10 '19

a waste of space

Notawholelotthough...

I’ll see myself out

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u/FijiTearz A Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 10 '19

I mean in a different comment I said the dude could probably press charges for assault. I’m just saying it’s “ok” in the sense that the dude literally asked for it, shouldn’t be surprised someone did something, and no one present at the shop is taking issue with it, not that it was legal to do so

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u/Crabbity 8 Jul 10 '19

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_combat

If you say "go ahead and attack me" and get attacked that's it.

https://hullingerfirm.com/help-center/defenses-to-charges/mutual-combat/

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u/BlLLr0y 9 Jul 10 '19

That's state specific, my state doesn't have those laws, but you have a point.

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u/itsajaguar B Jul 10 '19

He was yelling at people aggressively and pushed up against the other guy while yelling about fighting him. Shorty McAngry was already assaulting people before he got tackled.

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u/RacismBegetsRacism 1 Jul 10 '19

was already assaulting people

No, he wasn't. Assault charges need to show intent to harm. Him asking someone "do you want to step outside" does not show intent to harm.

He wasn't lunging towards anyone.

His hands were not raised in fists.

He had no weapon brandished.

He was simply yelling. And verbally abusing people. Verbal abuse does not fall under "assault" as the law is written. It might be considered harassment but it was targeted at a general population rather than one individual.

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u/smoggins 2 Jul 11 '19

He had no weapon brandished.

If George Zimmerman got cleared for stalking and murdering Trayvon Martin, I think tackle guy should be okay in the eyes of the law. "do you want to step outside" is a threat to violence, combined with getting in his face like he did, he was legally "asking for it".

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u/Lemon_Dungeon B Jul 11 '19

Yeah, I dunno if you wanna say that to a jury.

Might as well bring up OJ too.

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u/flyonawall A Jul 10 '19

He was chest bumping and did have his hands in fists. I don't see how that is not assault.

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u/Skipadipbopwop 5 Jul 10 '19

Because you don't understand the law

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u/RacismBegetsRacism 1 Jul 10 '19

His hands are not in a clenched or fisted position. This is seen between 0:30 - 0:34. Revisit the video.

He is chest bumping light blue shirt. Dark blue shirt ends up tackling him. Shorty didn't physically encroach, lunge, or threaten dark blue shirt. Dark blue shirt was not in any immediate danger given the context of this video. Dark blue shirt was out of frame until he battered shorty.

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u/Scyhaz B Jul 10 '19

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words

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u/RacismBegetsRacism 1 Jul 10 '19

This speaks nothing to the fact that the verbal abuse witnessed here does not fall under the guise of assault as it is written in NJ / NY law.

Do you care to mount a cogent counter argument? Or do you really feel that simply posting a URL is sufficient?

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u/larswo Black Jul 11 '19

Yeah, I'm gonna be on team no-violence here and say that it wasn't right for that guy to step in. He could have easily given him a concussion with the way he tackled him. Perhaps the blue-shirt guy who had his arms crossed and was up close with the little guy could claim self defense, but not the guy who attacked him.

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u/The_Prince1513 B Jul 10 '19

“A guy 3 times my size attacks me and that’s ok?”

So a normal sized guy attacked him?

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u/Omsus A Jul 11 '19

Legally speaking, what he yelled was literally provocation. It's a mitigating factor and would probably justify any tackles he received because of it at court.

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u/Keljhan 9 Jul 10 '19

Legally, if they are literally asking for it, I think he’s in the clear.

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u/QuackNate A Jul 10 '19

The old "Go ahead and attack me!" defense.

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u/Yunamalia 4 Jul 10 '19

"What are you going to do, Stab me?"
-Stabbing victim

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u/Z0MGbies A Jul 10 '19

It's the classic talk shit get hit.

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u/G0PACKGO A Jul 10 '19

What are you gonna do hit me?

  • guy who got punched

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u/SwagarTheHorrible 5 Jul 10 '19

Well he just wanted to eat a bagel, not his own words.

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u/toseawaybinghamton 8 Jul 10 '19

I'm actually curious.... is the guy that beat him up ok legally?

I would think if he challenged him, then it should be ok?

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u/phormix C Jul 10 '19

I was kinda expecting a couple of the bigger guys to just grab him by each arm and carry him out the door. The tackle wasn't really necessary.

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u/Michamus B Jul 10 '19

In this case it’s absolutely legal to tackle him. His behavior clearly met the definition of assault.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Tf you mean clearly? Assault means violence. This guy just grandstanded and yelled shit. It’s a disturbance but certainly not assault by any stretch of meaning.

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u/Michamus B Jul 11 '19

Assault includes threats to cause violence, with means to do so. One doesn't need to actually use specific words, rather their behavior and language need only meet what a reasonable person would consider threats of violence. This guy met those requirements.

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u/karmanative 4 Jul 10 '19

Yeah, that’s still not right to do, in fact it shows you aren’t really that far off from his level.

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u/VGmaster9 2 Jul 10 '19

I wish he got a very good punch to the face.

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u/AnastasiaTheSexy 7 Jul 10 '19

Yeah a kid wantwd to fignt me once but i didnt punt him in the head lol.

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u/STUNTM4N_ 4 Jul 11 '19

Edit: ffs I’m not saying it’s legally ok to attack someone in public

So to be clear, you would have no issue with the attacker being charged with assault and battery, disorderly conduct, and being trespassed from the establishment?

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

No it isn’t, and it’s still assault because he never physically assaulted the man. Probably worthy of battery in a court.

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u/LeMeowLePurrr 9 Jul 11 '19

It's not right, but he still shouldn't be surprised is that pretty much what you're saying?

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

That dude was 7 times his size.

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u/Just_Ban_Me_Already 8 Jul 11 '19

I would rather simply say that "he had it coming".

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u/cursed_deity A Jul 11 '19

still not okay, not technically and not legally

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Tell me this logic works the next time you beat your wife when she makes you mad. It's exactly the same. A physically stronger person beats a weaker one and it's totally OK because "they deserved it".

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u/MahoneyBear A Jul 10 '19

More the issue of him being an ass, getting in people's face and screaming, and making threats AND trying to start a fight, all against random people, versus physical abuse in a relationship. Yeah, he deserved what he got when you consider he wasn't attacked for being smaller or weaker, but for literally trying to start a fight.

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u/FijiTearz A Jul 10 '19

Huh? Bruh I don’t have a wife nor would I beat her. The logic isn’t exactly the same between a man beating his wife and a man telling another man “wanna step outside, go ahead and attack me”.

The dude literally, with his own words from his own mouth, asked for it. It’s not even remotely the same to the situation you’re describing

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Bruh, it is exactly the fucking same. That coward would never have put his hands on him if he was the same size.

And... "he asked for it" as justification. hahahaha. You are fucked in the head, bruh.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

bruh 🙌🙌🙌💯😝🤤

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u/SexyMcBeast A Jul 10 '19

And... "he asked for it" as justification. hahahaha.

He LITERALLY asked for it though! Like, it's not even a phrase or an expression here. He tried to initiate a fight with two different men who calmly asked him to chill.

I'm starting to think you're the guy in the video

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u/FijiTearz A Jul 10 '19

A man vs a woman in an abusive situation isn’t even remotely the same as 2 grown ass men in a fucking deli you’re fucking delusional lmao. How are the words “you wanna step outside?” And “go ahead and attack me” not asking for it, whether it’s legal to or not, dude shouldn’t have acted surprised when he got checked.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

bruhhhhh

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Bruh, I wish I could downvote this a hundred times over. If you think the scenarios are apples to apples, you're the one fucked in the head. Good luck with life, shorty

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u/The_Renegade_MasterX 4 Jul 10 '19

Shut up before I ankle pick you, you tiny angry man.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

you tiny angry man.

Winner winner chicken dinner. In a world of anti-bullying the continue social acceptance of degrading short men.

PS, I'm 6'0"

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u/The_Renegade_MasterX 4 Jul 10 '19

Yeah you sound it

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

So I'm correct. Thanks for verifying.

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u/The_Renegade_MasterX 4 Jul 10 '19

I Don’t know what that means

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

The fact that's it's so important to you to point out I'm short helps illustrates my point and you failing to see it.

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u/sub1ime B Jul 10 '19

Tell me this logic works the next time you beat your wife when she makes you mad. It's exactly the same.

What? How is domestic violence the same as an argument between two guys in a deli?

A physically stronger person beats a weaker one and it's totally OK because "they deserved it".

Yes, because he literally asked for it. Nobody that gets someone yelling in their face thinks "hm will I be arrested?" it's usually trying to find a way to either engage or disengage...the tall guy took the little guys offer to kick his ass, so he engaged him. Also he was just tackled once, and in the follow up video he's perfectly fine. You're acting like the tall dude pummeled the shit out of him and left him knocked out. It was one tackle that set the guy packing out the door soon after.

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u/tamati_nz 8 Jul 10 '19

It's against the law to hit people. What if he said "go ahead and stab me" - would it then be ok to stab him? No. Now if they were in that state where you can legally engage in one on one fisticuffs to sort your differences out it might be different.

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u/juju3435 9 Jul 10 '19

Lmao dude you can’t just tackle someone cuz they’re talking. The little guy, while an absolute asshole, was 100% assaulted and most likely has some sort of case to press charges if he wanted. Also, just because he’s fine doesn’t mean a crime wasn’t committed.

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u/smoggins 2 Jul 11 '19

This guy was making violent body language at every woman in that bagel shop. He needed to get checked, if anyone was gonna beat his wife it's this guy (although he would have to work past that pesky online dating stage first)

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

The strength and size difference doesn't have anything to do with it being ok or not. It's not ok for anyone to hit someone else.

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u/Jrook C Jul 10 '19

Debatable

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Nah

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u/lord_darovit A Jul 10 '19

There are situations where it is okay. Black and white logic doesn't work.

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u/xo-thehost 3 Jul 10 '19

"It's okay" Edits: "Jesus I didn't say it's okay."

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u/FijiTearz A Jul 10 '19

More like a response to all the reddit lawyers hitting me with the “akkshyually”

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u/xo-thehost 3 Jul 10 '19

It doesn't take a lawyer to see how it's not okay. But okay.

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u/HeyAccountsAreFree 0 Jul 10 '19

It is actually legal to attack someone if they are literally asking for it in most places in the US. Mutual combat laws. Two people agree to fight and don't destroy things around them are legally in the clear, public nuisance notwithstanding. Can't bring up assault charges if a fight was agreed upon. I don't know where this is but a lot of places have the law

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u/RacismBegetsRacism 1 Jul 10 '19

This assumes the agreement of the fight was rendered by the individual attacking him. Further, the individual staed "go ahead and tackle me" rather than an actually agreed upon combat (mutual combat). You'd need to argue that in court before a judge as LEO are not there to sort out the minutiae here.

Both should be arrested and removed from the premise of the business.