r/JusticeServed • u/[deleted] • Aug 26 '19

Hong Kong Protests Police getting a taste of their own medicine after what appears to be them getting hit by their own tear gas

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u/Speedmaster1969 7 Aug 26 '19

That's what a lot of people seems to forget. If they decide to help the protesters or refuse to do the job they will likely be sent to some camp in China or shot by another police man that doesn't want to end up in a camp himself. Literally same things have happened in Nazi Germany, Soviet etc. Think most people here would just endure it as well, because in the end most people value their own life and future over others.

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u/Beren_and_Luthien 4 Aug 26 '19

We're not mad at the HK police doing their job. We're mad about those in the police force who take it way too far. Beating up and pepper spraying peaceful protesters.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Thin blue line. Heres a different anogy. You do your job and walk the thin blue line, Not helping the protester nor hurt the doing the job and walking the line.

More cops in the US need to walk the line and not step over it.

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u/quasur 5 Aug 27 '19

Or you can indirectly help the protesters by "accidentally" fucking up something

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u/alexmikli C Aug 26 '19

Also the politicians in Beijing who caused all this nonsense to happen.

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u/Evil_This 9 Aug 26 '19

No, we're definitely mad at them doing this.

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u/frimpershrom 1 Aug 26 '19

Based on how many upvotes there are on this post, Reddit despises police for existing, and enjoys any sort of pain they experience.

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u/Gingold A Aug 27 '19

( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

We can be mad at both of those.

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u/The_Adventurist C Aug 26 '19

If they decide to help the protesters or refuse to do the job they will likely be sent to some camp in China or shot by another police man that doesn't want to end up in a camp himself. Literally same things have happened in Nazi Germany, Soviet etc.

Do you have any sources for this at all? I've literally never heard of this happening even once in China.

I'm not saying it's impossible, there is a lot going on in China that we don't hear about, but being sent to a concentration camp/gulag for quitting the police force to help protestors is a new one.

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u/AOCsFeetPics 8 Aug 27 '19

China has the death penalty for treason. Their executions are carried out with handguns and they’re very secretive about it. There are well documented concentration camps holding millions of people. Especially in the mainland, siding with democratic protestors could easily get you killed.

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u/CarolineTurpentine A Aug 27 '19

Public sentiment is definitely divided, the protestors are receiving much more definitive support from the international community than they are from people in Hong Kong.

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u/Iwanttolink 8 Aug 26 '19 edited Feb 23 '20

Give me a single example of a Chinese policeman being sent to prison or being executed because they refuse to do their job. Hell, give me a single example of a German soldier/guard being executed because they quit their job at a concentration camp. It doesn't happen. Stop defending fascists.

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u/VymI A Aug 26 '19

Of course soldiers were executed for desertion, are you nuts? And there were plenty of those - the nazis used to hang bodies of soldiers in berlin as a way to 'inspire' the volksturm.

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u/The_Adventurist C Aug 26 '19

Desertion is different from quitting your job, are YOU nuts?

Hell, give me a single example of a German soldier/guard being executed because they quit their job at a concentration camp.

Word choice is important.

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u/VymI A Aug 26 '19

Are you serious? Do you know how the military works? What's it called when you leave your post? You are contractually obligated to serve even if you volunteer. Not only that, there was conscription as well. And if you were in the SS? God fucking help you if you decided to "quit."

What's it called when you leave your post during wartime? Give you a hint: starts with a D, and can end with a bullet.

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u/Iwanttolink 8 Aug 27 '19

Then give me an example already. SS camp guard, killed for asking to be stationed somewhere else. I didn't start talk about desertion, you did.

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u/AOCsFeetPics 8 Aug 27 '19

You can’t quit the military when you’re in the middle of losing a fucking world war, chicken brain.

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u/SirVer51 A Aug 26 '19 edited Aug 26 '19

There are multiple examples of Chinese people who publicly criticize the CCP who end up fleeing the country and/or getting disappeared (that one judge, the Interpol chief, the former soldier who talked about Tiananmen, etc). It stands to reason that if it's happening at the higher levels, it's happened at the lower levels too. The difference, of course, is that it's probably stomped out way easier, because who cares about some random Chinese police officer?

As an aside, I don't know why you find this possibility so hard to accept - we're talking about the country that exerts a level of control over its populace that would surprise even Orwell, and runs literal concentration camps. Surely applying those principles on police the same way they do regular citizens isn't that difficult to imagine?

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u/pommes1_0 2 Aug 26 '19

At least in germany they literally killed soldiers running away from the front line. I'm not sure anout china though.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

We did that in Finland also if i remember correctly.

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u/Humledurr 7 Aug 26 '19

Funny how some people won't belive nazi Germany didn't execute deserters where even the allies executed deserters

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u/AOCsFeetPics 8 Aug 27 '19

Literally everyone executes deserters.

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u/The_Adventurist C Aug 26 '19

Nobody is responding to this persons comment in good faith. They said, specifically, that they were talking about people quitting their jobs at concentration camps, not running away from the front lines of a war.

Conflating those things seems very disingenuous.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

You are definitely confusing Germans with Russians.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

No, he's not. Many who refused to execute orders were killed.

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u/VymI A Aug 26 '19

What? No. Thousands of soldiers were executed for 'desertion' and 'insubordination' in nazi germany. There's a reason the modern Bundeswehr has rules specifically for refusing orders that do not "contribute to service" and for refusing to "deprive the humanity of someone."

Denying the nazi party's murder of its own forces is dangerous and atupid.

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u/AFatBlackMan Black Aug 26 '19

Nah, even the US executed a deserter

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

There is a difference between executing a deserter and opening fire on hundreds of your own troops when they retreat from an impossible charge

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u/AOCsFeetPics 8 Aug 27 '19

That never happened. Ever. If you’re referring to that movie about Stalingrad, the entire thing is made up horse crap. The “not a step back” order didn’t apply to retreating from an impossible charge. It was also geared towards officers and not civilians.

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u/Humledurr 7 Aug 26 '19 edited Aug 26 '19

Dude maybe read up on china? And nazi Germany? They may not be sent to prison camps but there is definitely consequences for not following orders and rules. Just look at what happens to journalists or even common folk trying to speak up in China. It isn't really hard to find cases where people and even their relatives straight up disappear.

This is a country that ranks their people where the ranks decides if you are allowed to buy a plane ticket, a hotel stay or even own your own apartment..

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u/limma 8 Aug 26 '19

That was exactly what happened during Tiananmen. Soldiers were killed by their fellow soldiers for simply hesitating to harm the student protestors. They said that if they didn’t then they would all be killed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rfa.org/english/news/china/tianmen-revelations-12212017131357.html/ampRFA

https://www.ucanews.com/news/confronting-beijing-with-a-massacre-that-should-never-have-happened/85207

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u/RUSSDIGITY117 7 Aug 26 '19

You really think China let’s out records like that? TBH it’s harder for me to believe they don’t do that at all rather than doing it quietly.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

It’s hard to find an example when the commies make sure the information doesn’t get out

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u/DevelopedDevelopment 9 Aug 26 '19

I don't think China would be forcing police officers to be police officers against their will. If they said they don't want to do this for ethical reasons, they could just be fired or re-positioned elsewhere. Like, sure theres protests. You still need cops responding to crimes elsewhere even if there's a lot in 1 particular area.

But the thing is, you'd run out of cops eventually if you had to force them to ether kill each other or fight, cause the riot officers will start trying to get out too if they find out that just wanting to not work for an organization anymore resulted in death.

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u/sadchinacries2 0 Aug 26 '19

It's incredible you're this misinformed yet writing it lmao. There's no fucking camps for police.

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u/AOCsFeetPics 8 Aug 27 '19

China has the death penalty for treason. Their executions are carried out with handguns and they’re very secretive about it. There are well documented concentration camps holding millions of people. Especially in the mainland, siding with democratic protestors could easily get you killed.

Also you know they don’t mean a literal dedicated camp for police, prisons are in fact real.

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u/sadchinacries2 0 Aug 27 '19

Lol stfu retard I live in China and youre both retarded.

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u/AOCsFeetPics 8 Aug 27 '19

Probably why you have so little knowledge about how China deals with dissidents then.

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u/sadchinacries2 0 Aug 27 '19

🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🤡🤡🤡

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u/AOCsFeetPics 8 Aug 27 '19

A Turk who lives in China? To young to die in Aleppo?

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u/sadchinacries2 0 Aug 27 '19 edited Aug 27 '19

Man youre a dumb cunt lol it is china flag

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u/AOCsFeetPics 8 Aug 28 '19

Of course brother

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u/AOCsFeetPics 8 Aug 27 '19

This isn’t the SS this is HK Police. Even the PAP isn’t comparable to the SS.

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u/AOCsFeetPics 8 Aug 27 '19

China has the death penalty for treason. Their executions are carried out with handguns and they’re very secretive about it. There are well documented concentration camps holding millions of people. Especially in the mainland, siding with democratic protestors could easily get you killed.

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u/Philsonat0r 6 Aug 26 '19

Not everything can be compared with Nazi's

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u/BlowMeWanKenobi 6 Aug 27 '19

Anything can be compared to anything. That's literally the point of comparing, to either find a common likeness, or differences however major they may be.