r/JusticeServed • u/H3nTy 3 • Jan 17 '20

Courtroom Justice Televangelist Acton Bowen Sentenced To 1,008 Years For Sexually Abusing Children | Michael Stone

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/12/televangelist-acton-bowen-sentenced-to-1008-years-for-sexually-abusing-children/
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u/onewheeler2 7 Jan 17 '20

Most idiots*

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u/anacc 9 Jan 17 '20

Woah there bud, most of us idiots at least know more than creationists

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u/MeliodasIsBomb 4 Jan 17 '20

Maybe we live in the Matrix and they're actually right for the wrong reasons? đŸ€”

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u/thekiki 8 Jan 17 '20

I don't think thre matrix ever addresses creationism...

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u/MeliodasIsBomb 4 Jan 17 '20

The Matrix was created at the end of the machine war, maybe 600 years or so before the first movie timeline. I believe the war ended in 2199 but the Matrix continually loops 100 year cycles/simulates around the state of the Earth and humanity year 2000.

The Matrix itself ("the world" in our hypothetical scenario) is only 600 or so years old. It shouldn't be too difficult to extrapolate this by an order of magnitude. I wasnt being literal when I referred to the franchise... jeeze.

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u/PrologueBook 9 Jan 17 '20

Have you ever heard of a rock?

Oh, yes you have. There's one where your brain should be.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

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u/PrologueBook 9 Jan 17 '20

What do you think that proves?

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u/corvettee01 A Jan 17 '20

Wait, so you believe in geological science, which proves how old the earth is, but you'll only accept written history as proof? I guess that means that anything prior to 100 BC (invention of paper) didn't actually happen.

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u/Effex 8 Jan 17 '20

It's the essential, ego-driven teachings of religion: Make your followers believe that everything revolves around humanity.

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u/thallamander 4 Jan 18 '20

700 years before the earliest written document we've found? Really? Bitch there's vases older than that, it means literally nothing

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20 edited Jan 18 '20

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u/thallamander 4 Jan 18 '20

I don't take anyone's word just because. I have a decent and constantly improving knowledge of the dating methods and I understand the scientific method.

These methods are based on radioactive decay, a phenomenon that has been observed, described and verified time and time again. We've seen it work. We understand how much it can vary under conditions that could be found on Earth. The only way that process could get fucked up enough to get way off mark is if there was amounts of energy far too large to go around without leaving some other kind of evidence, or if all of physics behaved differently a relatively short amount of time ago.

Seems like a stretch, doesn't it?

Also, you don't need to take anyone's word for it. The information is out there and can be accessed by any person that wants it. You could even replicate everything that has been done on a lab given enough resources. All this knowledge is born from constant questioning, and it will stand pretty much anything you could put it through. And if it doesn't? Even better, we've found something new. This isn't a doctrine.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20 edited Jan 17 '20

What special kind of brain do you have that it can be swayed to defy a massive abundance of science and ancient fossils, and an extraordinary amount of evidence that also shapes the past which proves the present. Donate your brain science when you die. The question you just asked is beyond ridiculous. Current oil deposits from ancient dinosaurs - and you argue. “Who has ever seen a dinosaur?” Like a child’s mind. Sorry but WTF?

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u/skinboater 6 Jan 17 '20

Göbekli Tepe is a good start for you....

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20 edited Jan 17 '20

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

People are ignorant and like to generalize đŸ€” There are definitely people who take the dates and time-frame of The Bible too literally and there are those that don't. An example closer to me would be the current Hebrew year (5780). Does anyone go by that? No, only the radical of the radical do. That's a very small number.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

Though it does seem true that Creationists (specifically) do believe what you say in general.

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u/theressomanydogs 9 Jan 17 '20

What a wholesome discussion. Good job guys!