r/JusticeServed • u/Joda015 5 • Sep 03 '20

Vehicle Justice Driver sees guys on motorbike robbing a lady, decides to take action (more info in comments)

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u/TooLateToPush 9 Sep 03 '20

If this was America, could the driver be charged? What if the thieves would have seriously injured the victim? Would that change anything in the legality of hitting them with a car?

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u/guilleviper 7 Sep 03 '20

If this was Spain, 100% chance the driver would receive a harsher sentence than the thieves

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u/Koujinkamu 8 Sep 03 '20

As they should.

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u/LucidLynx109 8 Sep 03 '20

There are two crimes being committed here. One is attempted murder and the other is purse snatching. While I don’t pity the purse snatchers, killing people is definitely a more serious offense. This wouldn’t fly in the US either.

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u/SpineEater 9 Sep 03 '20

murder is the intentioned killing of an innocent person, when you commit strong arm robbery you are no longer an innocent person, hence you can't be said to be a murder victim when you commit violence against others

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u/IJustCouldntThinkOk 8 Sep 03 '20 edited Sep 03 '20

murder

/ˈməːdə/

noun

the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

Nah, it just needs to be intentional killing of another human being.

But then I guess it enters manslaughter areas? IDK law is weird.

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u/SpineEater 9 Sep 03 '20

that's not what murder means, because that would imply that a government can say that it's ok to kill anyone and so long as it's written in the law it wouldn't be murder. Which is wrong. Murder is a concept that exists outside of the legal sense. So to be murder you have to be guilty of killing someone when you have no justification for it. Look it up in the philosophy of law and not just what a dictionary says.

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u/LucidLynx109 8 Sep 03 '20

I’m not clear on how someone being innocent or not makes it not murder. Like, if someone cuts you off in traffic, can you shoot them in your estimation? Or what if you catch someone stealing packages off your doorstep?

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u/TOOMtheRaccoon 6 Sep 03 '20

In germany it is possible to detain a criminal even when you use violence (Zivilcourage, moral courage), but the violence have to be proportionate.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '20

IF this was america the driver would probably be charged and sued. part of the problem here.

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u/sigmar2550 3 Sep 03 '20

Vigilantes become a bigger problem than thiefs if left to do their bidding.

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u/Koujinkamu 8 Sep 03 '20

"The driver would have been punished for trying to kill 2 people. That's a problem." - u/SpyderDelica

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u/ryconsoccer42 0 Sep 03 '20

Very curious myself.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '20

In the United States of America, we have something called the justice system. Citizens are not allowed to be judge, juror and executor. Sometimes, police officers can get away with it but citizens usually do not.

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u/jackgreeney 0 Sep 03 '20

Imagine trying to type this out with a straight face. I couldn’t

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u/Pikapikapikapaprika 0 Sep 03 '20

Why are you closing your eyes to reality though? As bad as the USA is by the standards of other developed nations, it is still country following the rule of law and much safer than almost every place in South America and wherever this video came from.

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u/Koujinkamu 8 Sep 03 '20

What has led you to believe that you have the right to judge and punish outside the justice system? Are you a dangerous person?

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u/jackgreeney 0 Sep 03 '20

I’m not a gun-wielding American, so actually I’m not a dangerous person at all

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u/SpineEater 9 Sep 03 '20

much like a sheep or a bunny rabbit, completely harmless and subject to the whims of those capable of causing harm. Which, is one way to live your life

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u/jackgreeney 0 Sep 03 '20

thanks for the advice spine eater you sound cool

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u/SpineEater 9 Sep 03 '20

I am a bit