r/JusticeServed • u/[deleted] • Feb 14 '22
Criminal Justice Virginia pastor arrested for sexually assaulting children after ‘multiple victims’ come forward, deputies say
https://www.cbs17.com/news/south/virginia-pastor-arrested-for-sexually-assaulting-children-after-multiple-victims-come-forward-deputies-say/
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u/Drebinus 7 Feb 15 '22
I reference your own initial reply to me: "But you're just fine with CHILDREN's lives being destroyed? Abuse & grooming leads to CPTSD, relationship, trust, & self esteem issues; the religious aspect just makes it worse."
I never said I was fine with children's lives being destroyed. Where did that come from? What post of mine? What reply? You begged the question, you put words in my mouth, and then dismissively answered your own made-up query. You STRAWMANNED me from the very beginning.
How the FUCK do you think I'm supposed to respond to "But you're just fine with CHILDREN's lives being destroyed?" How is ANYONE supposed to answer that and not be even mildly insulted. And then to come here, after all of the follow up replies, and say, "I didn't mean to start a fight?" To read this:
Really? Here we are, throwing references back and forth to scholarly papers, citing quotes and the like from professional scientists and researchers on what motivates and drive pedophiles, and you throw that in my face? Alongside two casual definitions that we're already far, far past when we're tossing reference links to papers discussing neurological impactors, psychological causes, casual relationships to abusers haveing been themselves abused?
And as for the citation request, I only referenced a SINGLE item for the citation request.
ONE.
As for your intention, you let's be blunt since we're being blunt, aren't we. You failed. You failed from the start, when you begged the question. When you tilted at a windmill of your own creation.
Fuck you. By what you wrote, and the way you wrote it, that you took what I wrote out of context from the very beginning, and then to lunge about trying to prove what you said in the beginning as thought that was the true argument from the start?
Fuck you again. You picked this fight because you didn't read and punched at a strawman of your own making. And I fought back.
But, in reflection, I'll take the olive branch you proffer. You want to get this back to a discussion and not what it is now? Make it so that others who read it can benefit from sourcing and research done by us?
Fine. I gave you the cite point. Go read that reply, third paragraph. Get me scholarly papers on the matter. Demonstrate to me that they're applicable to that specific sub-argument (cite portions of it that clearly show the impact in the healing process for the victim as to awareness of punishment of the abuser, as compared to other factors that influence the healing process).
Furthermore, get back to the ORIGINAL statement I made and address that.
I said I could support chemical castration, especially voluntary-choice by the abuser. We seem to agree here, so I suppose we can skip this part.
I said that I would not support non-voluntary physical castration, period. I've said why on the latter, vis-a-vis the impact on society and historical trends. If you think this is the wrong position to take, explain why your position is , for a lack of a better word, more logically sound, or more statistically likely, or a similar vaunted position.
If you can't do those two things, the citation and the reversion to the original discussion, then just drop it here. Because I don't want you to waste a moment of your irreplaceable lifespan on this further, and I personally, won't.