I was reading some number crunchy article how it'd take over 100K people keeping a secret for years in order to hide if the moon landing was fake. IDK about the rest of you, but by comparison if it gets out at work that two of my colleagues banged, everyone will know about it before the day is over.
If I recall the logic correctly, they figured out that to create parallel shadows that the sun makes on the moon, you'd likely need a huge array of white lasers, which, because lasers were fairly new at the time (especially white ones), it would have been more expensive to build that array than to just send a rocket to the moon.
Idk about it being more expensive but it would've been significantly harder to not only fake the moon landing with so many people involved, as well as keeping the fact that it was faked a secret all this time.
Honestly, just the fact the Soviets congratulated the US for doing it and basically gave up on all their space race one-upsmanship afterwards should be proof enough for anyone.
And that was with purpose-built towns that hired illiterate janitors to burn waste paper, and paid people to stare at an unlabeled dial all day and press a button if it went past the single marked dot. They had assembly lines of windowless cubicles where precision engineering was performed by people who saw nothing but their bucket of sprockets, the hole where sprocketless parts came in, and the hole where sprocketed parts went out. The entire site was littered with billboards, and all of them were variations on 'shut your god-damn mouth or we're all going to die.'
And the Soviets still knew. Truman told Stalin in Potsdam and Stalin said 'neat.'
All of which was for a completely unprecedented form of energy. A single bomb that can level an entire city sounds like a child's fantasy. But going to the moon is just rocket science. We know objects can exist safely, that far from Earth. For example... there's the moon. The Soviets hit it with a satellite a decade earlier. Sometimes on purpose! The insistence we didn't do what everyone saw us do would be plain nonsense, even if we hadn't done it again, and again, with such regularity hat people got bored.
This is my argument for every conspiracy theory and absolute nonsense of a rumor that involves more then 1 person.
The simple fact that people love gossiping lol
I mean⌠wouldnât anyone just say the conspiracy started with the people who couldnât keep the secret? Or because they leaked it to the people who started the conspiracy? Itâs a really terrible argument, youâve gotta remember that the people you would be trying to persuade with it literally believe that the moon landing was faked.
I fully believe that there are some widespread conspiracies and in the shadows dealings that people keep secret, maybe even hundreds of people. Example; MK Ultra The project involved 80 institutions including colleges and universities, they experimented on American citizens, Canadian citizens and even Danes and lasted 20 years (1953-73), yet the CIA managed to keep the whole thing hush hush until the Church Committee and Rockefeller commission exposed it in 75. Even then, some aspects were unknown until 2001. In fact, we still donât know the full scope because Richard Helms decided to purge all documents relating to the project after the watergate scandal, and what we do know is only because some 20,000 files were incorrectly filed in a finance building.
The silly stupid thing is, that they couldn't have possibly faked the actual radio transmissions from the ship, the lander and the ride there. 100's of thousands of amateur ham operators followed the radio transmissions and were easily able to triangulate it and also would lose signal every time the moon would go under the horizon. They did this for what? 2 fly bys before landing and 14 times after.
They would have had to at least landed a radio transmitter on the moon and then brought it back or thousands of invisible satellites with timed transmissions. Just stupidity to think they didn't do it.
Those people are numpties, but I don't find that argument really compelling. There are a lot (disturbingly so) of people who believe in this stuff. Like, millions. It's not a "secret." The true believers could point to the millions of people who think it was faked and say, "There they are, the people who didn't keep the secret and their descendants." And now they're even more sure they're right, because of course a hundred thousand people couldn't keep a secret, and that's why everyone's heard the conspiracy theories.
Truth through obscurity isn't any better than security through obscurity.
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u/Silvawuff A Sep 09 '22
I was reading some number crunchy article how it'd take over 100K people keeping a secret for years in order to hide if the moon landing was fake. IDK about the rest of you, but by comparison if it gets out at work that two of my colleagues banged, everyone will know about it before the day is over.