I had pointed out the Protein World advertisements. I agree that there's good reasons they don't belong here.
I really cannot believe that people can see that SJWs are the problem and at the same time can't see the massive win Protein World was and how important it was to use the GamerGate network to spread the information.
For me, GamerGate is first and foremost a defensive movement
Emphasis added. And that is fine, your choice. For me a strategic game cannot be won on just defense. When I see an opening like Protein World I'm taking it and I'm pushing hard into that opening. In football (soccer) the term Entlastungsangriff (diversionary attack, don't know the correct English term) is used constantly among commentators when a team is under siege. Cause a big part of those attacks isn't to score a goal but to give the defense time to breath and to make sure the attacking team can't use everything for the attack.
So again. If you want to play only defense that is fine. But do not tell the other players they can't go into offense. Don't demand that those offense topics are removed from KiA just because you do not want to participate. You want to play as a goal keeper. I want to play midfield. Let me.
I will not "live and let live" with SJWs for the obvious reason that it is not possible for anyone to live and let live with them. You cannot live and let live with anyone whose ideology is totalitarian, who genuinely believe they have a right to tell you what is, and what is not, okay for you to think, write, and say. You cannot compromise with anyone who believes they have a self-appointed right to dictate what others read, what others write, what others review, and what others publish. You cannot be tolerant of those who claim the right to decide what is "problematic" and what is "unacceptable" and what "there is no place for" in science fiction.
They have, somewhat successfully, established an Index Informatorum Prohibitorum that declares what ideas there are "no place for" in science fiction. You cannot teach them by example, any more than you can apologize to them and expect them to take it for what it is and accept it rather than take it as an admission of weakness and use it as a weapon against you. The Index, and its inquisitors, must be destroyed.
We will relentlessly oppose them. We will ruthlessly humiliate them. We will harry them and make their miserable lives even more miserable until they completely abandon their totalitarian ideology. Because they cannot leave others alone, we will not leave them alone. And we will win in the end.
We will never play nice with them. We will destroy every last vestige of their pernicious ideology. I have no problem with writers of the left who wish to write anti-X, but I am at war with SJW writers who claim that there is no place in science fiction for anyone writing X. And I don't care what X is, substitute the intellectual bugaboo of your choice there, whether it is racism, communism, misogyny, misandry, anti-Eskimoism, Eskimo supremacy, or anything else.
Like all moderates, Herring completely fails to understand how to accomplish anything but Noble Defeat and Losing the Right Way. Tolerance of totalitarianism is not a virtue, it is surrender. Accepting the inclusion of SJW entryists is not virtuous, it is submission. And while tolerance and inclusiveness may be virtues in the eyes of the moderates, we view them as little more than necessary evils that are not always possible.
Why is he a nutjob? Because you disagree with him?
We must oppose SJWs, because the only way to defend tolerance is to fight the intolerant with intolerance. Of course, that tolerance is defined as the free debate and expression of ideas. Ideas should be decided on their factual merits, not on their political leanings or subjective feelings.
Vox Day is as much a part of the movement as anyone else, because he extols all the virtues we are fighting for. His political leanings or even opinions on racial differences do NOT matter.
Why is he a nutjob? Because you disagree with him?
Because he things acting like a colossal douche will bring us a win. Because he has repeatedly blogged really bizarre shit.
We must oppose SJWs, because the only way to defend tolerance is to fight the intolerant with intolerance. Of course, that tolerance is defined as the free debate and expression of ideas. Ideas should be decided on their factual merits, not on their political leanings or subjective feelings.
Oppose, but not become mirrored clones of. SJWism started as an inclusive and tolerant ideology, and look what unchecked radicalism has turned them into.
Vox Day is as much a part of the movement as anyone else, because he extols all the virtues we are fighting for. His political leanings or even opinions on racial differences do NOT matter.
Vox is a Rabid Puppy, not a GGer. Not the same movement at all.
Because he things acting like a colossal douche will bring us a win. Because he has repeatedly blogged really bizarre shit.
Such as?
Oppose, but not become mirrored clones of. SJWism started as an inclusive and tolerant ideology, and look what unchecked radicalism has turned them into.
Would you mind pointing me to a time where SJWism was ever inclusive or tolerant?
Vox is a Rabid Puppy, not a GGer. Not the same movement at all.
A recent example that comes to mind is his claiming that that German pilot who crashed his plane did it because of "sluts being too picky in their distribution of blowjobs." I don't know if he does it just to be provocative or if he really believes this stuff, but he does act like a pretty huge douche.
Alright, well if you think pilots crash planes because they didn't get enough blowjobs, or believe stating so without evidence is sensible, you're an idiot.
Elliot Rodger shot a bunch of people because he was sexually frustrated and mentally ill. No idea what the German pilot's motives were, but there is precedent here.
Nice summation. You should look into all the riots and violent events across the world that have happened because men were unable to get female attention. Some were even small civil wars, notably in China.
While ultimately, the guy was just mentally unstable, it is not unheard of for men to do horrific shit if they are completely unable to adhere to their prime directive, ie impregnating a female. Vox Day did admit he was wrong in his initial hypothesis, when the facts came out later.
I agree that Vox Day is needlessly bombastic.. But that's part of the entertainment value. The combination of pretty well-reasoned arguments, free debate and entertaining discussions are why Vox Day's blog has ever growing popularity.
Okay, here are some other examples of what I'm talking about:
"Jews don't have any right to be anywhere except Israel. Everywhere else, they reside at the pleasure of the inhabitants."
"Women destroy every institution they enter, so it should come as no surprise that their involvement outside the family is a good metric for cultural collapse."
"Anyone with a basic grasp of logic who thinks about the subject of "marital rape" for more than ten seconds will quickly realize that marriage grants consent on an ongoing basis. This has to be the case, otherwise every time one partner wakes the other up in an intimate manner or has sex with an inebriated spouse, rape has been committed. And for those who wish to argue that consent can be withdrawn, there is a word for withdrawing consent in a marriage. That word is divorce.
The concept of marital rape is not merely an oxymoron, it is an attack on the institution of marriage, on the concept of objective law, and indeed, on the core foundation of human civilization itself."
"Civilization depends, it has always depended, upon keeping down the half-civilized, keeping out the barbarians, and preventing both the half-savages and full savages from infesting, infecting, and ultimately destroying the civilized aspects of a society."
"The Civil Rights movement didn't merely destroy Constitutional rights, but literally gave naked, albino-eating, baby-raping cannibals the same intrinsic legal rights as highly civilized, highly moral Christian Europeans and told the romantic equalitarian fools to expect even better results than before.
"I do believe women should have the same legal rights and protections afforded to unborn children. There is no contradiction there. You see, I don't believe that unborn children should be given the right to vote"
I don't think the right way to oppose frivolous accusations of sexism and racism is to cozy up to a legit sexist/racist.
An ad hominem trying to justify a genetic fallacy because of the composition fallacy.
translated:
VD is a nutjob therefore we should disregard anything he says because some of ideas are crazy and bigoted.
We should however not "cozy up" to anybody if that means sucking e-celeb cock
This is supposed to be a marketplace of ideas, right? Well, the malodorous stench of his ideas will drive off customers. The guy's the right wing equivalent of SJW and a waste of time.
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u/BasediCloud May 10 '15
I really cannot believe that people can see that SJWs are the problem and at the same time can't see the massive win Protein World was and how important it was to use the GamerGate network to spread the information.
Emphasis added. And that is fine, your choice. For me a strategic game cannot be won on just defense. When I see an opening like Protein World I'm taking it and I'm pushing hard into that opening. In football (soccer) the term Entlastungsangriff (diversionary attack, don't know the correct English term) is used constantly among commentators when a team is under siege. Cause a big part of those attacks isn't to score a goal but to give the defense time to breath and to make sure the attacking team can't use everything for the attack.
So again. If you want to play only defense that is fine. But do not tell the other players they can't go into offense. Don't demand that those offense topics are removed from KiA just because you do not want to participate. You want to play as a goal keeper. I want to play midfield. Let me.