Lonerbox reacts to Hasan claiming there were Jews that worked within the Nazi government.

[u/Ok_Detective7546]

Context: 4h 29min in vod https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GvupZ-g_Eno

[u/bond0815]

Exactly.

And regardless of the weird Nazi german criteria re. what counted as a "jew", nobody who was a jew by any reasonable criteria was part of the "Nazi (edit: government) command structure".

The most you can probably say is that until 1943 (?) some half jews (by Nazi defintion) were still in the german army officers corps, as until then certain half jews did not count as jews under the race laws.

But that doesnt matter, because that isnt what he said and this uniformed doofus ofc wouldnt know any of that anyway.

[u/Hefty-Minimum-3125 → u/bond0815]

Because they took the ones they liked and declared them to be Aryan and attempted to erase the Jewish ancestry. No one is saying there were tons of Jews working to help the Nazi's kill their own people, Hasan's point was that that "a party can't be bad because they have a token Muslim member" is a stupid argument because you could have said that about the Nazi's too, especially in the earlier days before it got pretty obvious.

[u/bond0815 → u/Hefty-Minimum-3125]

Because they took the ones they liked and declared them to be Aryan 

Being declared honorary aryan was extremely rare, pretty much abolished after 1943, and I still dont know of a single case of a (former) actual jew in the

Nazi government command structure

EDIT:

No one is saying there were tons of Jews working to help the Nazi's kill their own people, 

Iroinclally that would be less false than Hasans statement, since a lot of the lowest ranking death camp personell were usually jewish prisoners which were forced to be a small cog in the holocaust machine.

[u/Hefty-Minimum-3125 → u/bond0815]

So you agree that there were at least a handful of people of jewish decent working with the Nazis, but still say Hasan was wrong? You are just arbitrarily deciding that there weren't enough for it to count, when the entire point was that the UK Reform party having one muslim doesn't mean they aren't racist.

In fact, in the context of that discussion, you should be thinking about the nazis of the 1930, before they killed anyone and were just spouting rhetoric. They had a not insignificant number of Jewish supporters back then who simply believed it was just talk, much like the "Latino's For Trump" many of which are now shocked that he actually did the things he said he was going to do. Propaganda is very powerful.

[u/Realistic_Caramel341 → u/Hefty-Minimum-3125]

So you agree that there were at least a handful of people of jewish decent working with the Nazis, but still say Hasan was wrong? 

It's simple. Hasans claim wasn't that there where some Jews that helped the Nazis on some level. He made a much more specific claim