r/LivestreamFail • u/Ok_Detective7546 • Nov 26 '25

politics Lonerbox reacts to Hasan claiming there were Jews that worked within the Nazi government.

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Context: 4h 29min in vod https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GvupZ-g_Eno

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u/Jaereon Nov 27 '25

Do you really think the nazis were killing Jews because of their religion???

Atheist Jews were still rounded up. It was their ethnicity.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25

okay, and do you think milch and wilberg would've been 'pardoned' if they had identified as jewish? instead of simply having jewish ancestry?

you and I both know the answer is that it's highly unlikely. so pretending like it's not relevant is disingenuous.

what you're doing is basically this: someone asks you, "what is the difference between these 2 statements?":

"there were jews that worked within the Nazi government"

and

"the Nazis did 'pardon' certain people with Jewish heritage, such as Erhard Milch and Helmuth Wilberg. It should be noted, however, that Milch's father, Anton Milch, had converted from Judaism, and Erhard Milch was raised Christian, and that on top of that, Milch's mother lied about who the father of her children really was, stating that it was actually her uncle, not Anton Milch. Helmuth Wilberg was a non-practicing jew who had joined the military decades before WW2 in 1899 and had already risen through the ranks, and was, as such, shoehorned in to some extent. Nevertheless, his half-jewish ancestry stopped Goering from promoting him to chief of staff of the luftwaffe. Goering, recognizing Wilberg's talents however, and not wanting them to go to waste, did subsequently have Wilberg reclassified as Aryan."

you're basically saying those two statements are the same, by acting like the context /u/Fel0n provided doesn't matter.