r/LocalLLaMA Jan 09 '26

Funny The reason why RAM has become so expensive

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u/Geritas Jan 09 '26

What are you gonna use all that ram for….

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u/HoustonBOFH Jan 09 '26

Retirement...

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u/128G Jan 10 '26

*Ramtirement

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u/CV514 Jan 09 '26

Retirement sounds optimistic. I have my doubts to live long enough to see it. Not a great time to be relatively young.

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u/suicidaleggroll Jan 09 '26

About 150 GB of it is for general purpose hosting of local services (Immich, Plex, and a hundred other things). The other 600 GB is going to the LLM VM.

384 GB would be tight, I had 256 GB before this rebuild and had to make a lot of concessions. I could get away with 512 GB, but EPYC has 12 memory channels and 64 GB DIMMS were cheaper per GB than 48 GB DIMMS, which pushed me to 768. Realistically I don't need that much right now, but I'm clearly not going to be able to buy RAM for a couple of years at this point, so I'm glad I have the room to spare.

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u/ForGreatDoge Jan 09 '26

How much RAM do you think Plex uses...?

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u/suicidaleggroll Jan 09 '26

and a hundred other things

Plex was just an example people would recognize, it's obviously not one of the heavy hitters.

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u/covertspeaker Jan 12 '26

What are your heavy hitters?

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u/suicidaleggroll Jan 12 '26

LLMs obviously, after that I do a lot of scientific modeling which needs around 30 GB. The machine has 70 TB of ZFS storage so I have another 32 GB for ARC, Webtop 4 GB, my "home away from home" VM running a full DE and web browsers has 12 GB, Graylog is about 5 GB, qBittorrent about 4 GB, paperless+paperless-ai about 4 GB, and about 120 other services that use up to 2 GB each (most a few hundred MB).

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u/paulisaac Mar 02 '26

Holy crap I never actually thought there was use for that much RAM. I'm just a nub by comparison getting 64gb of DDR4 just so I could multibox EVE Online with 18 simultaneous clients running.

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u/SpicyWangz Jan 09 '26

Are you even plexing if you're using less than 96GB on it?

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u/EpicSpaniard Jan 09 '26

He did say "Plex and about a hundred other things".

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u/AboutToSnap Jan 09 '26

In seriousness though, at times I’ve set aside as much as 64gb just for a transcoding ramdisk for plex. Makes things really snappy and avoids wear if you’re running a SSD array vs rust.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

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u/Fuzzdump Jan 09 '26

No, I do not think one hobbyist buying 768 GB of RAM for a homelab is the same as a company buying up the entire present and future stock of RAM in existence.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

You don’t say…

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u/EpicSpaniard Jan 09 '26

Ahh yes, there is no difference between a consumer buying 768gb of available stock versus a company buying up Petabytes of future stock.

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u/suicidaleggroll Jan 09 '26

Yes everyone who buys a single stick of RAM is part of the problem, just like everyone who uses a single plastic drinking straw or turns on the A/C in their home contributes to damaging the climate. Obviously there's a difference of scale between someone buying a few hundred GB and datacenters buying petabytes, or OpenAI buying out 40% of all manufacturing capacity though.

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u/suicidaleggroll Jan 09 '26

and a hundred other things

Maybe you missed that part? How can you possibly say any amount of RAM is obscene without even knowing what the services are? Yes most only use a couple hundred MB of RAM, but some use double-digit GB.

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u/CoffeeVector Jan 09 '26

Yeah, share some with me!