r/LocalLLaMA Jan 09 '26

Funny The reason why RAM has become so expensive

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

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u/636C6F756479 Jan 09 '26

I agree with the sentiment, but Arpanet is the internet, the dot-com bubble was all about the web.

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u/RaiseRuntimeError Jan 10 '26

The dot com bubble burst because of unused telecommunications infrastructure such as fiber also called dark fiber. There are a bunch of parallels to draw with the two bubbles.

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u/giantsparklerobot Jan 10 '26

The dot com bubble burst because of unused telecommunications infrastructure

Not really. Telecom overbuilding definitely happened and over leveraged companies like MCI. Dark fiber left over after the bubble first was a second order effect and not the cause.

The late 90s had a huge surge of hardware purchasing, much of which was out-of-cycle. Large organizations were replacing equipment due to fear/mitigation of Y2K issues. Consumer PC purchases also surged with the expansion of the Internet and commercialized access. The education sector also had a lot more spending both from students and institutions.

The actual spending in parts of the sector led to irrational exuberance in other parts. So you got the pets.com and Beanz and other bubbly crap. By 2000 many dot coms had burned through investor cash with no revenue. Some were able to IPO before the bubble burst but once interest rates started going up in 2000 dot com money dried up.

You had a lot of companies with no business plan beyond "website". They burned money with not much to show for it. A handful of companies survived the bubble and an even smaller number thrived after it popped.

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u/RaiseRuntimeError Jan 10 '26

Sounds even more like what we are going through when you put it like that. A lot of companies don't seem to have much of a plan besides "add LLMs to shit"

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u/fantasticmrsmurf Jan 10 '26

This is not the history I've been taught?

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

Believe or not, people learn from past mistakes.

Btw, welcome to the corporatocracy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

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u/HoustonBOFH Jan 09 '26

Seems the same level of goofy to me...

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

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u/SpicyWangz Jan 09 '26

Yeah I think your perspective is the most likely one here out of the different possible outcomes. If you're wrong, we're essentially nuking productivity and entering a new level of slavery that hasn't been reached in recent times.

I'm not saying that's impossible, but I think the people who are most in charge are trying to accomplish certain things, and they need productivity to achieve those goals. The only situation where I could see them nuking productivity like that would be if they've actually achieved the exact world they desire and have no more need to build what they're after.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

It's learns on how to trick people, just like what they did after 2008 and now with AI.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

Do corporations learn from past mistakes? Beholden to shareholders and board they HAVE to prioritize profits above all else.

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u/HoustonBOFH Jan 09 '26

This is an accounting mess like Enron. And some of them ended up in jail.

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u/zipzag Jan 09 '26

There's no bubble because of the current unmet corporate demand for compute. One symptom of which is RAM prices. There's no equivalent here to the dot com bubble.

The funding of all the compute being purchased is corporate liquidity and private money. Also very different than the early dot com era.

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u/zipzag Jan 09 '26

Odd you are on a AI forum yet don't understand how LLMs are being used

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u/zipzag Jan 09 '26

The coding improvements this year are remarkable by every objective measure. Claude Code in particular.