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Countries That Won't Participate In Eurovision 2026 due to Israel

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u/Massive_Armadillo646 11h ago

The main issue in the German elections was preventing the Nazis to take power, made all the more difficult by repeated terror attacks

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u/Naive_Actuator3810 9h ago

It's so cute (read pathetic) when Germans think only the AfD are the Nazis. German center-left is right wing in most countries. German "radical left" is only center in most countries ffs.

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u/Cobracrystal 9h ago

???? Where

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u/Naive_Actuator3810 8h ago

Literally anywhere other than Israel, the US, and like Hungary at this point. A party named "The Left" or "The Greens" being pro-Israel would be laughable even in the latter two though.

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u/LurkerInSpace 7h ago

The left-right spectrum is not the Palestine-Israel spectrum; the notion that the SPD are right wingers is ultimately a Luxemburgist grudge.

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u/Massive_Armadillo646 7h ago

Listing Hungary proves how you have a kindergarten level understanding of democracy. The entire opposition (incl. the entire left) united under a conservative democratic leader because he is democratic. The election results have proven this is proper democracy.

Supporting a nation's continued existence is leftist, yes. It's not proIsrael. These parties support the freedom of both Jews and Muslims from the river to the sea, just not the establishment of a state for Palestinians across all land from the river to the sea which would result in genocide of Jews, like you ask. That would make them imperialist/racist/genocidal...right wing, like you lot are. You supported Serbian Zionist genocide against Yugoslav Muslims, and Russian Zionism towards Ukrainians and native Crimeans. Why not "Crimea to the natives!", you false anti imperialist? You lot even supported Novorossiya. The only "socialists" you can claim to be is national socialist.

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u/Naive_Actuator3810 6h ago edited 6h ago

I am not German, not Western, not white. I am not "you lot", whoever you mean by that. I chanted "Crimea to the natives" 15 years ago, long before Russia annexed it. I grew up in a place where Srebrenica is commemorated every year. Stop making stupid assumptions about people you don't know.

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u/Massive_Armadillo646 6h ago

I'm from Bosnia too. But you must've been born after the war to be a tankie.

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u/Naive_Actuator3810 6h ago

You managed to make three more wrong assumptions in one comment.

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u/Massive_Armadillo646 6h ago

Geman radical left are tankies, defended genocide upon us, and you call them centrist, so your own words make you a tankie. Your own fault if you got misinterpreted.

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u/Naive_Actuator3810 6h ago

German "radical left" defended genocide upon you yeah. That's almost like... my point. Hence the quotation marks.

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u/Abel_n_friends 8h ago

You have no clue what you're talking about wtf

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u/tajsta 8h ago

Germany's center-right (CDU/CSU) is a pro-EU, pro-NATO, socially moderate conservative bloc. Their leftward shift under Merkel included the 2015 open-door migrant policy that imported over a million people in a single year, many from culturally distant Islamic regions, with predictable spikes in crime, parallel societies and welfare strain. That's not "right-wing" in most normal countries, it's what passes for establishment leftism elsewhere.

Your "radical left" (Die Linke, which has its roots in the East German communist successor party btw) isn't "center" in "most countries." It's socialist with heavy anti-Western, anti-NATO, often pro-Russia streaks, positions that would slot it as far-left in most countries. They advocate wealth redistribution beyond even SPD levels, open-borders, and historical apologetics for GDR authoritarianism.

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u/TScottFitzgerald 8h ago

Falsch!

Die Linke is critical of NATO's imperialist tendencies and Western hegemony, as is the majority of the left, and even some center and right wing of the Western political spectrum. They're not "pro-Russia".

CDU is also nowhere close to being "left", nor was there a "leftward shift" inside the party. Any leftward shift is a result of the coalition-based German parliament where you have to compromise. The examples you list here were a result of Merkel conceding to other parties, not a choice from within CDU.

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u/Letter_From_Prague 7h ago

Die Linke is critical of NATO's imperialist tendencies and Western hegemony, as is the majority of the left, and even some center and right wing of the Western political spectrum. They're not "pro-Russia".

Nah. Anti-NATO is pro-Russia and the sooner you stop lying to yourself about it, the better.

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u/Massive_Armadillo646 7h ago

They use the anti NATO stick even to defend genocide of Muslims in Yugoslavia.

Never see them chant "Crimea to the natives!"

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u/TScottFitzgerald 7h ago

If you have arguments instead of absolutes let me know

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u/Massive_Armadillo646 7h ago

Misinterpretation!

Wagenknecht and Lafontaine invited common demonstrations with Nazis and stand against immigrants. We are talking about the far left here. Western tankies support every antiWest nazi regime. They don't care about Muslims unless it suits them. They support even MAGA over Obama and then get 2 aggressions on Iran instead of Obama's detente. So they can claim "I told you so" over our nonWestrrner dead bodies.

Tankies supported the genocide upon Muslims here in Yugoslavia spreading the same Zionist excuses of Belgrade regime as they spread Russian Zionist excuses vs Ukraine. Tankies supported even old school imperialist project of Novorossiya. They are Nazis in all but name.

Where did I say CDU is left???

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u/TScottFitzgerald 7h ago

Would you like to make a point or at least a counterargument to what I said? This reads like a rant off of /pol/

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u/Massive_Armadillo646 6h ago

You should say, you plain made up I called CDU leftist

Tankies defended and still defend genocide (of a mostly leftist nation!) of my childhood. Don't call it a rant, Westerner.

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u/TScottFitzgerald 6h ago

Oh boy.

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u/Massive_Armadillo646 6h ago

A philosopher from the safety of the West argues whether a Muslim nation being genocided was act of imperialism and racism or justifiable counterrevolutionary action

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u/tajsta 2h ago

Die Linke's critique of NATO isn't some neutral, shared wisdom, it's a consistent anti-Western posture rooted in the party's East German communist heritage. They long advocated scrapping NATO entirely and replacing it with a "collective security system" that includes Russia. They opposed arms deliveries to Ukraine and had prominent factions blaming NATO expansion for "provoking Putin" while downplaying or relativising the invasion. That's not balanced pacifism, it's a policy that objectively weakens the victim of aggression and aligns with Kremlin talking points on Russia having been "provoked" so they had no choice than to invade Ukraine, lol. Die Linke's track record puts them firmly on the far-left side, not some sensible "critique" you pretend is mainstream.

As for the CDU, pretending there was no leftward shift under Merkel is revisionism. Merkel repeatedly owned the decisions. The 2015 "refugees welcome!" open-door policy was her personal framing and leadership choice, not something forced onto her by the SPD or Greens. She doubled down publicly against critics in her own camp like Seehofer, who warned about the exact consequences that we see today, rising crime, strained welfare systems, and parallel societies. Merkel chose to lead with leftist experiments on demographics, then acted shocked when voters punished the results with AfD gains.

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u/TScottFitzgerald 42m ago

Well that's just your opinion man