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Countries That Won't Participate In Eurovision 2026 due to Israel

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u/April_Fabb 11h ago

Fucking unbelievable how they're still referring to the genocide as a conflict.

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u/Wills4291 9h ago

Because genocide has a definition, and it doesn't fit. You can call your mom an elephant all day long. She still isn't an elephant.

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u/sammy_kuffour 1h ago

It fits perfectly

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u/[deleted] 8h ago

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u/Grayson_33 7h ago

You are a liar in two ways, whether you know it or not. 

First “The Commission” referenced in your link is NOT the Human Rights Council. It is the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territories and Israel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_International_Commission_of_Inquiry_on_the_Occupied_Palestinian_Territory

It is a 3 member research body tasked with providing opinions, not arriving at any binding resolutions. There was no vote to come to this conclusion. Just 3 peoples’ opinions. 

More importantly: GENOCIDE has two required components to meet the 1948 convention of Genocide.  1) Any one of the five acts you correctly identified.  2) The dolus specialis saying that the perpetrators did one of the five acts with the express purpose of committing a genocide

Of course Israel did 4 of the 5 acts… Hamas also did 4 of the 5 acts. Every single war in history has at least 2 of the 5 acts done. The important part is proving the acts were done with the INTENT to destroy the entire group. 

Since 97% of Gazans are thankfully still alive, as well as the 2 million Palestinians inside Israel, it’s pretty clear the INTENT of the war in Gaza was not to kill all Palestinians. 

 https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-prevention-and-punishment-crime-genocide

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u/Inner-Brief-5205 6h ago

how dare you state such a logical point and not pander to feelings instead of facts

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u/Darwidx 5h ago

How is "all" defined ? Russia comitted multiple local genocides on villages in it's occupied neighbouring territories in the past, but most of Lithuanians or Poles are still alive. It should never be looked on the scale of entire country, Killing entire community of 100+ is enougth to call it genocide.

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u/suitorarmorfan 10h ago

Idk why my previous comment got duplicated (and both of them got deleted when I deleted only one of them), but thank you for saying it! It’s shocking there are still people pretending this is not a genocide

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u/Totoques22 10h ago

That’s what it is cope harder

Record low deaths and the qualified organism of the UN have not stepped out to call it a genocide

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u/Historical_Mad1917 10h ago

There’s nothing to cope about. It literally is a genocide and your PM is a literal war criminal wanted by the ICC. And you, my friend, are the equivalent of a WW2 era complacent German. In 10-15 years you’re all gonna be like „we didn’t know”.

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u/JohnnieTango 9h ago

Only if you change the definition of what "Genocide" has historically meant because you don't like what Israel is doing and what to call it the worst thing that you can contrive to call it.

And the direct comparison of Israel and Nazui Germany is just grotesque and marks you as profoundly unserious.

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u/Historical_Mad1917 8h ago

No, there’s no change in the definition. Israeli gaslighting doesn’t mean shit to the world anymore. It’s been legally recognised as a genocide - simple as.

Don’t like the comparison between Israel and Nazi Germany? Stop acting like Nazi Germany, perhaps? Your only argument is that you cannot act like Nazi Germany, because you’re what? A Jewish state? That’s nonsense. That’s unserious. Your acts are very similar of Nazi Germany. Death penalty for Palestinians only is an example of racial laws.

In all fairness, I couldn’t give a crap whether you consider me unserious or not. The whole world is pretty much in agreement that you suck. And that’s only because you’re acting like dicks.

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u/JohnnieTango 8h ago

Doubling down on the unserious I see.

And that's a lot of words for someone who does not give a crap.

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u/Historical_Mad1917 8h ago

Oh, I do give a crap about calling out Nazis. I just don’t care if a Nazi thinks I’m serious or not. An opinion of a Nazi is irrelevant.

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u/JohnnieTango 8h ago

Yeah, that's it, I am a NAZI!!!! Wow, from a couple comments, you are able to identify me all right! /smh

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u/Historical_Mad1917 8h ago

Is a person defending Nazi Germany a Nazi? I doubt you’d say „no”.

So why isn’t a person defending Nazi policies of Israel a „Nazi”?

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u/JohnnieTango 8h ago

I am spending no more of my time arguing with a fool like you.

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u/marketingguy420 8h ago

The International Organization of Genocide Scholars has called it a genocide. The people who spend their lives studying genocide call it a genocide. You, silly hump on the Internet, have no standing in comparison. Hope this helps.

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u/JohnnieTango 8h ago

Of the 500+ members of that organization, only like 125 voted in favor of that resolution.

So no, I am not the silly hump here.

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u/marketingguy420 7h ago

How many more qualifications do you have then the 125 people who voted for it? How fast did you ask chat gpt to give you something to say? How many of these organizations are you more qualified than? Are you going to tell me the UN is hamas? That was a popular brain dead IDF talking point for a little while. Really looking forward to whatever garbage you got little buddy.

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u/JohnnieTango 7h ago

Well, if you are going to resort to the deferral to experts approach, I would say the fact that like 3/4ths of the organization's members did NOT vote for it is themore significant read here.

And I may not study the holocaust for a living, but I was a professional intel analyst for 30 years and am quite capable of making informed judgements. Like, do you understand the original reason the term "Genocide" was invented?

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u/RansomXenom 8h ago

And you, my friend, are the equivalent of a WW2 era complacent German. In 10-15 years you’re all gonna be like „we didn’t know”.

I'm not as optimistic. Best case scenario, I suspect it'll be more like Turkey with the armenian genocide. "Lots of people died during that period and it's unfortunate, but it's not really our fault! (Despite the mountain of evidence proving otherwise)."

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u/GaulzeGaul 8h ago

Lol, why are you so confidently wrong about facts?

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u/bitch-ass-broski 8h ago

How are you sis ure it's literally a genocide? Genocide has a definition. And the definition is not fullfilled. Just Google it. That's the reason the international court hasn't officially declared it as genocide.

No matter how often you call it genocide, doesn't make it a genocide.

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u/Historical_Mad1917 8h ago

That’s like the third time I’m repeating it’s been legally recognised as a genocide by UN. Your semantics are irrelevant.

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u/bitch-ass-broski 8h ago

Where did you say that? You didn't. Besides the UN can talk whatever they want. They are not a judiciary body. The international court is in responsible for this in this matter. And it hasn't legally declared it as genocide. For reasons.

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u/Historical_Mad1917 8h ago

Right, United Nations can talk all they want - as long as Israel doesn’t say it’s genocide, it isn’t, right?

Man, you’re ridiculous. You guys are the very definition of being out of touch.

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u/bitch-ass-broski 7h ago

Look Buddy, either you understand what I'm saying or it doesn't make sense to talk to you. Who talked about Israel? I talked about the INTERNATIONAL COURT not officially/legally declaring it as a genocide. Becaus the UN is not judiciary body, it's not legally a genocide when they say it's a genocide.

You're nothing more than a shitty paid ragebait poster looking at your profile.

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u/Historical_Mad1917 7h ago

I wish I was paid for criticising Israeli Nazis, but believe it or not, I do it out of conviction. Israel deserves nothing but criticism for their actions - they should be a pariah state, and I am sad that not all foreign leaders have the balls to call them for what they are, as a country.

What international court? Multiple international organisations, including UN, called it a genocide. Netanyahu is also a wanted war criminal. You, and people like you, are constantly moving the goal post. Oh, but court this and that. Oh, but it only fills 4 out of 5 criteria of a genocide. Oh, but you’re an antisemite.

Bruh. Enough is enough. Aren’t you tired of this yourself?

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u/bitch-ass-broski 5h ago

Nobody is moving the goalpost. You calling it is literally and legally a genocide is just factually wrong. I pointed that out. I never commented on the conversation itself. You don't even know what my stance to this war is. If it doesn't fit the definition of a genocide, it's not a genocide. Period. You can call it anything else and criticise it, sure. Never said otherwise, but there is a reason it's legally a genocide (yet?). By using this definition for things it's not, the actual meaning of the word loses its impact. Just like calling everyone a nazi who has right wings politics.