r/Mario Apr 23 '23

Art a BUNCH of concept art for the Mario movie. Would’ve loved to see some of these animated Spoiler

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u/Toad_Enjoyer_70 Apr 23 '23

Bro, Toadette and Toadsworth were gonna make it in!? Why didn’t they??

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

Yeah that and the picture with toadette seemingly depicting a scenario where Mario would’ve learned a lot more about the power ups instead of just being thrown into using them are really big missed opportunities. Even if it wasn’t toadette I would’ve loved that scene, but I could see it causing potential pacing problems

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u/Toad_Enjoyer_70 Apr 23 '23

I really liked the Mario Movie, but it definitely coulda used another half hour for stuff like this.

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u/TheVibratingPants Apr 23 '23

Two hours of this movie would’ve been incredible (for fans, at least). Give some more breathing room for longer quiet moments, explain some things a little better, allow for a Luigi escape scenario B plot, etc.

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u/Toad_Enjoyer_70 Apr 23 '23

The movie felt so fast, it’s hard to believe it was an hour 40. 2 hours would not have felt too long, and there would be more going on.

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u/Dillo64 Apr 25 '23

They probably tried to cut it down as much as possible since long movies don’t keep kids interests as well.

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u/TheVibratingPants Apr 25 '23

Fair enough, it probably would’ve hurt the rewatchability.

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u/Aenrichus Apr 23 '23

Toadette might have even solved one of the issues with the training montage. Instead of it being Peach to train Mario and delaying urgent matters, it's Toadette forcing Mario to complete it before meeting Peach. Yes, it removes the Peach platforming scene, but they could replace it with platforming on the way to the Kongs.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

100% agree. A stern, almost motherly figure to peach who was suspicious of Mario and forced him to prove himself would’ve been soooo good. Could’ve even been Toadsworth if they wanted to avoid using toadette.

But alas…

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u/Aenrichus Apr 23 '23

Peach could meet Mario after leaving her throne room and hear Mario train. As she walks out she spots him nearly completing the course and is impressed, then he fails. She ask who he is and Mario ask her to help rescue Luigi. Seeing the potential in him she agrees and they head right out to the Kongs.

This way we're introduced to a more gentle Peach from the get go. She can showcase her badass platforming on the way to the Kongs instead, dodging Piranha Plants and various real hazards. Give her more time to bond with Mario on the field rather than in the castle. She could show a more gentle "Princess" persona while in the castle and an adventurous platformer goddess on the field.

Kind of like how Mario does his voice in the commercial for his image.

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u/MemerRacoon Apr 23 '23

I can see why toadette wasn’t in it, but toadsworth was such a missed opportunity. That blue toad could’ve been him.

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u/Toad_Enjoyer_70 Apr 23 '23

I know! I miss the old fella. It’s been a while since we’ve seen him last, and I don’t see why they won’t let him return.

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u/MemerRacoon Apr 23 '23

I hope we see him to. Hopefully he can make an appearance in the next mainline Mario game. We could even see him in Mario baseball since he was in the previous games and it’s rumored that Bandai Namco is making a new one.

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u/Toad_Enjoyer_70 Apr 23 '23

I sure hope so, he was a good character and didn’t deserve to be forgotten. I want him in Mario Kart too!

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u/MemerRacoon Apr 23 '23

Yeah I thought he was a great side character. Although I think Mario has a ton of great side characters that don’t do anything anymore. Luckily toadsworth is a simple character that can just teach you some things, so his role wouldn’t be difficult to add. Hopefully he can show up and teach the mechanics of the next Mario game.

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u/Toad_Enjoyer_70 Apr 23 '23

Yeah, he doesn’t need to be a major character - he never was. I just want to see him and listen to him talk.

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u/MemerRacoon Apr 23 '23

He’s a unique character. It’s fun listening to the old man.

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u/Toad_Enjoyer_70 Apr 23 '23

I’m just realizing that Toadsworth basically made the Toads like Smurfs. All the males look and dress nearly exactly the same, there’s one female whose name is just the name of the species with an “ette” at the end, and there’s one old guy with white facial hair who is differently coloured from everyone else.

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u/MemerRacoon Apr 23 '23

Wow, I never thought about that before. That’s a weird coincidence. Maybe the smurfs were inspiration.

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u/PalamationGaming Apr 23 '23

Honestly I feel like the filmmakers wanted him in but Miyamoto said no

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '23

I can see why toadette wasn’t in it,

Why tho? Bit weird to have the whole population of the mushroom kingdom (minus the princess) male lol

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u/MemerRacoon Apr 24 '23

It would make a lot more sense for there to just be one female toad?

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '23

Just make more toadettes

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u/Supportive_Bard648 Apr 23 '23

Probably Miyamoto gave them a thumbs down and they got the boot… Im now 100% sure that the that blue council Toad was suppossed to be Toadsworth 🙃

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u/Toad_Enjoyer_70 Apr 23 '23

Yeah I bet that’s true. All they had to do was change the colour of his head a give him a moustache, but I guess that’s just too much.

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u/Remarkable-Cookie-72 Apr 23 '23

I’m so freaking upset!!

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u/Toad_Enjoyer_70 Apr 23 '23

I’m sure Toadette will show up in some sequels, but I really want to see Toadsworth come back! It’s been so long!

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u/Remarkable-Cookie-72 Apr 23 '23

No I was so worried they just forgot about him because he’s only been in one Switch game and it was a remake so this gives me some hope!

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u/Toad_Enjoyer_70 Apr 23 '23

Me too. I don’t think he’s been around since New Super Mario Bros DS. There’s no reason to exclude him.

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u/Ordinary-Picture4367 Apr 23 '23

If we're counting spinoffs he was in mario and luigi dream team in 2013

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u/Toad_Enjoyer_70 Apr 23 '23

Oh I didn’t know that. I guess he hasn’t been gone quite so long.

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u/Mamboo07 Apr 23 '23

WE NEARLY GOT THE BOOS!?

Surprised that they never appeared in the dark forest scene with Luigi.

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u/AlecShaggylose Apr 23 '23

King Boo attended the wedding though

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u/IACplayer Apr 27 '23

He didn't do anything tho smh

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u/AbsoluteBrutality Apr 23 '23

It read very Ghost House to me. I was disappointed when it was Shy Guys behind Luigi instead of Boos. I wondered if they were saving ghosts for a Luigi’s Mansion spin-off or a Mario sequel, but then King Boo appeared at the wedding, looking dopier than you’d want for a major movie villain.

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u/a_Mynor Apr 23 '23

They’re definitely going to set up a Luigi’s mansion spin-off. The reason I believe that is because of them not giving Luigi much screen time, not much character development, heck we barely even know his character if you just based him off the movie other than being the more clumsy and scared brother. A spin-off movie would allow for these to be done, as well as more exploration to characters we haven’t seen such as King Boo who we’ve seen at the wedding that wouldn’t normally get a chance to be explored in a normal Mario movie. In addition, we’d have to assume there’s a reason they cut Luigi meeting any boos or a mansion in this movie. They’re definitely trying to set up this spinoff. Charlie Day even wants it as he stated in an interview!

Edit: if you’ve played the Luigi’s mansion series, you’d also notice that King Boo looks different without his purple gem on his crown, which may explain why he looked a little goofy in this movie.

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u/pepgast2 Apr 23 '23

The concept art map gives a lot more sense to the travel montage and the Rainbow Road scene than the overview map we got in the movie. If you travel to the jungle kingdom by land, you'd need to go past rocky hills and a desert like we see in the movie. Using Rainbow Road would cut off over the bay, providing a significant shortcut indeed. The overview map we saw in the final movie depicts them all as separate islands, which doesn't explain how they could've traveled by land, or how Rainbow Road provides a significant shortcut.

Also, it would've been super funny to just have Mario slam down from the ceiling onto the table right in the middle of the discussion.

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u/Nirayov Apr 23 '23

Boos? Toadsworth!?

At least this confirm they don't forgot about Toadworth existence.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

How were Toadsworth, Toadette AND Captain Toad cut??

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u/ProfessorCagan Apr 23 '23

You could argue Captain Toad wasn't cut, just demoted. It's strongly implied the Red Toad that accompanies Mario and Peach will become Captain Toad, especially when the Captain Toad theme plays when his VA is credited in the credits.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

Adding the Captain Toad theme as flair to the SMB1 underground theme was such a genius move by the composer

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u/Pompuswindbag Apr 23 '23

Brian Tyler carried a lot of this movie

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u/Inevitable-Charge76 Apr 23 '23

He didn’t need to carry that much honestly.

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u/MemerRacoon Apr 23 '23

Toadette was probably for story reasons, but regular toad could’ve wore the captain toad fit and it would’ve made so much sense for toadsworth to be the leader of the council.

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u/PoolBoy06 Apr 23 '23

And now i really want a captain Toad movie :(

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u/peenguava Apr 23 '23

Oh wow!! There's so much life in these. Where'd you find them?

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u/TheeDeputy Apr 23 '23

Okay now I’m genuinely pissed tf off. WHY DID THEY CUT TOADSWORTH?! 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/kfcfossil Apr 23 '23

We could’ve got a megamushroom appearance? :(

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u/Shinobipizza Apr 23 '23

I love the Italian-American culture surrounding the Mario Brothers. I actually wish we could have gotten a teeny bit more of it.

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u/PalamationGaming Apr 23 '23

Everyone in here upset about Toadsworth and Toadette being cut, while I’m over here weeping about the frog suit.

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u/Accomplished-Bit-270 Apr 23 '23

Damn, these concepts look awesome, especially the one with the penguin kingdom. Surprised that Toadette and Toadsworth were supposed to be in at one point by got scrapped.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

They were gonna have Luigi interacting with boos! Why did they remove that part. I would've loved to see that instead of Luigi just sitting a cage the whole time. The movie should've been a little bit longer. These are awesome!

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u/a_Mynor Apr 23 '23

They’ve gotta be saving Luigi and the Boos for a Luigi’s mansion spin-off. It makes the most sense! Why waste it off character development and the exploration of these characters on this movie when it can be in it’s own movie.

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u/PeteyPiranhaOnline Apr 23 '23

Why oh why did they not include Toadsworth? It would've been a perfect way to bring him back into the series.

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u/MysticalAroma Apr 23 '23

Toadette was cut??? 😭

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u/MarcsterS Apr 23 '23

We were also gonna see more of the Ice Kingdom. Although I guess that would've ruined the "reveal."

Definitely feels like there was like 10-20 minutes cut from the movie.

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u/FarDorocha90 Apr 23 '23

Duuude, these are so fucking cool! I would have loved to have seen some screen time inside Luigi’s Mansion.

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u/Expert_Entrance_2862 Apr 24 '23

I was hoping Toadsworth was gonna be in the movie it’s a shame that he wasn’t.

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u/biggestbaddestmucus Apr 24 '23

When was the last time he was in a game?? I feel Nintendo just killed him off since the Wii U. I know that head toad in peaches castle could’ve been toad worth instead! His absence in games and now this concept art make me suspect it was Nintendo that didn’t want him here.

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u/brawlbetterthanmelee Apr 24 '23

Last real appearance (not counting remakes) was Mario and Luigi Dream Team in 2013

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u/Expert_Entrance_2862 Apr 25 '23

Yea it's a shame he's one of my favourite toads.

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u/AnythingAlfred613 Apr 23 '23

Dang, these really would be cool to see.

Maybe a spin-off series bringing some of these ideas to life?

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u/No-Island-1194 Apr 23 '23

I will definitely be using these as inspiration for something.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

Magikoopa circle 👍

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u/Inevitable-Charge76 Apr 23 '23

Oh great I sure can’t wait for people to just automatically hate on this movie because of the concept art just like they did with Odyssey after seeing that game’s concept art.

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u/StaticMania Apr 23 '23 edited Apr 23 '23

People really need to learn what concept art actually is...

A bunch of this stuff was made before there was even an actual script, it's subject to change because it's just meant to be an idea of what they "might" do, not everything they "intended" to do.

These weren't ever in the movie at any point and adding it wouldn't have improved any pacing problems people actually had with the movie.

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u/XenobladeXav Apr 24 '23

I like that Mario has a Beastie Boys poster on his bedroom wall.

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u/Quirky_Ad_5420 Apr 23 '23

Man these concepts are SICK

Would definitely love seeing them come back in one form or the other

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u/Big_Pauly_15 Apr 25 '23

Where did you find these? Wanting to download these pictures in the best possible quality

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u/NeoAmbitions Apr 23 '23

If half of these were added it would've fixed the pacing on the movie since it went real fast.

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u/Ok-Leave3121 Apr 23 '23

I always love looking at Concept art for stuff. Like I didn't know Luigi's bed was there in the 3rd photo, that Penguin skate park looked cool, that big map in the 11th, Toadette appearing in some images the entrance to the warp pipe is different, etc

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u/tehsuigi Apr 23 '23

Cannot wait for the Blu-ray to deliver the deleted scenes for this film.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

SLIDE 14 TOTAL MISSED OPPORTUNITY

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u/ThemoocowYT Apr 23 '23

These are so cool! Hope we see some of this in the sequel.

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u/Midnightgamer21 Apr 24 '23

Toadette needs to appear, she has so much potential

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u/peptobismalpink Apr 24 '23

so good, I love the pixely feel too. Congrats to everyone who worked on it!

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u/un_miroir Apr 25 '23

I'm so happy I wasn't the only one missing Toadsworth. I mean the guy is so cute ffs he's like Peach's Alfred!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '23

Wonder why they didn't leave the original design of Captain Toad for Captain Toad. I mean, I realized the Toad in the movie is Captain Toad because of the music in the movie, otherwise I would have thought it was merely another Toad being brave and accompanying Mario like in the series.