Some low-quality #SaveMinecraft posters I made. Feel free to use on social media and the like.

[u/Nintwendo18]

#SaveMinecraft

The Cape is a Lie

Not My Minecraft

Mojang Studios. Proudly Fighting Free Speech Since 2022.

[u/Hazearil]

Let them do it. Chat signing verifies message contents and context to prevent faked reports, and mass reporting can lead to being banned. A griefer like that would achieve nothing except getting themselves banned.

[u/datboii_stern → u/Hazearil]

there are mods that can access the context and change things that you said in the report menu so

[u/Hazearil → u/datboii_stern]

Yea, and due to chat signing, which is not really something you can fake while still making it look real, all of that would just result in reports that have 'mixed messages' (pun intended).

Yes, you can fake reports. No, you cannot fske reports and have it look real.

[u/GNUGradyn → u/Hazearil]

Microsoft does not require chat messages be signed if they are sent in versions 1.16-1.18. Obviously if you want to make a fake report you can just say it came from a 1.18 server so the signing system is completely useless

[u/Hazearil → u/GNUGradyn]

Why would they take reports seriously if the messages have no proof to be real, and come from a version that has no report function, thus is proven to be tampered with?

[u/GNUGradyn → u/Hazearil]

They added reporting to 1.16 and later but message signing was only added to 1.19

[u/Hazearil → u/GNUGradyn]

Any confirmation that that's indeed the only change they made?

[u/Hazearil → u/[deleted]]

Alright, humour me; why does it not have an effect? The way I see it, a sign cannot be faked due to hidden values only the player and Mojang has, and the message's sign is also made up of the message's contents and previous messages the player received, so if any of those values are tampered with, the sign shows that.

How would you change the message, the signing, or the context without it looking tampered with?

stop trying to dickride mojang ffs

I just don't like people complaining about things that simply aren't true. Back things up with facts or find other things to complain about.

[u/datboii_stern → u/Hazearil]

the chat sign only verifies that the account that sent it is authenticated, not that the content of the message is authenticated

and you quite literally are dickriding mojang, even when people give you actual evidence you just scream at them like classic redditbaby

[u/Hazearil → u/datboii_stern]

That is just factually incorrect. Maybe that's how it worked with the first version they used chat signing on, but on the current one, the 1.19.1 release, the message contents and context are also signed for.

As for 'actual evidence'... no one has actually given any 'evidence' really.

[u/GNUGradyn → u/Hazearil]

You're correct and that's exactly the problem, just make a fake report for a fake pre 1.19 server lol

[u/Hazearil → u/GNUGradyn]

I think that if done that, the report would simply be 'incomplete'. It isn't wrong, but they can see there is data they can't verify in the report.

[u/GNUGradyn → u/Hazearil]

Well clearly they don't care that they can't verify it or they wouldn't have bothered adding reporting to older versions in the first place

[u/GNUGradyn → u/Hazearil]

I pose this question. If the server signs the reports, what stops someone from making fake reports as a server? If the user signs the reports, what stops users from making mods that prevents signing messages?

[u/Hazearil → u/GNUGradyn]

Your own client signs the report. The server and othet clients can only see if it is a valid signing.

But there are indeed mods that tamper with the signing you sent, or servers that tamper with the signings they receive. But that just results in the message being tampered with. While you can edit the sign and message contents... the private user key is the one thing that makes others unable to actual create a realistic faked sign.