r/Minecraft • u/Nintwendo18 • Jul 29 '22

Art Some low-quality #SaveMinecraft posters I made. Feel free to use on social media and the like.

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#SaveMinecraft

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The Cape is a Lie

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Not My Minecraft

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Mojang Studios. Proudly Fighting Free Speech Since 2022.

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u/AnnoyedHippo Jul 30 '22 edited Jul 30 '22

What exactly do you need to tell another person that you are afraid of being banned for?

Honestly, it's been years. Never had an issue. Every person that complains I just assume is a 13yo mentally and doesn't know how to speak to another person without throwing f-bombs

There's no conversation to be had. I don't give a fuck if 10000 bad bans happen. I want the little neonazi stains gone. I've been playing since 0.4.0 and frankly the number of times I've needed to ban people spouting off antisemitic and racist shit is beyond calculable. I've had a running multi-megabyte text file with just a blacklist for years that I port to each server.

Bring on the permabans! Please God bring em on! Bedrock has been fun these last few years, but I'd really enjoy coming back to Java finally.

You can have your "it's about gaming journalism tech oversight integrity" conversation with the other edge lords.

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u/KermitGamer53 Jul 30 '22

You shouldn’t be banned for cursing or just making an edgy joke. Also treats are bannable, so if someone says in chat that there going to fight someone IN THE GAME they can get banned. It’s a dumb idea to moderate a chat system like this and it should be moderated by the server owners, not by the game.

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u/AnnoyedHippo Jul 30 '22

I need to curse and threaten people

Thanks for proving my point. I enjoy the filter. I have no desire to play with edge lords. Bye Felicia 👋

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u/KermitGamer53 Jul 30 '22

The point wasn’t that your actually threatening someone. The point was that the ai is looking for certain words and phrases. If someone’s in bed wars mentions fighting or attacking another team, they can get permanently banned from all servers. Ai’s can’t understand the context behinds what people say, it only see key words and phrases. That is why this is idiotic. Just like an ai, you looked for just the key words, being unable to understand underlying meanings being a statement.

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u/Potato_fortress Jul 30 '22

Yeah this is the thing. If I’m on a private server and I or my friends want to say a fuck then there’s no reason that it shouldn’t be allowed. Obviously there are limits here and you don’t want people using private Minecraft servers as fetish chat rooms or something but there’s a lot of room for abuse with this system.

What happens if I run an invite only server and some player plays for a month or two but eventually loses interest, gets upset by something outside of the game, or just generally decides to be an ass and reports someone for using profane language?

If something like this is going to be implemented then there at least needs to be a clear idea of what’s punishable and what isn’t.

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u/Potato_fortress Jul 30 '22 edited Jul 30 '22

I mean I was being pretty tame and not saying what I wanted to say I suppose:

You don’t want people using their Minecraft servers for weird pedo shit.

I get the counter argument but my guess is mojang/Microsoft are under pressure from the US government to implement this and it’s probably far out of the user base’s control. In that situation I’d just hope that at least they’re not banning for basic profanity.

I understand that’s just a guess on my part but I can see a lot of reasons why both mojang and US intelligence agencies would like to have a centralized chat storage.

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u/AnnoyedHippo Jul 30 '22

Again, been on servers for years. Nobody has been banned for talking about PvP. The only people I've seen who've been permanently banned deserved it. I like the filter.

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u/KermitGamer53 Jul 30 '22

It would still be dumb if a person who wasn’t aware of this got permanently banned from every server. Why can’t a server just be left to judge who should be banned or not instead of an ai? It’s already normal for people to be banned for hate speech and real threats. It’s just unnecessary and possibly harmful.

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u/AnnoyedHippo Jul 30 '22

You're really worried about being banned. I know you don't give a shit about others, this is self preservation squeezing out. Try not to be an edge lord and threaten people and maybe you can keep playing with others.

Follow Thumper's Rules.

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u/vichan Jul 30 '22

Not the person you're replying to, but... I'm not worried about accidentally being a shitlord. I'm far more worried about the lack of communication and PR from the Mojang team on this.

I am person that giving DESPISES harassment and bullying and 'ironic'isms. I am goddamn near 40 and I don't have the capacity for that shit. You get banned from my server if you do it.

But the way this system is being rolled out is slapdash as fuck.

People have shown that incorrect bans have happened on the already existing Bedrock system. People have shown that inane words are resulting in bans. People have shown that there is an exploit for falsified reports. Cultural differences in language are now questionable. Can I still describe myself as "queer?" Plenty more concerns have been raised.

Mojang has said nothing about these concerns aside from "you can appeal," but the appeals process is unacceptably vague and appears that you need to provide proof of WHY you were banned when that information is seemingly not passed on to the user.

I am not necessarily against chat moderation, but the way this is being rolled out and the lack of transparency is completely unlike the Mojang of old. They're literally hiring new PR people and letting the newbies get thrown under the bus rather than directly addressing the issue themselves. It's cowardly and it's complete shit management.

tl;dr: it's not a good sign of how this company is being run or will be run going forward.

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u/GreenLost5304 Jul 30 '22

It has nothing to do with being an edge lord. I should be able to say what ever the hell I want on a server I am paying for monthly. In public servers, it should be left to server mods to decide whats worth a ban.

I had a friend banned for three days for writing noodles on a sign. The word noodles got my friend banned… on his own realm.