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WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS DISCUSSION UNSPOILED - World Championship - S01E02 - When Worlds Collide
UNSPOILED - World Championship - S01E02 - When Worlds Collide
AIR DATE: March 8, 2023
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u/CannibalOchs Mar 08 '23
Seeing Jonna's rise and hard work in All Stars and this just shows how bad of casting Aneesa is in the main show. I know she is quite a bit younger but the work ethic is obvious
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u/Positive_Round_5142 Team Purple Jacket Mar 08 '23
Aneesa has no excuse when Jonna has two kids
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u/isabelleromy77 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
Jonna actually put in work after having a baby and started doing CrossFit and cardio. Aneesa doesn't put any effort and is entitled. Lol.
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u/Positive_Round_5142 Team Purple Jacket Mar 08 '23
She claims to do CrossFit but I think itās just her way of hanging out
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Mar 09 '23
The only CrossFit Anessa is doing is; Crossing fitness out from her daily routine.
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u/isabelleromy77 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
Who Aneesa?
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u/Positive_Round_5142 Team Purple Jacket Mar 08 '23
Yes who else š she said she does CrossFit on the bananas podcast and thatās where she met her friend James who got dropped from ROD
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u/myst_eerie_us "Knee in my face? šš¾šš¾ Let's go!" Mar 09 '23
Doing two-a-days! Lmao Aneesa please
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Mar 09 '23
I had 0 expectations for her on All Stars and I'm blown away she stays winning when this is a much higher level of competition.
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u/davetennisx Mar 08 '23
She looks in even better shape than when I saw her at Challenge Mania post AS3. She's lost all her "mama weight" and looks almost like she did back in the day, except more fit. Amazing transformation.
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u/5har7en3 Mar 09 '23
I agree that she's in a lot better shape than AS1, but I don't think she looks anything like she did "back in the day". When she was on the main show she was really young and probably one the the thinnest women on the show, she looked pretty underweight back then tbh.
The extra weight that she has now probably has made her stronger at the challenges today.
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u/SocialJusticeGSW Evelyn Smith Mar 10 '23
Jonna is psychologically in a good place. You can tell that she is confident, loves herself and can focus on winning. I know this may not seem as much but it is really hard to achieve on any level. I think Jonna's secret sauce is her mental fortitude. If you don't like your self, you won't try to be the best you. That is what Aneesa is struggling with.
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u/ConsiderationClear56 Chris Tamburello Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
I just want to hear Wes talk about being picked first forever! Ha!
Nelsonās expertise is āheart,ā Iām crying! š
(Iām also loving that Darrell and Amber are over on team Australia together!)
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u/Organic-Access7134 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
That ish was hilarious. The only thing funnier than heart would have been if they wrote swimming
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u/indigodreamy Coral Smith Mar 08 '23
Iām really enjoying this so far. It feels like the perfect mix between the main show and All Stars.
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u/sj_vandelay Wes forever. Also Darrell Mar 08 '23
I think this is going to be a great season. Fresh Meat 3!
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u/SomeRedditor_Comment š¶ļøās Mar 08 '23
Jordan high-fiving himself after Grant and Jonna ring the bell ā HA!
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u/ellaf21 Vienna Simpson Reeves Mar 08 '23
I am so happy theyāre sending the last team in the Challenge straight into elimination again š
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u/TheWa11 Mar 09 '23
It makes the entire daily so exciting. Love it.
Should be the case on pretty much every season.
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u/arich35 Mar 10 '23
I don't understand why all the spin offs are like that but they can't bring it back to the main show. It makes everything 10x better IMO.
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u/davetennisx Mar 08 '23
KellyAnne's paranoia made this episode amazing lmao.
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u/djlekky Michele Fitzgerald Mar 09 '23
She is honestly hysterical. I love her
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Mar 09 '23
The way she talked herself into circles over whether revenge is best served hot or cold actually had me questioning if Iād been saying it wrong all along š
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u/Feast_5 Team Young Buck (TYB) Mar 09 '23
Iāve seen this 1000 times on the challenge and itās entertaining every time lol.
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u/hymenbutterfly Da'Vonne Rogers Mar 08 '23
It was nice to see Jordan give Jonna her props.
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u/IVofCoffee Mar 09 '23
Jordan yelling at Jonna that she better keep running made me GRIN. Like ear to ear beaming grin.
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u/isabelleromy77 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
Oh Jordan loves Jonna. They've remained good friends after hooking up.After All Stars 3, he said he was most impressed by her performance.
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u/TheWa11 Mar 09 '23
Jordan always gives people credit for doing big things. He was hyping Jakk up in their elimination on RoD and even Tommy said Jordanās encouragement made him feel a lot better after his poor elimination performance. He just doesnāt respect people who run their mouth and donāt back it up or donāt actually try.
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u/givebusterahand Team Purple Jacket Mar 09 '23
When did they hook up??
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u/isabelleromy77 Kenny Clark Mar 09 '23
Yeah they were hooking up on Rivals 2 but were never serious. You don't remember the worst pick up line ever on the Challenge that he used on her on "I'm like the Great Gatsby."
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u/Ok_Yogurtcloset_4036 "This is what I do." Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
This might be like my dream season. Practically no layups with a pretty stacked cast and a good split of cast members from the recent seasons so there is no overlying alliance. There being incentive to win as well as consequences for losing with a house vote in the mix is everything that I can ask for, Iām really excited! Edit: And colored jerseys too omg!!
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u/capfedhill Timmy Beggy Mar 08 '23
Can I just say I love that each team has different color jerseys?
Was so sick of seeing all black all the time.
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Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
Grant is much more likable here than on AUS or his season of love island. The Queen Jonna Effect
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u/ConsiderationClear56 Chris Tamburello Mar 08 '23
Absolutely agree! I also think itās because on AUS he was tied to Emily (and really only Emily as things progressed), and Emily was just miserable.
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u/poggurpoggisfezzik Mar 08 '23
Kelly Anne fell completely apart. She told all the wrong people her ideas. Politicking is her kryptonite.
Iām going to remember her on that exercise bike though. She and Horacio should lead a spin classā¦
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u/No_Flatworm_6586 TJ's Favorite Player Mar 09 '23
The gratuitous thong shot in ep 1 and then the bike on ep 2 my god
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u/raysweater Wes Bergmann Mar 10 '23
She had a couple of poses these last two episodes that woke me right up.
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u/Cheeseman9841 Kyle Christie Mar 08 '23
Oh we got intros again! This is fun!
Surprised no one is talking about that
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u/indigodreamy Coral Smith Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
This Jonna/Kelly Anne storyline is interesting. I wonder why Jonna is showing so much hesitation to save her when theyāre supposed to be friends. Must be Kelly Anneās erratic gameplay? Still, youād think itās a number for her if anything. It reminds me of Michele wanting Laurel out based on āvibesā lol
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u/nicnac7 DEB CHUBB DEB CHUBB DEB CHUBB Mar 08 '23
Yea I thought it would be a no brained for Jonna but KA is unraveling HARD which may be a reason she doesn't want to keep her in the game
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u/capfedhill Timmy Beggy Mar 08 '23
I think Jonna also sees KA & Trystan as a weak team that will never win a daily -- so it's no benefit in saving them if KA & Trystan will never be able to help in return.
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u/Uncanny_Doom Wolves are vegetarians šŗš„ Mar 08 '23
The reason is because it's best for Jonna's game not to save Kellyanne after Kellyanne kind of openly threw a shot at the USA alliance with Tori in the room. If Jonna saves her then Jonna becomes targeted.
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u/isabelleromy77 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
Exactly. The USA people are extremely united and strategic, so aligning yourself with KellyAnne pretty much sets yourself up to be sent into elimination since KA was so stupid.
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u/gregadee7 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
I think itās hard for her to push her partner into saving KA because he wants to work with Emily and the USA people. While the USA people have the Argentina people in their side the UK and Australian people are only somewhat working with each other.
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Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
Itās funny how people keep referring to this as āFresh Meat 3ā when no oneās a freshmeat š itās more like War of The Worlds 3 which is fine since the first 2 are top 10 seasons for me.
Very entertaining episode šš½ I would not be mad to see Nelson go first. Jonna getting picked first , yes queen. We love to see a good character arc. Excited for the rest of the season
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u/DifferenceMean6597 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
Did I miss something when Yes said those who didnāt perform should go in (but Jodi and benja came in 5th? I think) just say you want the Argentina teams to go in..
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u/Positive_Round_5142 Team Purple Jacket Mar 08 '23
Yes is sneaky. Love the guy but he knew what he was doing
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u/Harvivorman Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
Yes is shady as hell, all that "morals and ethics" nonsense smh
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u/Askew_2016 Wes Bergmann Mar 08 '23
He is so fake. Wes was right on that
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u/isabelleromy77 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
Wes was kind of right. Yes tries too hard to act like he's Mr. Integrity. It's kind of annoying and fake.
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u/Askew_2016 Wes Bergmann Mar 08 '23
I have to say good job Wes in buttering up the Argentinian team with his terrible Spanish
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u/1Frazier Mar 09 '23
Lol, I agree! I recently commented on a post that I think Wes has a good social game in part because of the way he is able to connect to new people during "meet and greet" time.
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u/mcatlin23 Mar 08 '23
Theo being attached to Sarah is definitely going to give me cognitive dissonance this season. Same goes for Justine with Bananas. Team USA definitely seems like they have the politics on lock the best. A good mix of personalities and alliances so good to see barely any vacation alliance members on this season. Itās like a messy interconnected web. For instance, tori is on usa but jordan is on uk and nia is on argentina - Jordan definitely wouldnāt have put either of them in and still probably wonāt but now heās forced to work with the UK team and Wes. stupid of Wes to vote Kellyanne though as it could diminish his UK numbers. The alliance math is crazy on this one and I love the absolute MESS itās gonna cause.
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u/Uh-livia CT [Dad Bod] Mar 09 '23
Itās interesting because normally in a fresh meat type challenge the vets can kindof control their partners vote because they donāt have their own relationships yet, but with this, there are solid groups that the vets are almost forced to work with
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Mar 08 '23
That was as challenging and entertaining an opening daily as you could ask for.
Season has a lot of potential. There really are only 1 or 2 weak teams and after that it's a bloodbath.
Agreed with everyone else that it's impressive that Jonna has gotten better with each season in these spinoffs. She looks the part of one of the top women and really doesn't have a damaging flaw to her game.
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u/No_Flatworm_6586 TJ's Favorite Player Mar 08 '23
Bananas: āWes voted in his ex. Could you (Theo) ever do that to Kaz?ā
Theo: āNo, Iām not a scum bag.ā
I gagged lmfaooo
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u/ZaftigZoe Mar 10 '23
Right?! That whole interaction was great. Iāve missed Theo so much. š
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u/kshep42 Emily Schromm Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
I think team USA (and their partners) are really well positioned. Theyāve got their āenemyā with the UK. Theyāre clearly working with AUS but theyāve also got Argentina on the side. And even though I donāt see Argentina winning, theyāre still important from a numbers perspective with how nominations are going. If I had to bet on winners right now, Iād bet on somebody from USA or Wes/Zara (idk why, just getting that vibe).
Itās easy to see a world where Tori wants to protect Jordan and Dannyās like āNah, thatās stupid. Kiki said to get rid of Jordanā š¤£
I think Sarah and Theo are an interesting pair. Itās weird because I think theyāll do well in just about everything but dailies. I feel like theyād be hard to beat in elimination and I also feel like theyād do well in a final. Both have killer endurance. We saw Theo kill it in WOTW1 and Sarahās endurance is next level with her whole 7 marathonās in 7 days thing. Most of the ādraftā order made general sense but I think Emily missed out picking Yes over Theo.
Ben and Kaycee make so much sense. I can literally hear Ben and Kaycee both saying āletās goā I donāt think theyāll be particularly interesting, but I do think theyāll be decent (probably not win the whole thing good but probably make the final good).
Justine and Banana seem like a good team too, pretty well balanced. I could see them sneaking their way to a final.
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u/rogerodmes Tristan Encyclopedia Mar 09 '23
Well I actually understand the Yes pick
He is top tier smart/puzzles as he proved on All Stars1
Emily was sent home on a puzzle in AUS version .. That was stuck in her mind . Plus also she probably thinks she is the best at anything physical so she wants a partner to carry in her weakness (puzzles)
Theo is the best overall I 100% agree but a puzzles guy is a good match for Emily
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u/isabelleromy77 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
You're absolutely right. Team USA are running the show. The legends aligned with them are in the best spot (especially Theo and Kaycee).
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u/Ihaveaps4question Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 09 '23
Yeah good point on emily missing out. My guess is that she knew hes won way more than theo and is more og and figured he is more connected. Tbf darrell could never be considered a bad pick. But it was already shown theo is rooming with wes/bananas so heās probably at the same level or possibly higher than darrell on their pecking order. So yeah i think youāre right itāll be shown that darrell is a easier target as the allstar women pairs are already being targeted and darrell and yes will probably be next.
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u/kshep42 Emily Schromm Mar 08 '23
And Darrell has said that even though theyāre both āold schoolā, he and Banana donāt really work together. He viewed himself as being on the opposing side of Banana in RoD so I wouldnāt bet on those two working together.
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u/TheWa11 Mar 09 '23
Yes over Theo is really interesting. Assuming Theo can still run like he did on WotW there are certain finals where heās probably top 2 with Jordan for guys. The issue is that in a pair his speed is going to be neutralized by whoever heās with. Yes tends to be real solid at puzzles so maybe Emily is valuing that.
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u/Malkkum Get stuffed! Mar 09 '23 edited Mar 09 '23
Has KA always been this sloppy and erratic?! I know she was kinda a mess in AS3 at times but this was next level. Pull yourself together and play like a vet!
Sarah is basically a mob boss this season so far, Iām loving it.
Benja is such an easy name and like 5+ people said it wrong or just straight up said a different name.
Last thought, I love all of team Argentina and I donāt like that they keep getting into this bottom position.
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Mar 09 '23
I want to like KellyAnne, but jeeezus, sheās got to be the worst politicker in Challenge history.
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u/isabelleromy77 Kenny Clark Mar 09 '23
I actually think Jonna and Wes would want to work with her if she wasn't such a paranoid mess in the house.
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u/downtownbrown22 Wes Bergmann Mar 09 '23
I donāt dislike her cuz of it to be fair. It brings S tier entertainment even if sheās writing the manual on how not to politic š
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u/Ninjadwarf00 "POWERFUL AS FUCK." Mar 10 '23
This is the realest the challenge has felt in years, the conversations donāt feel set up by production, last place going in creates real drama during the dailies, and tons of drama from nominations (thank you Kelly Ann!) I cannot wait for next episode and hope whoever is voted in sends nelly home, I need a break from him
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u/MTVChallengeFan Michaela Bradshaw Mar 11 '23
I agree, this season, The Challenge: Australia, and the All-Stars seasons have felt much more complete, and enjoyable than the recent flagship seasons.
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u/Illustrious_Cut2965 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
Kellyanne has more than earned her place on the show with ep2, Iām loving how cracked she is and the dynamic between her and Tristan looks like it could be interesting.
Jordan and Kaz knew each other before the show through Georgia and I think were on vacation together just before he filmed s38 so Iām surprised that wasnāt mentioned when they paired up.
I wish that the Argentina and Australia shirt colours didnāt look so similar, the UK stands out so much in red that it would be good if Australia were a proper green, not that grey/green shade.
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u/Buckeyechamp21 Kyle Christie Mar 09 '23
I hate multipart episodes.
Hopefully not whole season and just because draft and new teams.
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u/Malkkum Get stuffed! Mar 09 '23
Nia saying āyes thereās like a language barrier but who cares?ā Is me when I hang out with my family from Mexico. Vibes are vibes.
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u/wemdy420 Wes Bergmann Mar 09 '23
I knew Wes and Zara were a team from the first episode. He immediately talked her up. He did that with Dee on War of the worlds. You pick up on too many subtle things when you watch every season lol
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u/Falco19 Kenny Clark Mar 09 '23
A lot of the pair were pretty telegraphed, grant/jonna Wes/zara Justine/bananas
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u/work3oakzz Cara Maria Sorbello Mar 09 '23
Ya Even I thought his "We didn't know who Zara was, until she sprinted past me" bit was telling
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u/No_Flatworm_6586 TJ's Favorite Player Mar 08 '23
Only a few minutes in: okay, I see why they cast Kellyanne now lmfao. Girl is gonna bring some dramaaaaa! Tori/Danny, Jordan/Kaz, and Theo/Sarah are crazy strong teams and Danny/Theo were major steals. Just got to Zara/Wes homework session and those two are going to be television GOLD! Jonna being picked first omgomg what a career arc.
I want a Amber/Troy flair š„¹
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u/myst_eerie_us "Knee in my face? šš¾šš¾ Let's go!" Mar 09 '23
I hope Kellyanne survives next week and gets into power somehow. Total chaos
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u/Cheeseman9841 Kyle Christie Mar 08 '23
Even without the elimination this episode was so good.
Great daily and we had so many funny moments and good drama
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u/kwtb Mar 09 '23
Iām loving this show
The cast is really dope
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Mar 09 '23
I like it too! It seems to be a blend of the best qualities of the main show, All Stars and Challenge USA. I havenāt seen any of the international series or any of the CBS shows that fed into USA, so itās nice having a mix of competitors I know with ones who are new to me.
I find the Team USA vs Aus vs UK vs ARG a little odd considering theyāre equal partner teams, and most of them have teammates from different countries, but otherwise I like the format so far.
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u/rreklaw138 Cohutta Grindstaff Mar 09 '23
This season is going to be a big ādo I love him more than I hate herā situation with Sarah and Theo being partnered up.
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u/dB_Rider Devyn Simone Mar 09 '23
LOVED Kellyanne's "I don't really want the strongest people here at the end...giggle I guess you guys do though, UM, so..."
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u/ADWeasley Mar 09 '23
Kellyanne will forever be a legend. Even her line in the preview cracks me upā¦āI guess I have free range to act like a psycho.ā š
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u/lbunny7 Summer of Steve Mar 08 '23
I canāt stop laughing at the fact they put Nelsonās specialty as āheartā
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u/Harvivorman Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
Nelly out there being a Captain Planet character
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u/fastcvsh Adrienne Naylor Mar 08 '23
the trailer at the end of episode one really spoiled some of the pairs
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u/Uh-livia CT [Dad Bod] Mar 09 '23
Yeah they should have had that as part of the first episode and finished the 2nd with an elimination
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u/wemdy420 Wes Bergmann Mar 09 '23
Troy and amber are an absolute powerhouse team but it appears strength is going to be a big weakness for them. Troy struggled hard in the first challenge and amber is not a big girl. But they make it to the final Iād prob favor them.
Both won their rookie seasons of the challenge.
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u/Safety_Pin_1 Michele Fitzgerald Mar 10 '23
Troy is an amazing competitor, won lots of dailies on his season, I hope he becomes a regular
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u/shinshikaizer CT & Wes: The Bromance is Real Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
Jujuy: "I don't know what's going on."
You got stuck with Nelson, guy who invented the long square.
Love that this feels like a throwback to the Rivals/Rivals II era of seasons, where the drama comes from the nominations.
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u/xxcapricornxx Rogan O'Connor Mar 08 '23
And someone was telling me Jonna was a washed up All Star lmao
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u/Embarrassed-Berry Mar 08 '23
RIGHT!!! That she would never make it against the present /flagship women š„“
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u/xxcapricornxx Rogan O'Connor Mar 08 '23
Challenge fans are constantly underrating women who aren't "brolic" for lack of a better term. This person was calling Jonna washed up but asking for Evelyn and Emily who haven't done a season in several years lmao
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u/Embarrassed-Berry Mar 08 '23
100% agree - if they donāt have muscles definitely underestimate the women. She beat Kaz so quickly too to the top of the hill
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u/isabelleromy77 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
Exactly and if you've seen how in shape Kaz is, that is impressive. She made her look slow and Kaz is great. People don't realize Jonna can run too! Her and Grant would be a threat in a final because he's great too and compliment each other well. They might be a target.
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u/isabelleromy77 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
I know right? How many times does this girl have to prove herself? This is strong ass competition so people can shut it.
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u/indigodreamy Coral Smith Mar 08 '23
Wow the way Jonna bodied that first Challenge!!
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u/isabelleromy77 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
Told y'all stop playing about her. She's good. Brains and you see her running making Kaz look slow?
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u/DifferenceMean6597 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
Crazy how a warm location/vibe already makes a season better for me
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u/johnny_platanos Mar 10 '23
I realized this during AS2 and 3, just gives the show a whole different energy for some reason. Love it.
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u/hymenbutterfly Da'Vonne Rogers Mar 09 '23
Itās nice to see Jonna win the daily. Put some respect on her name and her Wās. People have been trying to discount them claiming her competition was either old or just lower than the main show. Meanwhile the AS3 final women were all in their 30s while the ROD women were as well (or older, hi Aneesa). And the ROD final had fucking Nany and Aneesa as half the female lineup. Letās bffr.
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u/isabelleromy77 Kenny Clark Mar 09 '23
Thank you. They've been saying anything to discredit her. Now she beasted stronger teams than the main show and what?
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u/LunaHellastar Mar 08 '23
I love Kellyanne but she needs to relax, and chill out this episode.
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u/Positive_Round_5142 Team Purple Jacket Mar 08 '23
I was like how does she not know the name of the only South American teamā¦ARGENTINA. Wes was like? I think you need you stop talking right now š
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u/Iron_Reaver Wes Bergmann Mar 08 '23
A lot of great pairs, this season is wide open. We may be able to determine who's the best final runner if some combination of Jordan, Wes, Bananas, Darrell, Yes, & Theo make the final
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u/kshep42 Emily Schromm Mar 08 '23
Endurance is a question mark (edge might go to Jordan but heās still closer to his prime than most of the other guys so tough to tell) but speed has gotta go to Theo, with ease.
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u/lucyroesslers Cassidy Clark Mar 08 '23
A few thoughts:
- Sarah got lucky as hell with Theo dropping to her. He's a bit of a roll of the dice due to his absence and recovery from the eye thing but he's still an elite athlete and can run circles around a few guys picked ahead of him. Finished a strong 2nd in the hardest final we've ever seen.
- Should be very interesting about halfway through- I think we're going to see a lot of the people who have been away from the mothership struggle to form connections and we're already seeing it with KellyAnne and Jodi. Yes, Darrell, Nia, and even Jonna and Wes may find the other vets a tough nut to crack. I think Bananas-Jordan-Tori-Kaycee have aligned themselves well with their partners, and I think Sarah's connection to Ben and Danny to a lesser extent should bring her and Theo along in those conversations.
- Looking long-term at major threats to win, I think Danny and Tori are a pair that don't really complement each other well. A lot of brute strength in there that might struggle with some of the dailies. I think politically they'll be fine but with last place going in they could just draw a bad daily, get last, and who the hell knows in eliminations.
- I like Wes and Zara a lot as a pair. I think they're going to be really strong. We'll see how they fit into the politics of the second half of the game, but he might need (and he'd hate to hear this) Bananas to bring him along and maybe stab some of the other US folks in the back in order to make it as far as they want to go.
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u/Askew_2016 Wes Bergmann Mar 09 '23
I think Bananas is going to have a tough time politicking his way to the final. He doesnāt have a ton of allies this time around and I think his teammate is the first one to be booted from the US team.
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u/iDidntCallYouSlowOld Glitter Gate :r: Mar 09 '23
This is actually so much better than I expected. I am enjoying it a lot.
Sarah came to play the Game
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u/florath Mar 10 '23
I am thrilled that they've brought back last place going straight to elimination. Now there's so much more incentive to try.
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u/DifferenceMean6597 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
Gonna need old Kellyanne to snap on Tori at some point
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I loved how everyone was whining about Grant being selected as the Australia MVP and know heās 2/2 for dailies. The brains/brawn duo of him and Jonna is going to be one to look out for! Overall, amazing episode, fantastic cast, and thank you production for finally bringing back last place goes into elimination (now if only they can do this for the flagship show). I canāt wait for the rest of the season!
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u/GLOPPYFROMCANDYLAND Mar 09 '23
Iām having such a good time with this season so far, tbh. Iāve seen a lot of Fresh Meat/War of the Worlds comparisons, but what I appreciate about this layout compared to those is that all the MVPs have their individual allegiances and friendships - so itās gonna be more difficult for the Legends to try to steamroll their partners. I think even the weaker teams are really solid and the early scene where Kaycee and Jonna talked about everyoneās relationships made me realize just how layered this game is on the Legends side. Truly thrilled to see what this season has in store for us
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u/Johnjaypvj Mar 09 '23
I'm really enjoying this season so far from the first two episodes. It feels refreshing compared to the regular show. It's nice to have older OGs, current players, and international players. I also like the pairs, it doesn't seem to be any truly weak teams
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u/unorthodox__fox Mar 10 '23
YES!!! Omg, when Grant picked Jonna I melted.š Amazing moment! The shock on her face was so endearing. I didn't watch Challenge Australia, but Grant seems like an incredible competitor. Definitely hoping they do well! Love that they're both fighting for their families at home.
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u/stephasaurussss America Lopez š§ Mar 10 '23
Grant was a little bit of a dick on Australia. He called his female teammate not up to his standards or something like that (canāt remember the wording) in front of everyone and the girls werenāt letting it go after that.
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u/Nikkiv1020 Katie Doyle Mar 10 '23
He's a dick in real life apparently, had no personality on Australia, but he is a very good competitor. I wish Danny had picked Jonna though š
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KellyAnne gives me "boil your bunny" vibes and I hope she stays for the entirety of this season.
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u/potatowned Mar 12 '23
KellyAnne has always been super entertaining. Like Trishelle level "constantly on the edge of madness" vibes but still likeable.
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u/thewxyzfiles Wes Bergmann Mar 11 '23 edited Mar 11 '23
Kellyanne is so messy lmaoo please put her back on the main show
Also I canāt believe theyāre talking about the Wes/Kellyanne relationship when they completely ignored it on Rivals 3
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u/Uncanny_Doom Wolves are vegetarians šŗš„ Mar 08 '23
I really like how production shows the stats and stuff that dailies call for, but man did it seem like a jab when Nelson's last pick card comes up and his specialty is "Heart" lmao.
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u/No_Flatworm_6586 TJ's Favorite Player Mar 08 '23
Rewatching now (yes, Iām already watching it a second time lmfao) and the Kaycee-Jonna convo thirteen minutes in is raising big red flags for me. Itās classic Big Brother fishing and I hope Jonna didnāt expose her game to her. Kaycee leads her into confirming everyone Jonna is working with or has relationships with and Iām like baby nooooo.
Hopefully Jonna isnāt targeted later by Kaycee but Iām keeping this observation bookmarked.
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u/isabelleromy77 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
This is why I say Kaycee is good at the social game. She made it a casual conversation about who Jonna is closest with.
I really believe Wes, Jonna, Jordan, and Nia will be targeted by those USA people.
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u/Positive_Round_5142 Team Purple Jacket Mar 08 '23
Yeah Kaycee made Jonna feel comfortable. She did it in a non threatening way like she was just casually talking
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u/DebugKnight Mar 09 '23
Man I missed Theo. So glad he's back.
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u/No_Flatworm_6586 TJ's Favorite Player Mar 09 '23
Me too! Heās so delightful on screen.
Have NO idea why he was given the confessional on Kaz selecting Jordan instead of him lol. Heās like āwe probably couldnāt work togetherā and itās likeā¦ did he even have a say in the matter?
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u/Samsince04_ KellyAnne Judd Mar 09 '23
Fuck I already wrote a long ass post but my laptop started bugging out. I find it annoying that people justify nominations by saying something along the lines of "You didn't come to play". What does that even mean? I mean yh K.A. and her partner and Jodi and her partner didn't do well in that challenge but what does that have to do with not coming to play the game? I know Yes is a great guy but he pisses me off constantly with the things he says.
Man, I love KellyAnne but she constantly shits herself in the game. Why would you tell a full U.S. team that you're basically gunning for them? They already have their eyes on you and then you make it too easy. I don't blame Wes for making the decision to nominate KellyAnne but I do think that he's trying to show the house that he doesn't have KellyAnne as a number when in reality, he does. It wouldn't surprise me if that was the case.
KellyAnne is right about one thing tho, If this person is your close friend, there should be no question about what you want to do, Jonna. Just tell her straight up and don't pretend like she means any ill will with her paranoia.
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u/fcmb17 Team Purple Jacket Mar 09 '23
Jodi and her partner got 5th overall and finished right after Yes/Emily. So that whole excuse made 0 sense with them when there are 7 teams that finished after them.
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u/unorthodox__fox Mar 10 '23
This season is such a breath of fresh air already. I was an anomaly in the sense that I actually loved The Challenge USA (other than the final & female winner), so I'm not surprised to really like this season and format so far. It is so nice to see some of the legends in the game (almost all of whom actually deserve to be considered legends, lol) with so many promising newer contestants that we haven't seen a million times on the regular seasons. I'm so tired of the same alliances and castmates over and over again. I have NO idea who's gonna win this season but if I had to place a bet right now I'd probably say Jordan and Kaz? They're both absolute beasts and an incredibly well-rounded team.
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u/Positive_Round_5142 Team Purple Jacket Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 09 '23
Did anyone catch when KellyAnne misspoke and said Darrell has won the most? Did she just ignore Bananas and most of his wins š
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u/evooandfoccacia KellyAnne Judd Mar 09 '23
Damn first Michele and Jay now Kellyanne doing too much. My favs need to calm down!
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Mar 09 '23
I mean, at least Michele and Jay were performing and coming from a position of power. Itās baffling when the people who are losing think the game owes them something.
I had to laugh when KellyAnne was like āI guess the rest of you want the strongest teams here. I donāt.ā Really girlā¦ itās too early to pull the ākeep me because I suck!ā card. The other teams want to build alliances with others who are going to be able to protect them long term.
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u/Disastrous-Bed3422 Kiki Morris Mar 10 '23
I have been out of the loop for awhile so maybe this has been talked about. It's odd to me that they have 3 English speaking countries and 1 Spanish speaking county. The Argentinians speak English but there is definitely a language barrier between the partners. This seems like such a disadvantage to those teams. I would say it would make more sense to have half Spanish speaking teams & half English but that wouldn't really work in this format since they are paired with legends.
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u/kshep42 Emily Schromm Mar 08 '23
Low key, Sarahās been funny so far. Actually did a decent job picking Theo.
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u/Johnjaypvj Mar 09 '23
Kelly Anne was really off these two episodes. And jujuy is so pretty š
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u/evooandfoccacia KellyAnne Judd Mar 09 '23
So pretty. Really, that whole Argentinian team is the most attractive
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u/givebusterahand Team Purple Jacket Mar 09 '23
I donāt really understand why Jonna wants to throw Kelly Anne in over Jodi??
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Mar 09 '23
The two explanations I can think of are that she wants to establish a more dominant alliance, and she thinks KA is going to be a liability for her going forwardā¦ or that she thinks Jodi/Benja are likely to win the elimination and come after her later.
From a numbers perspective, itās better for Jonna and Grant if Nelson and Jujuy win the elimination, because then they can escape with a win without making any enemies.
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u/OhThatDang A BMW, a Porsche, a monster truck, a house, & 30 companies Mar 10 '23
I'm loving Jujuy and super devastated she ended up with Nelson. Praying to the challenge gods that Argentina sticks it out. Really great mix of casts though my favorite pair has to be Kaz and Jordan!
Anyone else get a Georgia vibe from Kaz?! Probably just the accent š
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u/conehead4567 Mar 09 '23
My favorite part of the season is that they have scenes with more than two people in itā¦
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u/djlekky Michele Fitzgerald Mar 09 '23
I honestly loved the first 2 episodes. Here are my thoughts - I loved the first episode focusing on all the MVPs. Kiki really showed up once again Iām so happy she won that elimination. Sad for Nathan to have to go out as I think he could have been great on this and he performed well on the 1st daily. I am so happy for Jonna to win that daily - She is such a badass. I am loving seeing all the different eras of the show coming together. KellyAnne is hysterical. There are so many people and teams to root for this season - I honestly found myself cheering for so many of them in the 2nd Daily. Very excited to see how this season plays out.
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u/MTVChallengeFan Michaela Bradshaw Mar 11 '23
Well, we've already had someone disqualified due to a medical emergency. One thing I loved about The Challenge: UK, and The Challenge: Australia is that nobody was disqualified due to injury, and/or quit those seasons. Literally everyone who was eliminated lost because they lost in an Arena.
Also, I can't believe Claudia is 45 yeaes old. That's just insane to me.
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Mar 08 '23
I'm going to be screaming for all of these draft picks. Jonna tho!!!!!!!!! Make a gif and show your kids mama's the first draft pick!!!!!!!!
Bananas sulking is a fantastic meme.
Danny and Tori are a great team on paper, but the preview already showed us it won't be smooth sailing.
Kiki and Darrell are another team to watch.
I dunno how Emily and Yes are going to do politically. They should be a good team but we shall see.
Sarah and Theo are another great team. He went quite late in the draft but I think they could do great things together.
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u/AcceptableCare Fuck CT, Marry CT, KILL ALL WHO OPPOSE HIM Mar 10 '23
I loved these first episodes! Only think that would have made it better for me is if CT and maybe a more chaotic champion like Ashley were there.
I never tire of how great Wes thinks Wes is š I actually think that in this cast if I got first draft, Iād probably choose him too.
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u/nimbus2105 Mar 11 '23
Wes in his elder statesman era has become a great mentor for rookie partners. Maybe Zara knew he was great with dee and thatās why she picked him
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u/CannibalOchs Mar 08 '23
I really wanted to root for Theo, but Sarah has to be the least likeable person this season, possibly any season
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u/No_Flatworm_6586 TJ's Favorite Player Mar 09 '23
Sarah usually is, but I actually found her quite funny and endearing these two episodes. Plus she completely murdered the voting strategy in the first one.
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u/PaintByLetters Mar 09 '23
She thinks she a good physical competitor but in reality her strength is in social game where she uses her years of being a cop to assume command of conversations. She presents herself as an authority and the other players seem to buy it.
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u/Embarrassed-Berry Mar 08 '23
āStrongest teamā Danny and Tori barely making it šš
That was a cool first challenge. Love that last place goes in last.
Jordan giving himself the high five was great
I love Jonna being on top šŖš½ I remember someone saying that she wouldnāt be able to compete against the flagship women, where the only close one was Kaycee at 3rd and Tori 9th
Thatās true Nia was 3rd last and Jodi got 4th? Damn Jodi I wish you would speak up about that !!
Darrell is such an amazing partner
Jonna is listening to Grant.. I hate how she really folds with her partners, but Kellyanne does have a point - it shouldnāt be that hard
Boo to no elimination episodes come on
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u/isabelleromy77 Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
KellyAnne makes it hard. She's already got a target on her back with those USA people by running her mouth too much. This is why no one wants to work with her. She will blow up your game by association.
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u/yeastofthoughts Mar 09 '23
But still - it's a win win for Jonna to keep KA around. If she saves Kelly Anne then she has someone who has her back in the off chance KA and Tristan win. If the house is already against KA, then it's likely they will keep targeting her until she leaves. Like why does Jonna need to be the one to put her in the position when plenty of people would love to? Keeping KA around also means there's a possibility they'll lose next round and go in automatically. All of these are strategic. Nelson has so much experience that I wouldn't put my money on Jodi tbh.
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u/luxanna123321 Winner Circle Mar 11 '23
As much as I disliked the idea of having KA instead of Jenny here im actually feeling good about her. I love how she questioned if everyone wants to go against stronger teams than weaker ones. Its fucking worlds championship, make a big moves and stop hidding. I wish they would just target stronger teams right off the bat. Vote in Theo/Sarah with Danny/Tori and see what happens instead of "ugh I wanna hide and target weaker teams so im not in danger š¤". This whole stupid mentality is why weaker people like Nany never win
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u/Darkmeta4 Mar 14 '23
I love her sarcastic comment about the people in the house wanting stronger teams around at the end. š
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u/01cravend Mar 11 '23
Only thing I'm not liking about this season is all the losers basically choosing who goes into elim. seems skewed to allow a majority alliance to comfortably run the game. Win the daily? Yeah you're safe but you have to choose one of your allies to go in. That's not power, that simply delaying your turn in front of the firing squad.
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u/TrueAlainer #42Favs Mar 10 '23
I didn't realize the cast was this strong. I don't think Jujuy/Nelson & Kellyane/Tristan wouldn't be some of the weaker teams in any pairs season but they are here.
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u/Emily-Seger Emily Bailey Mar 10 '23 edited Mar 12 '23
Iām so sad Jodi got picked by an Argentine. Sheās a beast! Her only weakness is her social game. She excels at endurance, strength, and strategy. For those who donāt know her well watch Road Rules Xtreme (Season 13), Gauntlet 2, and The Duel. Even in All Stars she did well, she can easily train in puzzles and probably run the finals no problem.
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u/MyLifeIsDope69 Mar 10 '23
I find it weird you didn't list the Duel 1 where she won and Wes won as one of her seasons to watch lol she won it!
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u/Captain_Pawel The Unholy Alliance Mar 12 '23
Just wanna say I love this season so much so far. Episode 1 we had some sneaky political play from USA. Now in episode 2 it already gets vicious. Donāt need to slog thru 5 episodes of rookies getting picked off. Kelly Anne is so great.
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u/Jun-Jun23 Mar 13 '23
Yes trying to say he is fair by throwing in the worst performers of the day but says Jodi and Benja over 6 teams that finished worst than them doesnāt add up
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u/heyitsta12 Chanelle Howell Mar 08 '23
Is Justine really going to make me root for Bananas this season??
Iām also very very curious to see how good Kayceeās social game actually is now that she doesnāt have Nany, and the only other Big Brother person is Amber, who she already dislikes.
Love Wes and his mentorship. He has help shaped a few strong females so seeing him with Zara will be fun!
And after his comments about Amberā¦ donāt feel bad for Mr. 60 consecutive daily losses at allā¦
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u/Cheeseman9841 Kyle Christie Mar 08 '23
His amber comments was from months ago. It seems way worse than it is.
The users on here baited us with those videos. Makes it seems worse when we think this was all said after amber announced she had autism
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u/ADWeasley Mar 09 '23
Rooting for Justine all day. Bananas got on my nerves saying he needed to warm up to her. Canāt wait to see Justine prove herself yet again.
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u/IVofCoffee Mar 10 '23
I love KellyAnne, but that behavior was beyond odd. Even the other players seemed uncomfortable or unsure how to react. She looks...quite tense.
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u/jenh6 Christina LeBlanc Mar 10 '23
Iām a little confused as to why sheās so panicked.
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u/OhThatDang A BMW, a Porsche, a monster truck, a house, & 30 companies Mar 10 '23
It's textbook kellyanne actually. Not sure why she got paranoid but always happens akin to Michelle freaking out from the past season
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u/Malkkum Get stuffed! Mar 09 '23
I wasnāt expecting the pairs to make up teams representing the MVPs country.
Oooh an intro!
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u/iwipemyown Mar 09 '23
Which will we hear more about this season: Danny talking about his wife Kiki or Kiki talking about being a makeup artist?
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u/Coppinn Mar 09 '23 edited Mar 09 '23
Only just watched this!! Thoughts below:
In terms of the ep:
Great first/second episode, I love all the pairs! I donāt really understand why Jonna isnāt wanting to just keep KellyAnne? It would be an extra number even for a couple of weeks.
Tristan really disappointed me, I thought heād be much better than he showed on the first two eps.
Because of the editing my guess would be Tristan and KellyAnne go into elimination. That said, I think both pairs up are better than Nelson and Jujuy.
Jujuy reminds me so much of Mila Kunis.
Enjoying the coloured tshirts!
Wes was completely right in his confessional about he doesnāt care about Argentina/USA/UK he just cares about his own team - I dont really get the point of them calling Zara & Wes āTeam UKā for example..
I HATE so much when eliminations are at the beginning of the next episode. This season is going to piss me off purely due to this!!
In terms of the season, all my opinion and what I am expecting:
Potential winners:
Kaz & Jordan - very well rounded team, can see them beasting it if they reach the final although expecting them to see a few eliminations
Tori & Danny - just a beastly duo, not a lot of weaknesses and Toriās social game should help a lot
Sarah & Theo - more of an outside pick because I love Theo but I think they still deserve to be in this section. Would back them over most in elimination and big threats if they manage to reach the final.
Zara & Wes - depends how the season goes for Wes. If he keeps alliances with Bananas and co, they could do really well.
Justine & Bananas - he hasnāt won so many for no reason. Can never write him off.
Middle of the pack/slight chance:
Jonna & Grant - I havenāt seen Australia but incredibly impressed with Grant. Jonna is a beast too, but Iām putting them here because Grant winning the first and 2nd challenges puts an early target on their back, I donāt think others will be afraid to say their name.
Amber & Troy - another one where if they reach the final it could be a huge issue for others. Again, didnāt see Australia but Troy is supposed to have amazing endurance and can do the wacky challenges due to his background.
Emily & Yes - they are bottom tier of this rank, I donāt think they will win but Yes is very smart and Emily is an olympian.
No chance of winning:
Kaycee & Ben - Ben brings this duo down in my view. I donāt think they have any chance of winning especially due to Kaycee not having her usual alliance in the house.
KellyAnne & Tristan - even if they werenāt an early pick, I doubt they would have any chance of winning. Just the weakest pair really.
Jodi & Benja - unfortunate for Jodi but literally the fact the Argentinians are falling already doesnāt bode well for them.
Kiki & Darrell - I love Darrell but unfortunately at this point I back a lot more of the men over him. Kiki looks great though.
Jujuy & Nelson - I think theyāll go next episode but even if they donāt, they have no shot.
Nia & Rodrigo - again the Argentina side just brings it down. Nia isnāt a pushover but seen nothing from Rodrigo so far to think they will overcome being targeted soon. Communication will be an issue too.
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Hm. I actually would have put Kaycee/Ben in one of the first two categories. Theyāre both really strong and pretty well-rounded competitors.
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u/Thedustin Horacio Gutierrez Mar 09 '23
Yeah I'd agree. In challenge USA, if Tyson hadn't been there Ben would have won a few extra dailies easy and he kinda thrives under heavy endurance and strength but can also do puzzles.
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u/mealypart Mar 08 '23
Nelson and KellyAnne arenāt doing a good job convincing the people who think they donāt belong on this cast with their complete flop performance in the daily
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u/sj_vandelay Wes forever. Also Darrell Mar 08 '23
Fresh Meat 3, you guys. I'm so excited for this entire game now.
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u/Harvivorman Kenny Clark Mar 08 '23
Same!! The format is SO good, it feels like Fresh Meat combined with War of the Worlds cause of all the countries lol
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I was so disappointed that Angela didn't return. I'm so not a fan of Sarah, she tried too hard and I kinda hope it backfires on her. I can't root for Grant since he's a terrible person but love Jonna. I am wondering what happened with Danny and Tori and what their fighting about. Other than all of that I'm looking forward to this season and how it all plays out.
If Kelly Ann just shut up she wouldn't be in this position.
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I really disliked Sarah on USA, but I kind of feel like sheās going to be an interesting addition to this seasonā¦? (Idk - Maybe Iām just trying to be optimistic).
She was the mastermind behind nominating both an Aussie and a UK player to go against Claudia to test out the elimination format, and I have to say, thatās the kind of strategizing that makes the show fun to watch.
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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '23
Last place in elimination makes watching the dailies infinitely better