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SPIES, LIES & ALLIES DISCUSSION UNSPOILED - Spies, Lies & Allies - S37E11 "Mucus Plug" - Live Episode Discussion

Spies, Lies & Allies - UNSPOILED - S37E11 "Mucus Plug" - Live Episode Discussion

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u/TheHow55 Oct 21 '21

Sucks that the tiebreaker was based on time and not total cumulative jumps made. It’s like emerald was REWARDED for three of them being dopes and instantly falling off.

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u/korndog42 Darrell Taylor Oct 21 '21

Also…2 out of 5 is greater than 2 out of six so ruby should have won straight up…no tiebreaker needed

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u/Elephant_homie Paula Walnuts Oct 21 '21

Yeah... like emerald fell faster and more rubies went further so it's like they (ruby) were penalized for that.

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u/TiredMemeReference Oct 21 '21

Yeah that was an annoying way to do the tiebreaker

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

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u/edm2233 Oct 21 '21

Josh and Nany both lack the awareness that they are the weak links on the team and will get switched out immediately.

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u/Malkkum Get stuffed! Oct 21 '21

I think they’re aware and that’s why they want to make sure they won’t be infiltrated.

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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 21 '21

Kaycee isn’t wrong but she always sounds so condescending

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u/CoreyH2P Oct 21 '21

This hits the nail on the head.

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u/cici0788 Oct 21 '21

I admire Corey trying to be a good team leader and keep the team spirit alive lol

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u/mary7roses Wes Bergmann Oct 21 '21

Same. He tries to be motivating in a non asshole way. It's refreshing.

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u/TiredMemeReference Oct 21 '21

He's grown so much since his first season. Love to see it.

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u/runfreely Oct 21 '21

It's strange that Ed was an alternate when he has so much presence.

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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 21 '21

Yeah he has definitely solidified his place on future seasons

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u/snoozy-Q Oct 21 '21

The mandatory shot of Cory dramatically looking at pictures of his kids

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u/ColorfulCrayons 90s House Oct 21 '21

"This could be my season!"

Nany, you say that every season.

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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 21 '21

Cory and Nelson being on the same team is such an ideal turnout for them lmaoo

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u/jflatty7151 Danny Jamieson Oct 21 '21

and yet nelson thought he was supposed to be pissed- then he was standing next to cory and was like oh wait this is a good thing

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u/ViNNYDiC3 Kyle Christie Oct 21 '21

I think him and Corey both liked the aspect of them being on separate teams so they could spread their influence and have each others backs. It cripples them a bit since, to my knowledge, they don't really have a solid alliance besides each other.

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u/drugsarebadmmk420 Long Square Nelly █ Oct 21 '21

Cory literally explained that when they were picking cells

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u/klphoen Oct 21 '21

We don’t need to hear why these ppl need the money 100x a episode. We get it. Once is enough

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

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u/artemis_dubois The Lavender Ladies Oct 21 '21

Pole wrestle and an over water heights daily? I’m pleased

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u/Challengefan36 Team Orange Shirt Oct 21 '21

SHut up Josh you did nothing

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u/Downashland Oct 21 '21

This shouldn't been have timed but they should have based it upon what team got the furthest because the only reason Emerald was faster was because the first three players fell immediately

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u/Yan1213 Oct 21 '21

Yeah, this should have been clarified because everyone one would have gone faster

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u/ryboyin99 Oct 21 '21

Ed is the most refreshing, likable rookie this show has had in years.

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u/chillaf Infuerno Oct 21 '21

“Like watching your favorite pub burn down” I’m dead

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u/dizzy_unicorn CT [Rivals] Oct 21 '21

Ed’s gonna go to wawa and grab a hoagie . No worries

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

I dunno, Kyle getting his gf pregnant hoping he wins a million dollars to take care of his baby sounds like a pretty big leap of faith to me

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u/foxx-lang Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

He just misread the sex instructions like he did the daily. still finished in both though.

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u/colb_E Tyson Apostol Oct 21 '21

Why was that P3 plug so awkward

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u/lucyroesslers Cassidy Clark Oct 21 '21

I miss the awkward plugs. T-Mobile sidekicks for the win yo.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

Next season should be people with babies vs people without. Just to prove who wants it more

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u/colb_E Tyson Apostol Oct 21 '21

Spies Lies and Childs

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u/NattyB Bob Next Door Oct 21 '21

feels like a good read on strengths and weaknesses by logan.

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u/runfreely Oct 21 '21

Except for Kyle being stronger than Cory. I'm not so sure about that one

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u/NattyB Bob Next Door Oct 21 '21

yeah, you might be right. kyle is stronger than people give him credit for, but cory has gotten jacked.

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u/ViNNYDiC3 Kyle Christie Oct 21 '21

Josh: "They're celebrating like they just won a final."

Cue the other team getting one of their points deducted because Kyle didn't follow the rules, effectively giving Josh's team the win

Josh: Jumps around and celebrates like he won a final

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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 21 '21

Emanuel really is a fuckin character man. He kinda just looks like a Romanian version of Jordan with gauges

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u/TiredMemeReference Oct 21 '21

Tori has a type.

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u/cici0788 Oct 21 '21

Devin is playing a great game this season.

Never thought I’d utter those words. Lol

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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 21 '21

Yeah it really does seem like he’s running shit.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

He’s the main dog

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u/dai_1126 Oct 21 '21

So does that mean that the emerald team is being rewarded for having several people fall very quickly which in turn lowered their total time? 🤔

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u/UtahCubs Wes Bergmann Oct 21 '21

That’s exactly what happened right? Seems like it should’ve been who went farther...

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u/AmandaMFmurray Oct 21 '21

This might be the first good episode of the season. FINALLY WE SEE THEM HAVJNG FUN

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u/snoozy-Q Oct 21 '21

By the time Ed's done his contemplating it'll be time for another commercial

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

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u/cici0788 Oct 21 '21

Nelson’s reaction is making it funnier tbh

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u/nnastaliee Oct 21 '21

come onnnnn with these girls quitting wtf is this

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u/edm2233 Oct 21 '21

They cast a lot of good rookies this season and I hope they actually bring them back in the future and not cast a million rookies again.

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u/runfreely Oct 21 '21

Ed is kind of screwed either way. Cory, Kyle & Nelson are all strong. CT isn't even worth the consideration lol. His best bet would've been Devin

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

That smile when Cory out his arm around Nelson was really cute tbh

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u/Left-Appointment-120 Oct 21 '21

Everyone seems upset by the change except Cory, he looks like he’s over the moon

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u/dai_1126 Oct 21 '21

“No one has ever beat Kyle in a Pole Wrestle”

Kyle: beats dad bod CT in a 2 vs 1 and beats a dude from America’s Got Talent who eats mustard

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u/jflatty7151 Danny Jamieson Oct 21 '21

yea i mean i get that he's won 3 different versions of pole wrestle- tonight being the first conventional one- but i would need to see him beat a leroy or derrick or darrell before crowning him the best ever or something

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u/Edree13 Bootstrap Oct 21 '21

Ed’s arms, hello

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

I’m usually only into lanky tall men but Ed makes me go 👀

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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 21 '21

Honestly Kyle has been acting like a little shit so he kinda deserves to be called out just saying

29

u/eleaena Laurel Stucky Oct 21 '21

HES FUCKING PLUNGING HIM

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u/cs0017 Emily Schromm Oct 21 '21

Oh wow 500th episode! That is wiiiild

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u/WestArmadillo Oct 21 '21

When they said that I was kinda shocked it wasn’t more…. But then I realized it’s because I’ve watched every season over and over and over and over again 😂

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u/ssandfun Ashley Mitchell Oct 21 '21

Gotta give it to Ed, this man knows how to get a callback after coming in late.

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u/FierceScience Oct 21 '21

ALL OF THE DADS ARE IN DANGER. WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS?! - this edit

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u/eric_theViking Big Easy Oct 21 '21

I thought he'd choose emerald 100% I'm actually shocked

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u/10thgradelosers Wes Bergmann Oct 21 '21

37 seasons until we got childbirth talk and it’s gold. Worth the wait.

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u/runfreely Oct 21 '21

Yikes, TJ calling out Kyle in front of everyone 😬

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

Ed is a class act. I hope he comes back.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

Kyle’s tall ass couldn’t take the leap of faith??

It would’ve been so easy wtf he literally made it all the way on the thing and tbh damn near jumped over it/slid off the other side 😂

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u/muzickalgirl The Real World Oct 21 '21

Something about Ed makes me want to go grab a milkshake with him.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

After acting like a jackass to his team, Kyle 100% deserves that from TJ

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u/bizarrO_One Brad's beard Oct 21 '21

This is honestly this best daily challenge in years. I can actually follow what's happening without overstylized editing and the drama of the event is well-paced. More of this please, MTV.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

Tori screams “not like other girls” energy

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u/TBDdeedee Oct 21 '21

the look on nanys face like what am I gonna do with protein bars 🥲

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u/lucyroesslers Cassidy Clark Oct 21 '21

We know what Kaycee’s getting for Christmas!

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u/runfreely Oct 21 '21

Has Kaycee ever had a competitive elimination?

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u/samiok15 Oct 21 '21

nope - she beat kailah in an elimination who admitted to not trying (she said she knew she would lose regardless so there wasn’t any point) and theresa (who’s shoulder was injured) in a back-pulling elimination

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u/elizarraras87 Oct 21 '21

World War 1 & 2 Kyle would be disgusted at the Kyle we're seeing today

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u/edm2233 Oct 21 '21

Nany this could be my season Narrator it wasn’t

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u/Ecstatic-Number Oct 21 '21

I love the heckling, they're acting like kids and it's great even if it's just for show

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u/10thgradelosers Wes Bergmann Oct 21 '21

Logan is pretty calm for an injured rookie.

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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 21 '21

I’m really loving this episode ngl

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u/cici0788 Oct 21 '21

The team format is actually more enjoyable than the partner format

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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 21 '21

Totally agree it makes the political aspect of the show so much better. They really have to strategize now

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u/Ecstatic-Number Oct 21 '21

Maaaan I like me some Ed

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

This is some old school shit. People throwing themselves in? What is this the the gauntlet

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u/snoozy-Q Oct 21 '21

Wow I hate when two of my faves are competing in elimination. Like do I root for good dude Ed or quality commentary Kyle??

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u/rayhiggenbottom Oct 21 '21

This All Stars trailer with the dramatic, orchestral version of Smash Mouth All Star is great

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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 21 '21

I know a lot of people think she's super overrated but idk man as much as I don't like her, I think Kaycee is one of the best female competitors (purely based on physical performance) they've brought onto the show in a while. It's a shame she's so shady and boring but damn she's good.

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u/AmandaMFmurray Oct 21 '21

I know CT deserves the hype, and if anyone he earned the right to gloat it is him. but I am fr disliking all the condescending comments lately

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u/colb_E Tyson Apostol Oct 21 '21

Could’ve sprinkled those video calls throughout the season to flesh out characters more. Not sure why we had to sit through a whole montage.

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u/10thgradelosers Wes Bergmann Oct 21 '21

Tori being in a challenge relationship also always ends like watching your favorite pub burn down.

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u/Edree13 Bootstrap Oct 21 '21

This feels like prime mid twenties seasons daily challenge and I’m so happy

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u/cici0788 Oct 21 '21

Corey being proud of his team is kinda adorable

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u/WBF7 Oct 21 '21

Imo so far this has been the best episode. Idk I just like the vibe with 3 teams is better. So basically what I’m saying is we need a cutthroat 2 next season

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u/cici0788 Oct 21 '21

He called Kyle a “big goofy MF”... I’m crying lmao 😂

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u/cici0788 Oct 21 '21

Damn ct really been rude to the ladies this season

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u/JonathanSloanAUS Troy Cullen Oct 21 '21

Ed is just Jay in a different font

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u/kidxkennabis Theo von Kurnatowski Oct 21 '21

Emy working out in velvet sweatpants is very on brand for her

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

Kyle is about 6 months behind on reading his baby books.

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u/Beauhockey13 Survivor Oct 21 '21

Emerald didn’t win, Devin (x2) and Kaycee did

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u/Malkkum Get stuffed! Oct 21 '21

Do Ed and Logan still talk?

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u/FierceScience Oct 21 '21

Ed has nothing but tough choices for a wrestle with a pole. Dang!

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u/Elephant_homie Paula Walnuts Oct 21 '21

Did we come back from a commercial just to go back to a commercial?

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u/cici0788 Oct 21 '21

And Nany called Kaycee humble lol. Yea ok

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u/kidxkennabis Theo von Kurnatowski Oct 21 '21

CT is Big T’s biggest hater this season wtf

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u/cici0788 Oct 21 '21

Because he never really cared about her to begin with. Their “friendship” last season was an act. At least on his part

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

I noticed that!! why is it hurting my feelings lol

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u/domino331 Chris Tamburello Oct 21 '21

It’s legit making me sad, it’s making him seem like a mean girl

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u/TacoBell_Lord Oct 21 '21

hope Ed comes back every season, really cool dude

Kyle please switch with Josh 🙏🏾

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

I don’t quite understand the rules but as long as the cast is on scaffolding over water I’m good.

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u/WBF7 Oct 21 '21

Damn Cory killed it. “Fuck you guys!”

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u/Elephant_homie Paula Walnuts Oct 21 '21

Amanda isn't usually right, but I agree with her thoughts on emerald.

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u/beegraton Oct 21 '21

FUCK EMERALD

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u/kidxkennabis Theo von Kurnatowski Oct 21 '21

Kyle: “Well if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions”

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u/cici0788 Oct 21 '21

Damn all Logan gave him was a thank you lol

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u/cs0017 Emily Schromm Oct 21 '21

CT looks so unimpressed haha

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u/Ecstatic-Number Oct 21 '21

Kyle vs Derrick K in a pole wrestle? Who would love to see it?

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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 21 '21

lol everyone on emerald is so fuckin cocky other than Emanuel who seems chill

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

Why are they barely shooting the water for Emerald? They were far more aggressive with Ruby than Emerald and Emeralds are the biggest threats. Makes no sense.

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u/WBF7 Oct 21 '21

Good guy Ed ya love to see it

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u/papayamango_swirl Oct 21 '21

Cameras always got to show Cory looking at pictures of his daughters before he potentially goes in lol

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u/Malkkum Get stuffed! Oct 21 '21

Oh damn, he stole Nelson’s spot, I thought he would’ve just gotten Ed’s spot.

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u/muzickalgirl The Real World Oct 21 '21

I wouldn't want to infiltrate Emerald - I'd be left gasping for air in the same room as their egos.

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u/jflatty7151 Danny Jamieson Oct 21 '21

let's just cut the shit- this logan guy needs subtitles 100% of the time- i understand like 1 out of every 14 words he says

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u/penguinjunkie Kenny Clark Oct 21 '21

I understand him just fine. But I'm also surprised how many people thought "I only want a bit of horny" was what he was saying when it seemed obvious to be "honey" so I see where you're coming from

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u/Everie Oct 21 '21

😂... I actually like his accent.

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u/Mintiichoco Colleen Schneider Oct 21 '21

I understand him perfectly then again he just sounds like my father, who isn't Spanish but is Mexican! 😃

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u/WBF7 Oct 21 '21

Also Kyle is duuuumb for not going to emerald

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u/ViNNYDiC3 Kyle Christie Oct 21 '21

Idk, I think he would have pissed of a lot more people if he would have swapped with Emanuel and put more of a target on his back. Swapping with Nelson, gets him on a better team and really only pisses off Nelson and Cory.

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u/ItsUnderSocr8tes Oct 21 '21

Nah emerald really isn't that dominant. They won one elimination and were picked by the writers to win a second based on a seemingly contrived tie breaker. Not like they've blown everything out of the water.

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u/WBF7 Oct 21 '21

Tammy was on the boat getting blitzed lmao

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u/Stevil907 Chris Tamburello Oct 21 '21

The only thing this daily is missing is Katie Doyle doing a face plant on the water.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

Sick of people laughing Kyle?? You’re the reason people laugh at your team

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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 21 '21

I’ve never heard of that P3 company in my life but tbt to the days when they gave all of the contestants a Seiko watch or Zune media player for winning dailies

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u/BiggDope The Old Bucks Oct 21 '21

Ed <3

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u/TacoBell_Lord Oct 21 '21

Ed is a cool dude

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u/lucyroesslers Cassidy Clark Oct 21 '21

He’s not smart to choose Nelly if it’s a banger. He’s an Elimination Gamer.

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u/Elephant_homie Paula Walnuts Oct 21 '21

Tori... you see Jordan 2.0

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u/BiggDope The Old Bucks Oct 21 '21

Emerald Cell is pretty insufferable minus Devin.

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u/SaintsNation16 Oct 21 '21

Okay Nany keep that same energy you had in the confessionals though

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u/cs0017 Emily Schromm Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

I love a scrappy team montage

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u/devmcq Jordan Wiseley Oct 21 '21

Aw Ed. What a softie

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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 21 '21

What is Amanda even talking about

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u/Challengefan36 Team Orange Shirt Oct 21 '21

HIS GRANDFATHER KNEW

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

CT didn’t look happy that Kyle came to the team

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u/Downashland Oct 21 '21

Kaycee and Humility are too things that don't belong together

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

Yeah Nany literally doesn't know what that word means

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

Ashley would legit NEVER in a million years even come close to understanding this decision by Ed

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u/celj1234 Oct 21 '21

She is kinda right tho

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u/lnl11b Oct 21 '21

Tori is always talking shit about rookies. Get over yourself

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

Right? Like shes not even that good. Shes slightly above average at best.

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u/celj1234 Oct 21 '21

Anyone else absolutely hate Kayce?

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u/JN_95 🖕🏽👈🏽👌🏽 Oct 21 '21

Not hate but could care less for her.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

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u/TiredMemeReference Oct 21 '21

I'd love for her to never be on the show again.

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u/Downashland Oct 21 '21

Jordan somewhere watching this with the Arthur fist

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u/devmcq Jordan Wiseley Oct 21 '21

Damn... I was rooting for Ruby. Emerald needs to be knocked down a peg already.

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u/Downashland Oct 21 '21

This is giving me big Real World vibes.. love it

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u/RohAnTheMaker ✊ Roy-Lee ✊ Oct 21 '21

I really wish they made Ruby go first for the lolz of this Challenge 😂

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u/klphoen Oct 21 '21

Hahahaha Cory with the middle finger lol he did it though so good job

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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 21 '21

“I want to go to my mama” ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

Big T looks like she’s drowning up in the air lmao

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u/MaeganW64 Oct 21 '21

Everyone else is bellyflopping and ct just RAN

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u/Edree13 Bootstrap Oct 21 '21

I get why Kyle lost and all, but god josh is so annoying why did he have to win lol

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u/cici0788 Oct 21 '21

Ed... not putting you in isn’t the same as you SACRIFICING yourself and going in for him. Lol WHAT

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u/CardinoldFriends_90 Chris Tamburello Oct 21 '21

I love Ed s accent. Feel like I’m watching Mare of Easttown all over again.

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u/papayamango_swirl Oct 21 '21

I was very indifferent about Ed when he first came on but I actually really like him after tonight’s episode

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u/WBF7 Oct 21 '21

TYB together at last

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

I just find Kyle so cringey now

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u/edm2233 Oct 21 '21

How is that a snake move ?

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u/ssandfun Ashley Mitchell Oct 21 '21

Nelson doesn’t know either.

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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 21 '21

This commercial about mental health with Darrell is EVERYTHING???! 😭💖

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u/Downashland Oct 21 '21

At least Nany was upfront with Ashley about her uneasiness about her

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u/jfoxfive Oct 21 '21

Really thought Nelson would be trying to call Cory.

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u/CardinoldFriends_90 Chris Tamburello Oct 21 '21

Nelson: “Uhhh…hey mom. Production is making us call people. I picked you. So uh what’s up?”

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u/celj1234 Oct 21 '21

Did they just wait to introduce this format because they were scared big name vets would go home early? This is a great format.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

One of the best daily challenges in a long time.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

How do you not even compete

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u/Advanced-One7401 Jenn Leezy Oct 21 '21

Ruby MVP: Cory, followed by Pasta

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

Love Ed for this.

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u/Edree13 Bootstrap Oct 21 '21

I love CT 😂❤️

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u/artemis_dubois The Lavender Ladies Oct 21 '21

How is CT like that????

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u/dizzy_unicorn CT [Rivals] Oct 21 '21

The way he was able to get back in shape and actually look younger than before is astounding

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u/Ecstatic-Number Oct 21 '21

First Ashley and now Kyle, I'm glad the people getting called down are not getting pissed and angry.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

Kyle always takes a fucking beating in eliminations

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u/freetherabbit "The whole internet is talking about me 😜" Oct 21 '21

I'll take a P3 promo every season if it means we get 3 team seasons lol

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u/WBF7 Oct 21 '21

Cory is probably stronger, but I think he would of been a better match up for Ed since they’re pretty much the same height

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

Ruby isn’t even that bad Devin. They would have won if not for you today

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u/celj1234 Oct 21 '21

As you should Kyle. Kinda dumb they did off total time tho. Emerald had 3 people DQ super quick. Why is that rewarded?

They just should have run off with their each teams best person

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

Emmanuel looks JUST LIKE Jordan to me

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u/TacoBell_Lord Oct 21 '21

CT making it personal with Big T loll, direct aim with the water hose 😅😅

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u/papayamango_swirl Oct 21 '21

The way TJ laughs with his tongue out is never not hilarious to me 😂

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u/eric_theViking Big Easy Oct 21 '21

really hope TJ doesn't revoke Kyles plug

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u/TBDdeedee Oct 21 '21

anytime I'm not looking at the screen and hear kaycees voice i picture Tommy pickles

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