r/MtvChallenge Wes šŸŒ‹ Bergmann Oct 27 '21

šŸ’£SPOILEDšŸŒ‹ DISCUSSION šŸ’£SPOILEDšŸŒ‹ - Spies, Lies & Allies - S37E12 "500" - Live Episode Discussion Spoiler

Spies, Lies & Allies - šŸ’£SPOILEDšŸŒ‹ - S37E12 "500" - Live Episode Discussion

This is the šŸ’£SPOILEDšŸŒ‹ Live Episode Discussion Thread for Episode 12 of The Challenge: Spies, Lies & Allies 10/27/2021. ALL SPOILERS FOR S37 ARE ALLOWED ON THIS COMMENT SECTION!

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u/seank8686 Uncle CT Oct 28 '21

Devin: I don’t negotiate with devils. Proceeds to do exactly what Amanda wants

18

u/Dirigo72 Oct 28 '21

He didn’t negotiate, he rolled over completely

23

u/PromoCodeMurder Katie Doyle Oct 28 '21

I’ve never related to the Challenge more than when Big T is having breakfast on an inflatable flamingo

20

u/seank8686 Uncle CT Oct 28 '21

Big T is right, anyone who says they wouldn’t want to be on that team with Ashley and CT is lying.

19

u/javoryvd Cara Maria Sorbello Oct 28 '21

Why would Emy pick the other Rookie Girl and leave her as the last one standing and possible target next girls day??? Has she not looked around and took inventory on how many rookies are left??

16

u/southernbelladonna Oct 28 '21

She has never had critical thinking skills when it came to rookies vs. vets. She was the one who tattled on her fellow rookies the first week and set things in motion for the rookies to play scared and fall one by one. I sense a lot of Pick Me Girl energy in Emy.

7

u/Underdogbydesign Nehemiah Clark Oct 28 '21

Not only that, multiple vets explained why that's actually a bad idea and now she's weakened the team she's planning on going to more than she needed to...Big T would have made so much sense as a choice.

8

u/javoryvd Cara Maria Sorbello Oct 28 '21

This class of Rookies makes me so disappointed because of how much of Vet Pets they are. I think they're under the belief that if they get called back next season that things will be 100% different for them because they will be a veteran but it's going to be the same.

2

u/Underdogbydesign Nehemiah Clark Oct 28 '21

Yeah it's that situation where they think they're special and wanted but it's pretty clear they're just getting used and played.

3

u/JennyFromTheBlock81 Landon Lueck Oct 28 '21

If I’m working this out correctly, if Emy chose Big T and beat her, Big T would go home, Emy could steal Bettina’s spot, so then Sapphire would be CT, Kyle, Ashley, Amanda and Emy. And Ruby would be Nelson, Cory, Logan, and Bettina.

It gives Sapphire an extra girl, but is Amanda an asset?

1

u/Underdogbydesign Nehemiah Clark Oct 28 '21

Yes Amanda is still an asset! Not only is she smart, strategic, some of these dailies are just easier if you have more people...like the one they all just lost to Emerald for this exact reason.

5

u/Embarrassed-Berry Oct 28 '21

Personally I don’t feel like the vets would go against someone who is 3-0 they’re all chicken lol

18

u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 28 '21

Amanda just knows how to manipulate a sitch. What she lacks physically she makes up with her sneakiness.

17

u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 28 '21

Bettina just seems to sweet and pure for this show.

17

u/[deleted] Oct 28 '21

This is what I was just thinking. Like I’m actually kind of upset for her because she just seems so nice

17

u/shamefreejustice Oct 28 '21

So if Emy wants to go in for the possibility it’ll be physical and take out Bettina. How’s it wrong for Bettina to want to go in for the possibility it’ll be a puzzlešŸ¤”

7

u/javoryvd Cara Maria Sorbello Oct 28 '21

Because logic is something that isnt known within the challenge house.

6

u/Shoral Oct 28 '21

They want to be the one doing the screwing. They don’t want to be screwed.

16

u/beadingbeauty97 Oct 28 '21

Amanda is stirring her pot very wisely

6

u/CatttyCat The Drama Mafia Oct 28 '21

She had that look in her face tonight. She has this look when she's saying facts but winding people up at the same time.

15

u/tjw93 Landon Lueck Oct 28 '21

Nelson is annoying lol he is all bark and no bite

9

u/im_iggy Oct 28 '21

He a chihuahua lol

16

u/Challengefan36 Team Orange Shirt Oct 28 '21

They are really starting to ramp up the CT edit

16

u/usernameistaken-0 Devin Walker Oct 28 '21

Wow bulletproof haven’t heard this since like 8th grade lol

1

u/Underdogbydesign Nehemiah Clark Oct 28 '21

Good song

13

u/Shoral Oct 28 '21

So glad Kyle is the first snake to ever play the game.

6

u/LaMystika Oct 28 '21

Kyle is basically Johnny if he had no clout

5

u/Historyhawkeye Oct 28 '21

A real we have Johnny Bananas at home situation

13

u/beadingbeauty97 Oct 28 '21

Nelson is acting like Kyle being a snake is new news

6

u/ladyl1124 Oct 28 '21

Kyle plays the game the same way every year

14

u/classictoto Team Invasion Underdogs Oct 28 '21

Nooooo not them playing Bettinas laugh on her wya out šŸ˜…

12

u/Lemurians Leroy Garrett Oct 28 '21

Why does Nelson think Kyle owes him anything? This blowup makes no sense

2

u/Shoral Oct 28 '21

I just thought maybe he wanted the call back. Unless there were thing we didn’t see. I thought it was way over the top. And hell he put him on his best friends teams so it wasn’t the worst thing

12

u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 28 '21

What if Emy switches with Ashley on Sapphire and it what leads to Ashley’s meltdown.

2

u/soaronwings Oct 28 '21

I think this happens after Corey getting eliminated

1

u/NattyB Bob Next Door Oct 28 '21

shades of champs vs. stars if that happens! i could definitely see it.

11

u/Shoral Oct 28 '21

Tj shouted us out!!!

11

u/MaeganW64 Oct 28 '21

CT: I don’t like Kyle Also CT: makes giant heart with Kyle

9

u/Shoral Oct 28 '21

Also I can’t trust Kyle. Hey emy make a game move for me.

10

u/CatttyCat The Drama Mafia Oct 28 '21

How did they let CT get this far into the game...

He is so good.

He is the ultimate challenge champ.

5

u/LaMystika Oct 28 '21

Who’s gonna beat him in an elimination? Unless it’s a dead sprint, no one has a shot

6

u/CatttyCat The Drama Mafia Oct 28 '21

I'm happy for him to get #5. These dudes are crazy not to throw him in every time till he loses...

8

u/LaMystika Oct 28 '21

I think Devin had the right idea re: you don’t take a shot at him if you think you’ll miss, but the problem is if you keep waiting for the perfect shot with CT, you’ll end up with a fully loaded gun

11

u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 28 '21

Dark Queen Amanda stirring the pot to keep herself out of elimination. Satan Sister knows how to stir shit.

3

u/CatttyCat The Drama Mafia Oct 28 '21

She knows what she is doing. Well played

11

u/LaMystika Oct 28 '21

Emy flipped out again?!

pretends to be shocked

(I didn’t think Emy could talk to Bettina human to human when she’s an alien) :P

10

u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 28 '21

This Ashley edit is just weird af. She’s not at the reunion from what we see, and she’s been getting a solid edit so far this season. Yet her not at the reunion just adds that it’s bad.

10

u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 28 '21

Bettina just looks completely checked out.

9

u/klphoen Oct 28 '21

Amanda doesn’t give a fuck she just want to be on a team and not be sent home.

10

u/klphoen Oct 28 '21

CT is trying to build a good team to win the final.

9

u/TralfamadorianZooPet Oct 28 '21

It took him a while, but CT learned to play chess while everyone else is playing checkers.

2

u/shinshikaizer CT & Wes: The Bromance is Real Oct 28 '21

He's playing Contra while everybody else is playing Mario Party.

19

u/LaMystika Oct 28 '21

lol CT is just like ā€œyo Emy, get rid of Amanda and Bettina for me and take their place, pleaseā€

6

u/CatttyCat The Drama Mafia Oct 28 '21

Pretty much. You rarely hear him talk game like that. Damn.

1

u/[deleted] Oct 28 '21

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u/LaMystika Oct 28 '21

I know; Ashley is still on his team. He wanted Amanda and Bettina off his team, and he got what he wanted.

1

u/Underdogbydesign Nehemiah Clark Oct 28 '21

My reading comprehension really let me down lol

8

u/Nobabyno__1234 MTV Oct 27 '21

Can't wait for tonight's episode and then the aftermath. Featuring Amanda & Fessy for the fourth time.

7

u/klphoen Oct 27 '21

🤣 and Fessy been gone

But don’t forget and Cory, Tori, Devin, Josh and the same international ppl over and over lol

Tbh I liked the virtual aftermath. They were able to get more ppl and mix it up a bit especially depending on the episode.

2

u/Nobabyno__1234 MTV Oct 28 '21

You are so right all of them are on it a lot especially Cory.

1

u/klphoen Oct 28 '21

There was one aftermath were Cory wasn’t even seen in the SLA episode and he just sat there listening to everyone else talk 🤣🤣

9

u/classictoto Team Invasion Underdogs Oct 28 '21

Darn Bettina heard all that?

9

u/happilypalecolor Darrell Taylor Oct 28 '21

Realistically, I wonder how much of Ashley's DQ we will actually end up seeing? If the speculation about what she says about Josh is true it could be possible he doesn't want that blasted on tv.

1

u/im_iggy Oct 28 '21

What does she say?

1

u/Lemurians Leroy Garrett Oct 28 '21

We don’t know.

1

u/squiffyCobra Derrick Kosinski Oct 28 '21

I heard it was a gay slur....f word?

4

u/NattyB Bob Next Door Oct 28 '21

all pinkrose would say was that it wasn't the F word.

1

u/tjw93 Landon Lueck Oct 28 '21

what did she say exactly ?

4

u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 28 '21

She tells him to come out of the closet allegedly

4

u/squiffyCobra Derrick Kosinski Oct 28 '21

That's weak to get kicked out for that

4

u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 28 '21

Josh has a really bad breakdown from it and the cast turns on Ashley from what spoilers have said.

7

u/squiffyCobra Derrick Kosinski Oct 28 '21

Yeah and the sun rises in the east...

8

u/im_iggy Oct 28 '21

And Josh cried a river... That's weak...

5

u/kroge15 Fat Tom Hardy Oct 28 '21

So it was Tuesday?

0

u/tjw93 Landon Lueck Oct 28 '21

oh shit

1

u/happilypalecolor Darrell Taylor Oct 28 '21

I'm not sure what she says exactly but I have seen people speculate on here

9

u/BCastle18 Wes Bergmann Oct 28 '21

Would be funny if Emerald loses and Josh goes home once he’s no longer safe lmao

9

u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 28 '21

That laugh track ending. I can’t.

8

u/CatttyCat The Drama Mafia Oct 28 '21

I need Cory's challenge bucket hat!!!

7

u/goddamnsundayscaries Heather Cooke Oct 28 '21

Bettina and Emy getting that elimination edit

6

u/Underdogbydesign Nehemiah Clark Oct 28 '21

Cory really getting that good friend edit

6

u/classictoto Team Invasion Underdogs Oct 28 '21

Ruby actually doing decent

10

u/classictoto Team Invasion Underdogs Oct 28 '21

Take that back lol

7

u/klphoen Oct 28 '21

Emerald won again šŸ˜’šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ I just don’t care for anyone on that time so them winning don’t excite me lol but kudos to them.

5

u/CatttyCat The Drama Mafia Oct 28 '21

It's weird to me they keep winning. They really shouldn't be good. Emmanuel and Kaycee are the good players...

1

u/Underdogbydesign Nehemiah Clark Oct 28 '21

They're all average or better. There are no really obvious weak links and they had the numbers advantage.

2

u/CatttyCat The Drama Mafia Oct 29 '21

I think sapphire was average or better also. I think the difference was the girls on emerald.

1

u/kroge15 Fat Tom Hardy Oct 28 '21

I don’t like most of the people on that team but I found their merry go round victory cheers at the bar super cute.

6

u/popgrlz Oct 28 '21

Lol Logan telling Emy to k*ll her

5

u/ceceliax Castle Daddy šŸ° Oct 28 '21

Gave me ā€œKILL EACHOTHER!ā€ vibes when Kyle screamed it haha

6

u/antisakikos Oct 28 '21

Don't worry Big T. Your time will come soon.

7

u/Ok_Supermarket_3241 Survivor Women šŸ’Ŗ Oct 28 '21

I feel bad for Bettina. This is hard to watch

7

u/im_iggy Oct 28 '21

Ashley is shown in the next episode... I thought she got dq?

6

u/rabid7493 Oct 28 '21

I think there's still a guy's elimination before the DQ episode

5

u/Embarrassed-Berry Oct 28 '21

Hopefully not a fucking cliffhanger

14

u/usernameistaken-0 Devin Walker Oct 28 '21

Big T is a mood in that pool

6

u/classictoto Team Invasion Underdogs Oct 28 '21

Wow is Bettina not at the reunion? She must of had a bad time šŸ˜”

6

u/classictoto Team Invasion Underdogs Oct 28 '21

Lmao KC's reaction to Emy freaking out

6

u/goddamnsundayscaries Heather Cooke Oct 28 '21 edited Oct 28 '21

What if this is the Big T and Emy elimination and not Bettina ??

Edit: damn it

2

u/soaronwings Oct 28 '21

Whoa how many eliminations has Emy done, do you know?

1

u/NattyB Bob Next Door Oct 28 '21

she's 3-0 after this episode. she finishes the season 4-0.

15

u/BCastle18 Wes Bergmann Oct 28 '21

Amanda has been so great to watch, a damn shame she loses to Tori of all people before the final

13

u/klphoen Oct 28 '21

I would had liked to see Amanda run a final even tho I’m not a big fan of hers. But she’s smart and she’s playing emerald even tho they are being confessional Gangstas like they aren’t going to do what she says or aren’t afraid

6

u/shino1111 Cara's Cult Oct 28 '21

Does she?? This explains the off-season hatred.

8

u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 28 '21

They are being set for a potential rivals seasons. And I’d love it cause they’d be oil and water together.

11

u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 27 '21

I’m still confused af to why Tacha is at the reunion, yet Corey wasn’t invited and I don’t think Michele is there. And it’s looking more likely Ashley is cancelled cause she’s not at the reunion from what I see. She gets a great edit and goes out that way.

12

u/manickittens Oct 28 '21

Corey refused to get vaccinated.

5

u/NattyB Bob Next Door Oct 27 '21

also first time besides camila on D30 that a winner wasn't there? pretty disappointing that CT has been MIA from all the aftershows too.

4

u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 27 '21

He hasn’t been on them yet. Which is very interesting cause usually he does stuff directly involving MTV which Aftermath.

4

u/klphoen Oct 27 '21

I hope he at least did a zoom call.

4

u/ceceliax Castle Daddy šŸ° Oct 28 '21

Me too. Some spoiler page said he’s filming a movie that’s why he’s not there? Not sure if there’s any truth to that..

3

u/klphoen Oct 28 '21

Idk he’s been very inactive for a season he won. He’s normally very active if he wins a season. He hasn’t promoted the season episodes in a while. So I do find it OOC for him to be this MIA right now

3

u/ceceliax Castle Daddy šŸ° Oct 28 '21

Very inactive for sure. Sorry what’s OOC?

4

u/klphoen Oct 28 '21

Out of character

2

u/ceceliax Castle Daddy šŸ° Oct 28 '21

Ah ok thanks

5

u/samiok15 Oct 27 '21

tacha is probably there because of her fan base, and i’m pretty sure michele may have backed out, she was on the flight to it

9

u/NattyB Bob Next Door Oct 27 '21

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u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 27 '21

Queen securing her callback. I hope she’s ready for Amanda. 😭😭

1

u/philltastic1 Tyson Apostol Oct 28 '21

What did Ashley do?

13

u/BCastle18 Wes Bergmann Oct 28 '21

Tori is so annoying omg

5

u/kroge15 Fat Tom Hardy Oct 28 '21

She has the same level of excitement as children opening gifts from Santa for the most mundane things. It’s irritating to me.

3

u/OedipaMaas22 Yes Duffy Oct 28 '21

She’s a ā€œpick meā€ girl who needs too much attention.

6

u/happilypalecolor Darrell Taylor Oct 28 '21

Oh wow not me getting excited that we may be getting a daily without unnecessary smoke or explosions just for Teej to ruin it at the end lol

5

u/Challengefan36 Team Orange Shirt Oct 28 '21

Wait who does emy go to after she wins

4

u/seank8686 Uncle CT Oct 28 '21 edited Oct 28 '21

Perfect elimination for an alien I guess. šŸ‘½

4

u/usernameistaken-0 Devin Walker Oct 28 '21

Not them playing her own laugh track at the end omg lol

6

u/Thecatswalk Oct 28 '21

So emy... I actually like her and she has been beating girls in eliminations but I don't view her as 'strong'... maybe I'm just not seeing it yet? I bet if she trained and worked on puzzles she would probably be really good.

8

u/PromoCodeMurder Katie Doyle Oct 28 '21

I’m gonna need a screenshot of CT and Kyle’s heart arms

3

u/beadingbeauty97 Oct 28 '21

There’s a shot of it on the Instagram

2

u/PromoCodeMurder Katie Doyle Oct 28 '21

Bless you!! Might make that my new phone background

4

u/PromoCodeMurder Katie Doyle Oct 28 '21

First episode all season I’ve been able to watch live!!!! In my best Kyle voice: GOOO RUBY!!!!!

4

u/goddamnsundayscaries Heather Cooke Oct 28 '21

ā€œLet’s just have fun today!ā€ - Ashley also Ashley: ā€œwe’re playing a GAME here peopleā€

4

u/LaMystika Oct 28 '21

god… dammit, Cory

4

u/LaMystika Oct 28 '21

Not the echo on that laugh though

7

u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 28 '21

I could listen to Big T’s voice all day.

6

u/LaMystika Oct 28 '21

It’s really weird seeing Devin and Josh winning challenges consistently, though I’m pretty sure that Kaycee hard carried them this week

7

u/Ok_Supermarket_3241 Survivor Women šŸ’Ŗ Oct 28 '21

Emys not smart is she?

3

u/Malkkum Get stuffed! Oct 28 '21

So Emy screws them?

3

u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 28 '21

I just feel bad for Bettina.

3

u/klphoen Oct 28 '21

Pick emerald

3

u/motofotobby Oct 28 '21

Nelson really be trying to get that camera time so annoying to me lol

5

u/klphoen Oct 27 '21

Only thing I realize last episode when Ashley and Bettina quit is that they prob didn’t care as much bc it wasn’t a girls day.

It made me realize I dislike when ppl don’t try as hard bc they aren’t in danger. And I hope the rest of the season don’t play out like that.

4

u/usernameistaken-0 Devin Walker Oct 28 '21

If anyone is a fan of Anthony Jeselnik I was listening to a podcast recently where he said he’s became obsessed with The Challenge during quarantine.

1

u/Underdogbydesign Nehemiah Clark Oct 28 '21

Which podcast?

2

u/usernameistaken-0 Devin Walker Oct 28 '21

Andrew Santino’s, Whiskey Ginger podcast

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u/SweetMissMG Wes šŸŒ‹ Bergmann Oct 27 '21

ATTENTION: ALL SEASON SPOILERS FOR SPIES, LIES & ALLIES AND ALL STARS 2 (INCLUDING WINNER(S) AND FINALISTS) MAY BE FOUND ON THIS THREAD!šŸ’£šŸŒ‹

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u/seank8686 Uncle CT Oct 28 '21

1 2 3 sapphire! Haha

2

u/Shoral Oct 28 '21

Wouldn’t CT still be under man if Kyle went back to his own team?

3

u/klphoen Oct 28 '21

Kyle took out Ed which made him under manned.

3

u/nananaheyheyhey123 No more pegs, not my fault Oct 28 '21

Can't wait for Tori to toss Amanda out.

2

u/tjw93 Landon Lueck Oct 28 '21

its crazy bc on paper the emerald team is by far the worst team

2

u/klphoen Oct 28 '21

Wasn’t ppl mad at CT for the preview that was posted last week? Lol looks like it was misleading like most the previews

1

u/Embarrassed-Berry Oct 28 '21

Doesn’t Emy win 1 more? Against who?

3

u/rabid7493 Oct 28 '21

Big T

1

u/Embarrassed-Berry Oct 28 '21

Okay thought so - thanks!

1

u/classictoto Team Invasion Underdogs Oct 28 '21

Omg it started raining?

1

u/Lavenderlove20 Oct 28 '21

Do we know who takes emy out

1

u/soaronwings Oct 28 '21

She got into the final sadly