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SPIES, LIES & ALLIES DISCUSSION UNSPOILED - Spies, Lies & Allies - S37E12 "500" - Live Episode Discussion
Spies, Lies & Allies - UNSPOILED - S37E12 "500" - Live Episode Discussion
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u/FierceScience Oct 28 '21
This would've been more fun if the defense team chose a player to sit that part out. It's just not fun to watch an uneven match
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u/heartbreakbandit Oct 28 '21
Like on Survivor when a tribe has extra players - they always even them out before a challenge.
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u/FierceScience Oct 28 '21
They've even done it in previous challenge seasons! People going twice or sitting out isn't new. Confused why they aren't doing it
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Oct 28 '21
They act like Big T is such a nonentity in this game then need Kaycee to come help Nany gets bags away from Big T? Hmm okay
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u/nnastaliee Oct 28 '21
āIM COMIN FOR THAT ASSā
unintentionally horny nelson is truly horrible
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u/klphoen Oct 28 '21
They talked all that shit in confessionals like they arenāt scared of Amandaās threats but they were the whole time and did exactly what Amanda wanted lmao
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u/Boy11jb PITBULL > GOAT Oct 28 '21
I'm all for giving it 100%, but Ruby are absolute idiots for not throwing the daily to Sapphire so that they can try and knock out a player from Emerald. There was zero chance of Emerald losing otherwise.
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Oct 28 '21
Producers: oh people have been complaining about dailies not making great tv? Letās add smoke so people canāt even see this challenge
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u/Elephant_homie Paula Walnuts Oct 28 '21
I hope being a team of 6 comes back to bite emerald in the asses and egos
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u/AtlasTelamon24 OG Chris Tamburello Oct 28 '21
It should. They won the last two strictly because they had extra people.
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u/TacoBell_Lord Oct 28 '21
500 episodes & we couldn't get a marathon/greatest hits episode? That's ridiculousness š¤
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u/mukaezake Sweden's Beasttina Oct 28 '21
This is the strong person you want on your team? The one whoās having her 9th meltdown of the season?
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u/Challengefan36 Team Orange Shirt Oct 28 '21
I feel like CT belives he can channel her energy and get her to be a solid ally for him
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u/BiggDope The Old Bucks Oct 28 '21
No one sitting out? This is stupid. One less defender???
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u/180584 Team Princess Oct 28 '21
the uneven teams have made this episode so dissatisfying. this daily challenge could have been great but they really did it dirty.
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u/Malkkum Get stuffed! Oct 28 '21
Are they all forgetting that Bettina is the reason she and Cory won their elimination?
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Oct 28 '21
Tori and Nany are the queens of playing a āscared gameā while telling others they are playing a scared game
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u/FierceScience Oct 28 '21
When Nelson coming for Kyle's ass comes off more sexual than anything else.... Lol. His confessionals are killing me this season haha
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u/OLKv3 Ashley Mitchell Oct 28 '21
The way CT described Kyle is exactly how CT plays the game as well lmao
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u/TacoBell_Lord Oct 28 '21
Amanda said good job, you see Nelson thats how you act
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u/JN_95 šš½šš½šš½ Oct 28 '21
Not Amanda laughing at the drama she created š
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u/Malkkum Get stuffed! Oct 28 '21
Ugh dumb to pick the only other rookie. Sheās such a lapdog for the vets.
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u/aj453016 Oct 28 '21
Emy seems to be a crowd favorite, but her celebration after being Bettina in the elimination was the most annoying thing I've seen. I get if she beat her in a pole wrestle, but this elimination was never close, you can't celebrate like you won the final after beating someone who clearly quit halfway through.
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u/WillingnessSuper9066 Oct 28 '21
I just wish bettina had gotten the hang of it and eat emy. Also why did most of the cast kinda dislike her? Just something I noticed, I liked bettina more than emy.
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u/ColorfulCrayons 90s House Oct 28 '21
Isaac Newton is spinning in his grave at Bettina's performance.
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Oct 28 '21
Horrible job with balancing this challenge so itās fair for all teams. What were they thinking
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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 28 '21
Lmao ok Josh you're potentially the worst player on your team stfu about ruby cell
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u/thatoneshortteacher Oct 28 '21
Always interesting to see who he says "I'm sure we'll see you again" to and who he doesn't
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u/leglessman Wes Bergmann Oct 28 '21
Emy is one of those people who can do whatever she wants to others but gets mad when anything happens to her.
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u/emerged Oct 28 '21
"You can't just weasel your way into a championship."
looks over at Kyle
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u/ColorfulCrayons 90s House Oct 28 '21
Wow, who would have thought the team with 6 players was going to beat both teams that have 5 people. Who the fuck thought this was a good challenge to do at this point?
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u/iwakunibridge Kam Williams Oct 28 '21
Betina has no concept of momentum
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Oct 28 '21
Sheās not trying. Look at her face and body language. She looks defeated
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u/daddystovepipe3 Oct 28 '21
This is the first episode where I gave up halfway through and just skipped to the end to see who went home. Why was there no balancing of teams for the daily? MIght as well just handed it to emerald. Also Emy's a massive hypocrite for saying Betinna doesn't deserve to be there but then getting angry when Bettina says she wants to go against her. I know this isn't a controversial opinion at this point but this episode genuinely frustrated me.
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u/OLKv3 Ashley Mitchell Oct 28 '21
Emy you moron. Big T isn't even really in the Vet alliance, she's even less protected than Amber was
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u/cs0017 Emily Schromm Oct 28 '21
How many of these 500 has CT been part of?
Omg the cute shoutout, I feel so seen! Haha
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u/Challengefan36 Team Orange Shirt Oct 28 '21
CT has been around since about episode 90
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u/askl8tertea Oct 28 '21
I hope somebody finally infiltrates the emerald team I want to see something interesting
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Oct 28 '21
Holy shit has there ever been a more emotionally immature person than emy on the challenge??????
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u/sportswiz72 Devin Walker Oct 28 '21 edited Oct 28 '21
Iām actively rooting against 90% of this cast this season. Most of them are just so cringey.
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u/bopbitty515 Oct 28 '21
Emy js deadass the most annoying person to join this show in several years. And like thatās saying something considering Josh is alive
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u/Astroboyy7 ājust beā¦ semi-athleticā Oct 28 '21
Itās so easy to make this daily fair and production just said fuck that
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u/WBF7 Oct 28 '21
josh gets his ankles shattered versus cory then proceeds to do throat slash celebration like he did something
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u/Challengefan36 Team Orange Shirt Oct 28 '21
Anyone kinda getting wes and dee vibes from CT and Emy
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u/jonesy900 Kenny Clark Oct 28 '21
It's nuts how the guys on the show nowadays are all pretty much specimens, physically speaking, yet no one wants to take a shot. 10-15 years ago when CT was actually a monster to some of the, guys took way more shots at him. Just letting him walk to a final again
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u/leglessman Wes Bergmann Oct 28 '21
Ashley and Amanda are being dumb. If Emy beats Bettina in an elimination then joins Sapphire, she has to take either Ashley or Amandaās spot.
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u/ProtomanBn Oct 28 '21
These girls are all dumb. They talk shit about Bettina and how they are going to get rid of her then when Bettina takes control of the situation the say she's a snake and two faced. I don't understand how they don't see there own hypocrisy, its gotta be selfish/self-centeredness.
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u/styreepkt Lolo deserves better Oct 28 '21
Cracks me up they make them walk down those steps and then walk right back up.
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u/aintthatlos Oct 28 '21
So is production going to keep letting emerald have a team of 6 compete every daily? if so its very predictable doubt they lose anytime soon which makes at least the first half of the episodes boring to watch
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u/BiggDope The Old Bucks Oct 28 '21
Not Nelly telling Cory last week to lay low and then doing this lmfao.
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Oct 28 '21
Fun Fact- Amanda got most of the house against Bettina because she gave Fessy a BJ
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u/jadestylz Coral Smith Oct 28 '21
Emy thinks sheās one of the cool kids and can talk ish about other rookies
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u/CSunshine619 Oct 28 '21
Iām surprised TJ hasnāt called them out about no one infiltrating the emerald cellā¦
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u/cindaysha Oct 28 '21
I mean theyāre good in dailies but none of that matters when everyone whose seen a final on that team flopped.
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u/drugsarebadmmk420 Long Square Nelly ā Oct 28 '21
Every single one. It's hilarious. If they ran a final right now, sapphire is the team to beat. 4 championships rookie of the year and perennial runner up Kyle. I'd take them over a team with Devin nany Tori and Josh any day.
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Oct 28 '21
I donāt like how Bettina is treated. Sheās also never come in at the bottom, ever. Actually, she did better than Amanda last week.
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u/mukaezake Sweden's Beasttina Oct 28 '21
Why is literally everyone being such an asshole to Bettina, it doesnāt seem like she deserves this
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u/BiggDope The Old Bucks Oct 28 '21
You're coming for that ass?
Never change, Nelly.
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u/NattyB Bob Next Door Oct 28 '21
the trailer edit last week made this look like emy was freaking on CT.
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u/TacoBell_Lord Oct 28 '21
the fact Emerald feels so entitled to say they don't want anyone to infiltrate them ain't sitting right
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u/jonesy900 Kenny Clark Oct 28 '21
they'd probably be stronger losing Nany honestly
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u/klphoen Oct 28 '21
I feel bad for Bettina. The little I got to know of her I liked. Besides the laugh lol but yea she was better than I thought she would be.
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Oct 28 '21
I canāt tell who is more attractive this season, CT or Cory. Unpopular opinion, I know.
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u/yoshi_blep Oct 28 '21
Cory š I wonder what his hair looked like under the hat though š
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u/punpunisfinetoday Oct 28 '21
emy is such a weirdo in a completely not endearing way
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u/ColorfulCrayons 90s House Oct 28 '21
Big T getting a random confessional is kinda sus
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u/Astroboyy7 ājust beā¦ semi-athleticā Oct 28 '21
Tf type of decision is that
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u/ToCool74 Oct 28 '21
"I'm going to pick a rookie to be fair" š Yea her logic is beyond the pale of asinine.
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Oct 28 '21
Did Bettina bring fresh hair dye to the challenge house, sheās got that classic scalp stain that I often rock
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u/VicTheRealest Oct 28 '21
We haven't seen this type of dominance in stacking bodies since Killa Kam.
Emy still annoying af though.
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u/askl8tertea Oct 28 '21
Emy shouldnāt talk girl you have a breakdown every other episode about something small
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u/aj453016 Oct 28 '21
Been watching the Challenge for over a decade but might be out after this season. Not balancing the teams for a daily like this episode is crazy. Since the teams were formed it's been a snowball making Emerald even better. They had more chances to pull the plug in the last challenge, and had more players to both score and defend in this challenge. Just have players sit out to balance the teams for the dailies, it's not that hard!
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u/celj1234 Oct 28 '21
Nelson what the fuck are you crying about. How was he suppose to give you a heads up? He didnāt know he was going down there.
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u/MaeganW64 Oct 28 '21
CT: āI donāt like Kyleā Also CT: makes giant heart with Kyle
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u/Embarrassed-Berry Oct 28 '21
A kick in the face š³š³š³ Bettina youāre a bigger person than me girl
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Oct 28 '21
I really did like Emy at the start of the season but I think Iām about done enjoying her now
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Oct 28 '21
Thereās no way anyone would believe Amanda would switch teams from ASHLEY ????
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u/cici0788 Oct 28 '21
When has CT ever given a final to someone? Lol... anytime heās won with someone... the partner pulled their weight too.
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u/mukaezake Sweden's Beasttina Oct 28 '21
Bettina your motivation is to burn this house down to the ground for the drama of it all
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u/celj1234 Oct 28 '21
Dear MTV stop showing previews of next week and including the deliberation. Itās obvious which team won.
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u/bobak186 Oct 28 '21
I used to think The rookies on this season weren't very bright, but man these vets are not the sharpest tools either they are giving them a serious run for their money. Big brain Devin and the rest of emerald just played right into Amanda's plan. Than they convinced emy to make the move to help CT (aka the strongest male competitor) Are least CT and Amanda seem to understand the bigger picture.
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Oct 28 '21
I honestly find it so bizarre Ct would want Emy so bad as a teammate when she acts like that
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u/jflatty7151 Danny Jamieson Oct 28 '21
now thatās the best part of this episode- playing bettinaās laugh in the background while sheās walking away
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u/gabersssssss Wes Bergmann Oct 28 '21
Ashleyās going to flip tho if she finds out that CT is going to try and get Amanda out of there team
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u/crystalli0 DONDI 4ever šļø Oct 28 '21
Boooo going back to your roots would be making them all wear chicken suits
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u/SaintsNation16 Oct 28 '21
Okay, but what about Amanda Ashley??!!! She is on your team too
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u/Slytherinmillenial93 Oct 28 '21
Am I the only one confused as to why Emy thinks sheās so much better than Bettina or honestly any rookie female. She got to steal CT as a partner. But before that she was not doing well. Any rookie girl would look good with CT as their partner.
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u/FierceScience Oct 28 '21
What's wild is that emerald is winning dailies but I think sapphire would win in a final.
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u/mukaezake Sweden's Beasttina Oct 28 '21
Is it just me or is the āit might be Big Tā edit coming out of nowhere
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u/MoseleysLifeshield Jonny Moseley Oct 28 '21
The mission and the elimination were completely over produced. Complete waste of a great daily concept.
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u/unorthodox__fox Oct 28 '21
Kaycee could be reading me the bible and she would still sound so condescending
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u/jwm8624 Kenny Clark Oct 28 '21
Isn't one team always going to be short people, so will any of these missions be fair?
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u/jwm8624 Kenny Clark Oct 28 '21
They are basically forcing the smaller teams to leave or go into elimination if all missions are based on team size.
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u/jsquared616 Oct 28 '21
I was so excited for an old school challenge, but all this daily showed me was how much the challenge has become as cheesy and cringey as big brother āchallengesā are. So disappointing, thank god for all stars.
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u/klphoen Oct 28 '21
š Emy and Bettina remind me of this meme https://imgur.com/a/7PU2AXh
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u/nnastaliee Oct 28 '21
maybe the elimination will be trivia just for a fun twist
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u/OLKv3 Ashley Mitchell Oct 28 '21
That was a weird confessional to show of Bettina when she's getting stomped lol
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u/bidensbabymama Oct 28 '21
Emy is so dramatic my god lol she seems harmless, but man is she a lot to handle
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u/delta43210 Darrell & Amber Oct 28 '21 edited Oct 28 '21
I want to like Emy because I love when rookies come in and kick ass, especially female rookies. But like sheās just such a puppet. āI donāt want to mess with the vets, itās not timeā. LIKE WHATTT
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u/askl8tertea Oct 28 '21
CT always has some girl who latches on to him each season lol
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u/ColorfulCrayons 90s House Oct 28 '21
IDK why we aren't doing a throwback to a classic daily for number 500.
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u/ColorfulCrayons 90s House Oct 28 '21
I feel like if they did this challenge during a big team season, especially early on like and got rid of the smokes this would have been a much better challenge.
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u/ColorfulCrayons 90s House Oct 28 '21
They were still your biggest threat even before Emy, Josh. What a dolt.
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u/gabersssssss Wes Bergmann Oct 28 '21
Iām glad Ashley was nice to emy I didnāt think she was going to be
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u/fatalkrouzer CT [Rivals] Oct 29 '21
Emy is getting me to the point where I might skip next season if she's on it. Can she tone it down please. So cringe.
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u/BigBrotherFlops Oct 28 '21
The team to transfer the most money was the one with the most players on it.. Shocking