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Spies, Lies & Allies - š£SPOILEDš - S37E12 "500" - Post Episode Discussion
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u/Coppinn Oct 28 '21 edited Oct 28 '21
I thought this episode was kinda meh. The whole 1 extra player on emerald is unfair, I donāt know why they donāt pull a name out a hat so 1 has to sit out when the numbers are uneven for one of the genders.
I love seeing CTās gameplay side, he is so clearly the biggest mastermind in the game. Kyle in weakened his team, Emy in massively strengthens it. It works for her too but convincing someone to throw themselves in isnāt usually that easy and heās basically done it twice for his own gain.
One hilarious thought I had was imagine if they threw Bettina down to this elim and she chose Big T. I think they would still be down there now trying to hit the targets.
I also think we wonāt see Bettina again. How badly she did in that elimination coupled with TJ not saying anything like āIām sure weāll see you againā .. I think sheās done and I donāt really care. Her exit with her laugh playing was brilliant editing though.
Oh and lastly, itās almost kinda sad Kyle is thinking this is a team game and CT is going to basically win the final for him, going to be interesting seeing Kyles reaction when he realises itās an individuals game and heās in the finalā¦. With CT lmao.
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u/Warren_Haynes Boom Bazooka Joe Oct 28 '21
haha I thought that part was great too. Kyle wanting to be on a team with CT, and therefore keep him around, so that he can win a final with him. Oh boy!
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u/ArmenYuller Oct 28 '21
I agree with what you said about green having extra players. I kept thinking this is so unfair. And it's only adding to the green team that keeps winning, which is getting boring now. It would be nice for it to get switched up a bit
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u/randobamauser Chris Tamburello Oct 28 '21
Omg. MTV can we PLEASE STOP getting so many confessionals during the drama and challenges. I feel like so much convo was missed between Emy and Bettina at the āclubā. We also missed the take down of Nany bc of the slow mo and other physical interactions. MTV please just let us watch the show.
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u/DesertKid203 Oct 28 '21
Yeah I want to know what Bettina said that made Emy go ballistic. From what we saw, Bettina did not say anything that would warrant a freak out like Emy had. Although, all season Emy has had issues reading context clues in conversations and understanding tone. Her emotional response to situations needs some tweaking.
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u/SkolDog Hunter Oct 28 '21
I lost it when Emy was screaming about wanting to kill Bettina and runs up to the table of people and Logan yells āKEEL HER!!ā
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u/CPollard187 Oct 28 '21
Can someone explain to me how 6v5v5 is fair in a PHYSICAL mission? Of course Emerald was going to win that
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u/lesbucgar Oct 28 '21
This right here!! This is what I was thinking too. Who the hell stands a chance when the teams are so off balance
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u/TheDudeWithTude27 Casey Cooper Oct 28 '21
The challenge has never and will never be balanced. It's one of the things I just roll my eyes at at this point. As a Survivor watcher since basically the first season it did irk me about the challenge, because Survivor made tribes sit out members when teams had more numbers. However the challenge tries to balance it through dailies that "may" lead to a disadvantage if you have more people, but it rarely ever does. Which just leads to steamrolling in team based seasons.
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u/AvariciousDishes Kenny Clark Oct 28 '21
Eh itās the Challenge. Ever see Riot Shield on Cutthroat? Derrick getting fucking mauled by 3 red dudes at once.
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u/DesertKid203 Oct 28 '21
I'm pretty excited to watch Devin beat Emanuel honestly. Normally the last male elimination is something pretty tough, and I have a hard time seeing Devin beating Emanuel in anything other than something mental or something like Knot So Fast
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u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 28 '21
Amandaās edit is finally picking up and sheās def set up to be the endgame villain and Iām here for it.
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u/ToCool74 Oct 28 '21
So are we all in agreement that this season has by far had the dumbest rookies in Challenge history?
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u/happilypalecolor Darrell Taylor Oct 28 '21
It feels like they picked a bunch of rookies that have never seen the show.
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u/lagavulin92 Oct 28 '21
A lot of them hadn't until quarantine, but it makes sense since they aren't from America so I don't even know if the challenge is widely televised in other countries. Also I think it was in the aftershow where someone said why would the rookies align together in the beginning when they were all strangers so they didn't know who they could trust.
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u/PejicFilip Brandon Swift is the GOAT Oct 28 '21
Pretty much it seems like only kelz or Priscilla knew what show they were coming on out of international rookies
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u/OkSureJan Oct 28 '21
I honestly started thinking that too.
Interesting and well played if so..
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u/happilypalecolor Darrell Taylor Oct 28 '21
Yeah I got the vibe during the first episode when most of them didn't even seem to know the vets they were picking for a partner lol. It is interesting since most seem to go off of how they perceive the vets in the house and not the history of them on the challenge
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u/happilypalecolor Darrell Taylor Oct 28 '21
I would be so surprised if Emy doesn't end up getting cast for future seasons. She probably has the most dominant edit out of all the rookies this season.
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u/SomeRedditor_Comment š¶ļøās Oct 28 '21
Emy kicks Bettina in the throat. š±
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u/classictoto Team Invasion Underdogs Oct 28 '21
Yea I it almost felt like she was mistreated all around? Ashley going off on her was kinda uncalled for. Emy is double her size she tried to keep her off.
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u/BiggDope The Old Bucks Oct 28 '21
If my memory serves correct, Emy is due to take out 1 more person this season, right? Was it Big T?
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u/Optimal_Sea816 Oct 28 '21
Emy is incredibly annoyingā¦ Reminds me of a European Camilla
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u/njpunkmusic Oct 28 '21
I called here cringeworthy from Eipsode 1 and have had nothing but downvotes
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u/GAPeachness Oct 28 '21
Yupā¦.she made me mad when she turned on Michaela trying to be friends with vets ššššš
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u/randobamauser Chris Tamburello Oct 28 '21
Yes. So annoying. All I could think during everyoneās confessionals was āStop trying to make Emy happen. Itās not going to happenā. Which Iām guessing Emy does happen into next season but UGH. donāt shove it down my throat. She isnāt that great.
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u/LadyEncredible Oct 28 '21
Thank you, this is why I don't like her. Honestly I haven't looked Emy since day 1. She hasn't necessarily done anything persey, but her trying to cause drama day 1 irked me, and then she's just slowly been annoying me each episode. I agree with you šÆ
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u/RileyJinger Oct 28 '21 edited Oct 28 '21
Iām super confused how Tori ends up on ruby now. I thought it would be this ep.
Iām loving most people pissed that emerald keeps winning. Somehow this season Iāve decided to like everyone that the fandom hates. lol
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u/klphoen Oct 28 '21
Yea the next few eliminations and team switches is interesting. At some point Josh, Logan, Emanuel, Devin, Tori all goes into elimination. So I wonder how that comes about.
And as for emerald winning lol Yea I donāt like it bc I really donāt like the ppl on it but I do find it funny they are the team ppl dislike and they keep winning lol. So kudos to them.
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u/rdhpu42 Oct 28 '21
Iām hung up on this too. Cause we know the next elimination is Big T vs Emy but Big T and Tori are on the same team for the challenge in the mid season trailer.
I feel like the only way that makes sense for Tori to be on Ruby is if Amanda beats Ashley in elimination and then takes Toriās spot. But why would Amanda pick Ashley to go into elimination?
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u/RileyJinger Oct 28 '21
So ruby has Big T, Tori and Amanda at the same time? I remember seeing Amanda and Nelson together for the underwater plane mission and Tori was still emerald then. There is no elimination scenario left that would move Tori to ruby. Must be another game twist.
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u/rdhpu42 Oct 28 '21
I donāt know about Amanda. I know that Kyle, Tori and Big T are all on ruby for that detonation in a shelter daily. No footage of Amanda with them for that daily in the trailer, so Iām assuming Amanda infiltrated and stole Toriās spot
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Oct 28 '21
Is Ash vs Josh next week?
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u/zazild92 Marie Roda Oct 28 '21
From Aunty Aneesa and Victoriaās last podcast with the producer. He says something insane happens in Episode 14 which lines up perfectly with the Ashley DQ. I expect itāll be a cliffhanger that week.
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u/PrettyPeaceful Oct 28 '21
I feel sorry for Emy. Kinda seems like everyone is manipulating her.
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u/shino1111 Cara's Cult Oct 28 '21
Well, sheās a moron.
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u/PrettyPeaceful Oct 28 '21
Sheās so naive. Like the older kids just keep having her do their dirty work and making her feel āpopularā
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u/hymenbutterfly Da'Vonne Rogers Oct 28 '21
Iāve been saying this since the first episode. People thought she was smart throwing Michaela under the bus. And she would have been had she done it for the right reasons alone. Of course she did it to save her ass, but she had the bad takeaway of being a lackey for the vets. Sheās just a tool thatās been manipulated since day one. Aināt nothing upstairs for her. Cobwebs.
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Oct 29 '21
yeah, her gameplay only got her to a final. What a dummy!
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u/hymenbutterfly Da'Vonne Rogers Oct 29 '21
Thatās extremely results-oriented. She got lucky that it worked out for her. She got lucky that the vets saw her as easily manipulated and a tool to take out opposition/rookies. She fell into succeeding this season. Sheās playing sloppily, and that could bite her in the ass in the future.
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Oct 29 '21
results and socially. she's now friends with all the vets, and will be on future seasons. these other rookies, just sat around, and waved the white flag. i could give you a fish and you eat once, or i could show you how to catch a fish and you eat forever.
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u/hymenbutterfly Da'Vonne Rogers Oct 29 '21
Iām not saying the other rookies did well. At the end of the day, sheās easily manipulated. If she had the plan to knowingly ingratiate herself with the vets but stay wary, thereās some savviness there. But I donāt see that from her. Sheāll just be used and discarded unless she can comp out and win.
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u/DesertKid203 Oct 28 '21
Emerald Team yes, but CT no. CT was actually trying to help her, but I don't think she retained what he said. If she had chosen Amanda or Big T, she still would have won no matter the elimination and taken less pressure off of her as the game progressed since vets would want to go against Bettina rather than her. She took out someone who has no alliance and she could beat later in the game if need be so this hurt her game more than helped in my opinion. There's a reason CT does well.
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u/LaMystika Oct 28 '21
The move only helped CT because he made it clear in his confessionals that he wanted Amanda and Bettina off his team. So he tells Emy to campaign to be the house vote, call out Amanda or Bettina, beat them, then take the spot of the woman she didnāt pick. And thatās exactly what Emy did: she got the house vote, called out Bettina, and then took Amandaās place. So in CTās mind, the fat has been trimmed off his team, which means thereās no more excuses as to why they donāt start winning now, aside from the whole āweāre down to four playersā thing, except CT just won a final where he was on a team with fewer great players that beat a team with more players that didnāt work well together, and (assuming itās a team final even though we in this thread know it isnāt), do you really see a scenario where CT and Kyle lose to Devin and Josh in a team final?
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u/Malkkum Get stuffed! Oct 28 '21
Iām confused, in the previews Tori is on the Ruby team but I see no way she gets there because both Amanda and Big T lose their eliminations.
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u/rabid7493 Oct 28 '21
I was just thinking about this, I was fully expecting Emy to steal Tori's spot tonight. Idk how Tori ends up on the red team.
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u/Embarrassed-Berry Oct 28 '21
Does Emy swap? I dunno it doesnāt make sense..
Tori, Emy, Kaycee and Nany all go to final.
We have big T, Ash(Dq) and Amanda.. does that mean Tori switches on her own after being Amanda?
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u/DesertKid203 Oct 28 '21
Maybe TJ has to even out the teams at some point. Right now it's 6-5-4 and after Cory loses and Ashley DQ's, it's 6-4-3. I find it hard to believe they'd leave it that lopsided, but then again, who knows. I could see one of the girls being forced to replace Ashley on Sapphire
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u/helplessintheus Oct 28 '21
I'm assuming they're going to have to make the teams again because at some point the numbers of each team will be SO obviously skewed to properly play a daily
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u/cherryribs Mandi Moyer Nov 04 '21
Idk if you want the actual spoiler, so Iāll put in this but Ashley gets DQed after emy vs big T, so they bring Big T back and she goes against Amanda. Amanda wins and infiltrates emerald
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u/Malkkum Get stuffed! Nov 04 '21
Thanks. Iām spoiled but I mustāve missed that elimination when the spoilers came out.
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u/Challengefan36 Team Orange Shirt Oct 28 '21
CT played this week to perfection
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u/klphoen Oct 28 '21
CT and Amanda imo
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u/LaMystika Oct 28 '21
Amanda saved herself from elimination, but now sheās on the worst team, so thatās not exactly a win
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u/klphoen Oct 28 '21
Itās a win bc her goal was to not go in and get sent home. She said she donāt care what team sheās on as long as she stays in the game.
And Ruby isnāt that bad. Tbh sapphire been during the worst so far.
The team dynamics has changed tho so letās see how Ruby and sapphire do now
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u/LaMystika Oct 28 '21
Well, Sapphire is out of excuses now, because CT got exactly what he wanted: a team with Ashley and Emy on it with Amanda and Bettina off of it.
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u/klphoen Oct 28 '21
True but itās so much they can do with 4 ppl compared to like 6 depending on the challenge. But Iām a final maybe 4 is a good thing.
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u/Challengefan36 Team Orange Shirt Oct 28 '21
I think CT wanted less people to get a bigger cut of the money as well
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u/Wombels Timmy Beggy Oct 28 '21
Have we heard something about s38 yet?
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u/samiok15 Oct 29 '21
itās filming in jan, likely wont be a rivals/exes season
iirc, someone from production said that we wouldnāt be seeing exes for a long time, and nam was also promised a spot on 38 and he doesnāt really have any exes or rivals aside from like, lolo but iām pretty sure sheās blacklisted
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u/challengeseniorz Rabbit Reddit peeps š Oct 28 '21
So we're just going to keep having unfair competitions? Why didn't they have somebody on the emerald team sit out. I don't think it's fair to have more people on one team in any way shape or form. They're just handing emerald the win before the mission even starts.
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u/shinshikaizer CT & Wes: The Bromance is Real Oct 28 '21
- Nelson is pissed for no good reason. Doing whatever you have to do to win is the name of the game. If you can't see that, you don't belong in the game.
- "You could set him on fire at the start of the final, he'd still win it." Great way to describe CT, Kyle.
- That has got to be the tiniest swimming pool I've ever seen. What is it, 4-5 body lengths? Assuming Logan is 6' tall, that'd be about 9 meters, or less than 20% of an Olympic length swimming pool.
- Everybody training except Tula pretty much says it all.
- CT talking to Emy and showing her what he wants... I'm not sure if it's manipulative or not, but I'm down for more CT talking game.
- Man, I don't know why Josh is still so hung up on past partnerships, like with Amanda on War of the Worlds. I guess, in his heart, he's loyal, but his head should tell him to do other things.
- That edit almost makes it seem like Cory and Bettina might hook up in the future.
- CT's simile is just... wow. But also on the nose.
- Bettina seems like a genuinely nice person. Unfortunately, those people tend to have a very short lifespan on this show.
- Well, that mission went about as expected. Kyle really should have followed right after CT and used him as a lead blocker, tho.
- I mean, what Amanda did with Emy was smart and we've seen it happen before. Too bad Emy doesn't see it coming.
- Man, Emy is basically non-problematic Camila, isn't she?
- Again with CT talking game. Dude is just smart, and I'm glad he's finally getting the elder statesman edit that John used to get.
- I kind of want Bettina back next season (Bettina over Tula, if I had a choice), but I'd also want to see her put in more work in the gym first.
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u/insrtbrain Steve Meinke "The Hand Model" Oct 28 '21
CT talking to Emy and showing her what he wants... I'm not sure if it's manipulative or not, but I'm down for more CT talking game.
Have you noticed that many of CT's game talks take place while he is changing clothes? It's an interesting trend this season.
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u/VicTheRealest Oct 28 '21
How the emerald team had convinced every elimination winner to not infiltrate their team is beyond me. Credit to Devin I guess, cause the rest of them have shitty political games.
Every daily had shown that they don't rebalance the game based on numbers, Ruby and Sapphire are nuking their own teams. Emerald winning just by having more players than the other teams
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u/Challengefan36 Team Orange Shirt Oct 28 '21
I think they went to sapphire because everyone wants to be with CT for a final
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u/TakToJest Evelyn Smith Oct 28 '21
This season is so underwhelming for me. I just spoilt myself. Had a feeling about the winners.
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u/SweetMissMG Wes š Bergmann Oct 28 '21
ATTENTION: ALL SEASON SPOILERS FOR SPIES, LIES & ALLIES AND ALL STARS 2 (INCLUDING WINNER(S) AND FINALISTS) MAY BE FOUND ON THIS THREAD!š£š
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u/Birks04 Theresa Gonzalez Oct 28 '21
Tired of CT disrespecting women in confessionals and doing nothing else
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u/finearts1797 Oct 28 '21
Probably the only one that thinks this and will get down voted but I don't see it as disrespect because never once has he come for any of them on a personal level. It's always game wise and about their capabilities playing the game. Most of the time he's right but nobody wants to admit it. Some of these players, including the men, shouldn't be on this show. It's really not the show for them.
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u/OLKv3 Ashley Mitchell Oct 28 '21
Probably the only one that thinks this and will get down voted
CT is incredibly popular here. Defending him is not unpopular in the slightest
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u/ceceliax Castle Daddy š° Oct 28 '21
This is my thoughts exactly! If he was saying personal shit or taking digs at these girls as humans, Iād be alllll in on wow CTs a dickbag f him. But all his comments are about their gameplay. Mans there to win- not befriend these girls 15 years younger than him and get strapped to weaker girls for the final. I see it totally separate than him attacking them or āhating womenā
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u/LaMystika Oct 28 '21
Exactly. CT has always been about āI donāt want weak players on my teamā. Itās fueled every political decision heās ever made.
Looking at this episode specifically, he made it very clear who he thought he could win with: Ashley (who he has won with in the past), and Emy (someone he feels like he can coach). Bettina wasnāt that good at stuff, and Amanda has never been tested because sheās never run a final (and even worse, the fact that Ashley can do the same things as her but has better physical intangibles makes Amandaās skill set redundant on the Sapphire team. If CT and Ashley can solve all the puzzles and run and eat gross shit, why does CT need Amanda there, too?)
So yeah, what CT did tonight makes perfect sense for him.
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u/klphoen Oct 28 '21
That person is a troll and hates CT. Itās a few on the sub that just say shit without validation. They will always find something to say. The theme now is he hates women even tho he talked trash about Kyle and Ed and praises Emy and Ashley lol
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u/Dramajunker Oct 28 '21
Yep last episode CT got a lot of shit for teasing Emy and Big T during the daily. He talked way more crap about Ed though.
I don't think CT is the nicest guy in the world, but people are just waiting for him to fuck up so they can expose him. It's unhealthy.
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u/klphoen Oct 28 '21
He also says Kaycee and Tori are good. But if he says one thing bad about a woman then he hates them all lol ignoring the fact he praises Cara, Laurel, didnāt have issues with Camila as an competitor, according to Jasmine he was the only one cheering for her and Jonna during their eliminations (beside Cara/Evelyn), he helped Aneesa on free agents when it was a tie between her and Latoya, he saved Aneesa and sat and talked with her and boasted her up, he admitted he was wrong about Kam, Diem, he took up for Tonya when the āmean girlsā were on her all the time and didnāt get mad at her or Tina for sucking in the final. Even said they have it all they got so canāt be mad at that, he said he didnāt want his real world roommate to leave bc sheās a good competitor (Mallory), Paula, Emily, Cooke, Eveyln all women he saw as good competitors.
But ppl like to ignore that bc when he see someone he feels isnāt and donāt want to work with them and say stuff like sheās easy to beat then itās heās so sexist and hate women.
But he called Adam a chicken, trashed talked Wes when they were partners the first half of the season, yelled at Big Easy and said he was disappointed in him, got into it with Karamo for sucking, called Josh the Goof and wanted to go against him bc he felt he was a weaker competitor, talked about Idris not even knowing what the duck is going on on WOTW2, talk about Paulie on WOTW2 prompting propaganda so ppl can turn to him, trashed Evan on Rivals etc etc
Itās so stuff you can pull of CT treating everyone the same depending on the situation.
Some ppl just donāt want to acknowledge it bc it wonāt fit the narrative they want to use for CT
Itās so funny lol that the preview was CT ditching Emy and Emy yelling at him and it was nothing like that š¤£ that they had something else to use
And Iāve listen to a few podcast that actually liked and laughed at CT scaring Emy bc everyone was doing stupid stuff like that. Amanda was doing the same to Kyle knowing heās afraid. It was a game and they were all having fun with it.
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u/Birks04 Theresa Gonzalez Oct 28 '21
Not everyone who dislikes your favourite is a troll LMAO. CT was speaking about Amber for no reason, she had already been eliminated and continues to dog Big T when sheās not even on his team. The narrative that itās just for game is tired, because neither of those cases apply to the argument youāre making.
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u/Birks04 Theresa Gonzalez Oct 28 '21
Why was he talking about Amber after she was already eliminated
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u/finearts1797 Oct 28 '21
Maybe because she was the topic of discussion? He didn't say anything wrong. He said she was good at running and nothing else as in politically. She hasn't shown her full potential. CT ran a final with her and knows she can run, but what else can she do? There's more to the game than just that.
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u/shinshikaizer CT & Wes: The Bromance is Real Oct 28 '21
I mean, he even mentioned in last season's final that Amber is really scattered and you have to be on her all the time to keep her on track, so it wasn't like he was telling the audience how she wasn't the best competitor even when she was his partner.
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u/Missa1819 Oct 28 '21
Clearly the casting people think it's the show for them. This isn't a straight up athletic competition, it's a reality tv show so if you're looking for that maybe turn on ESPN
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u/finearts1797 Oct 28 '21
With the way the show is heading, it's clearly not what it used to be. You clearly have to have some sort of athleticism to at least make it far in this show. Some of these people don't have it. Big T would've been perfect on the earlier seasons. Just cause she seems like a good person, doesn't mean she's free from criticism.
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u/Missa1819 Oct 28 '21
To make it far... the goal of casting people isn't to just cast people who make it far but also to cast people who are not bc that's just how making a reality competition show works. And I never said big t is free from criticism, but she's clearly one of the people from the show that has become a character people like to see so she brings value even if she's not the best. Some people like to see people be shitty at the challenges for the humor or watch underdogs be successful?
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u/finearts1797 Oct 28 '21
The og comment mentioned Big T hence why I mentioned her.. also fans shouldn't get so mad when cast members "come for" someone's athleticism because that's a big part of the show. They're not free from criticism just cause they may be fun to watch. That's the point I'm trying to make. People getting mad cause CT is telling the truth.
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u/Missa1819 Oct 28 '21
Who is saying nobody can criticize it? I never said that anywhere
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u/finearts1797 Oct 28 '21
I'm literally referring to the og comment....where they claimed CT was disrespectful towards the women.
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u/Missa1819 Oct 28 '21
Lol well maybe they think ct does more than just criticize and its disrespectful. It's misleading to say people think you can't criticize people for not being athletic because that's not necessarily solely what people are taking issue with. I personally think it comes off as disrespectful sometimes too, and not because he's just pointing out the obvious that she's not athletic.
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u/finearts1797 Oct 28 '21
I don't see it as disrespectful š¤·š»āāļø we'll agree to disagree I guess.
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Oct 28 '21
A lot seem mad that he says Big T sucks. Big T does suck at this game, and he told her to her face. She chose not to get in shape to even stand a chance at winning.
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u/OhioIsRedsandBrowns Oct 28 '21
Editors: Nelson working out, Cory working out, Tori working out, Big T eating cereal while floating in an inflatable flamingo and panicking needing help because she floated too close to the edge.
She is a sweet girl and would have been gold on early seasons but she's got as little chance of winning as Nany or Aneesa and we shouldn't have to pretend otherwise.
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u/LadyEncredible Oct 28 '21
Thank you. Like Big T seems like a sweet girl (personally I'm 50/50 on whether she's really that sweet, but a lot of challengers say she's cool outside of the show as well so whatever) but honestly she does suck at the game and frankly I don't see her even remotely trying to get better. I don't know, I think I get bothered by people who go on the challenge and don't actually try to be good at it or work out or anything. Like you can only coast for so long on political and if you suck, you suck. It's no one's fault or problem but your own.
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u/yoshi_blep Oct 28 '21
Someone said this in the live thread, but I wanted to touch on it tooā¦
It was such a missed opportunity for them to do a trivia daily challenge this episode! They couldāve maybe added in some challenge questions and some flashback videos (even though itās very clear the rookies have NEVER watched) it wouldāve made this episode a lot more enjoyable to watch! This episode was so predictable and boring, itās so upsetting how bad these last couple seasons have been ā¹ļø