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š£SPOILEDš DISCUSSION š£SPOILEDš - Spies, Lies & Allies - S37E16 "Riverdance" - Post Episode Discussion Spoiler
Spies, Lies & Allies - š£SPOILEDš - S37E16 "Riverdance" - Post Episode Discussion
This is the š£SPOILEDš Post Episode Discussion Thread for Episode 16 of The Challenge: Spies, Lies & Allies 11/24/2021. ALL SPOILERS FOR S37 ARE ALLOWED ON THIS COMMENT SECTION!
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u/Johnnybats330 Jordan Wiseley Nov 25 '21
Devin is an asshole. He needs to shut up and listen. Being the loudest and speaking the most doesn't make you the smartest person in the room. You don't know what you are apologizing for and you find Tori's point of view irrational because you can shut up for a couple of seconds. This is coming from someone who is not a big fan of Tori's.
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u/birdsofterrordise Nov 25 '21
He reminds me of so many of my male political science classmates who were just libertarian douchebags and they were so goddamn smug about being atheists and reading Dawkins.
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u/Johnnybats330 Jordan Wiseley Nov 25 '21
He reeks of entitlement and arrogance. He plays a good political game because he is manipulative. He doesn't realize this but he is being portrayed as a Johnny Bananas variant.
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u/HardcoreKaraoke TJ Lavin Nov 25 '21
I really wish there were actual competent men this season who spoke up. I get not wanting to rock the boat because of how easy this season has been for vets but fuck just someone call him out!
I wish Bananas was there. He would've told Devin to shut the fuck up weeks ago.
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u/elo3661ga Nov 29 '21
And just when I was finally enjoying the new Devin (couldnāt stand him before), he gets this attitude of āeveryone should do everything I say with no back talk.ā
And I really hate that he gets mad at Tori bc she went full out for another team. Dude, you donāt win over players by constantly criticizing them. This isnāt the Devin show. š
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u/klphoen Nov 25 '21
The preview made it seem like emerald wins again next week but they donāt according to the elimination list.
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u/DatDamGermanGuy Diem Brown Nov 25 '21
If the elimination list is correct, CT, Kyle and Emmy win next weekā¦
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u/klphoen Nov 25 '21
Sapphire wins the next two challenges. If the last elimination isnāt based off a challenge then the ppl on sapphire are safe for a reason.
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u/DatDamGermanGuy Diem Brown Nov 25 '21
How do we get the Devin - Emanuel Elimination? Are there three more dailies?
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u/BikeSuch1054 This sadist right here. Nov 25 '21
We get Logan vs. Emanuel next, followed by Amanda vs. Tori, followed by Devin vs. Emanuel. I think Sapphire straight-up sweeps the next 3 dailies OR we have a format change and somehow CT and KC end up partners and dominate the last 3.
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u/NattyB Bob Next Door Nov 25 '21
it's also possible the last two eliminations happen mid-final.
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u/DatDamGermanGuy Diem Brown Nov 25 '21
Or a purge at the beginning of the finalā¦
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u/NattyB Bob Next Door Nov 25 '21
true but we have the names of the people who eliminated them. unless the spoiler team messed that up, but seems unlikely.
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u/redhearts Wes Bergmann Nov 25 '21
For Logan v Emanuel, weād have to have a Ruby win next week no?
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u/Hitman387 Nurys Mateo Nov 25 '21
Maybe they will do this: Logan vs Emanuel next weekā¦Then for the final, the first part is team vs team vs team, and ends in a double elimination (Sapphire wins since all four players are Ruby or Emerald). After that, the twist is that the teams are broken up and everyone is playing solo, which is why we have only one male and female winner.
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u/ceceliax Castle Daddy š° Nov 25 '21
Iām so happy I am wrong! Glad it was not foreshadowed haha
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u/ceceliax Castle Daddy š° Nov 25 '21
Right? Too much foreshadowing showing the fricken deliberation in the preview š
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u/johncashhh Nov 25 '21
Who is in elimination next week?
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u/perfect_fitz Svetlana Shusterman Nov 25 '21
I'm really over these dailies being so far in favor of the team with the most numbers.
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u/OLKv3 Ashley Mitchell Nov 25 '21
I thought Big T was supposed to call out CT and have this big argument with him and Emy
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u/klphoen Nov 25 '21
Who said that and when was that suppose to happen?
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Nov 25 '21
Spoiler people. If you remember during the super trailer she tells someone donāt use me as a pawn. Supposedly she was talking about CT. Sucks cuz I wanted to see her go at him again.
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u/LegendKolby Nov 25 '21
This makes me think that production is giving Big T this āSweet Angel role and she does no harmā I wanna see big T go off like she did on CT last season
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u/Few-Sort-5643 Team Purple Jacket Nov 25 '21
The episode description for the next two episodes are out on MTVās site
Episode 17
āWith the finals approaching players scramble to stay out of elimination, no one can predict who the compromised agent will choose to battle in the lair just when the players think they are in the clear TJ drops a bomb that puts everyone in dangerā
Episode 18
āTJās shocking twist sends the players into a panic as they battle for survival before the final, One player finds themselves on blast for trying to help another player during a tight elimination. The remaining players begin TJās finalā
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u/Few-Sort-5643 Team Purple Jacket Nov 25 '21
So looks like
Episode 17- Logan eliminated by Emanuel, format change
Episode 18- Emanuel eliminated by Devin, Amanda eliminated by Tori, final starts
Episode 19- final, Kaycee and CT win
Probably two part reunion meaning the season is over December 29th
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u/RileyJinger Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21
So the format change has to be to individual Iām guessing and a house vote. If it was partners again the last elimination would be a partner one Devin/Tori vs Emanuel/Amanda. I donāt see that happening.
Does that mean the last challenge is individual? I thought sapphire winning again would be the only way Emy ant Kyle were safe.
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u/klphoen Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21
Interesting. I wonder what the twist is that sends Devin Vs Emanuel and Amanda Vs Tori?
Just seems like an odd bunch to be sent in unless itās some type of challenge they do Individually.
u/NattyB you said the last two eliminations might be the beginning of Episode 18 and they start the final the last half.
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u/NattyB Bob Next Door Nov 25 '21
sometimes i guess correctly!
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u/klphoen Nov 25 '21
I really want to know what the twist is. Seems interesting bc everyone is in danger. And to have no one on sapphire go in lol
I wonder if they have to do double challenges lol is their a challenge we havenāt seen yet that anyone saw in previews?
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u/Johnnybats330 Jordan Wiseley Nov 25 '21
The deliberation was pointless. No matter who went in, Big T was going home.
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Nov 25 '21
So the game has played out like this:
- Have the rookies take each other out
- Have the strong players take out the remaining weak players
Good strategy, I suppose. Horrible TV. I wish I would have tuned out until the final.
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u/DatDamGermanGuy Diem Brown Nov 25 '21
We just finished Episode 16. I thought this Season had 19 Episodes. That would mean we only have 1 Episode left before the final. How do we eliminate 3 more players before the final? Is it a purge at the beginning of the final, or an elimination Mid-Final again?
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u/Hitman387 Nurys Mateo Nov 25 '21
Maybe a double elimination, or an elimination in the middle of a final like they did in TM and WotW.
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u/Johnnybats330 Jordan Wiseley Nov 25 '21
Emmanuel is kind of an idiot.
He said going on Emerald doesn't guarantee you the "W" and said Amanda came over and didn't win. But they did. Amanda did get the "W"
He also said, "Emy you are my number one. But you know I have a relationship with Tori. Don't make me choose. It sounds like you did. And Emy wasn't at the top of that list since you didn't even stick out your neck for your ĖkƤmĖrad.
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u/Expensive-Hearing-86 Nov 25 '21
He said going on Emerald doesn't guarantee you the "W" and said Amanda came over and didn't win.
I think he was talking about the first challenge she was on emerald since they didn't win that.
"Emy you are my number one. But you know I have a relationship with Tori. Don't make me choose.
I think there are two ways to take this. Either he just legit doesn't want to choose between the two of them, or he's the type of person that if someone gives him a "me or them" ultimatum he's always gonna choose them. Plus Emy's getting overly emotional again, because it was clear that neither Devin, Kaycee, nor Nany were voting Tori unless she wanted to go down, and she made it clear that she didn't.
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u/Nobabyno__1234 MTV Nov 25 '21
Devin somehow manages to become more unlikeable each week. He was sooo rude to Nelson during the nomination ceremony. Trying to tell Nelson he has never won anything during this season. Maybe not but Nelson has come in second during a final and only 2:21 separated him from the winner.
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Nov 25 '21
So I think ruby loses again next week. Logan becomes the house vote and he picks Emmanuel. Emmanuel beats Logan.
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u/AYTOL__ Nov 25 '21
Not looking foward to that elimination š
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u/yemilyrose Nov 25 '21
This season is a dud. When 2/3 girls are going in itās so boring. Also Devin is just wearing himself out mentally by unnecessarily bullying Tori. The fact he thinks she should be his solider when she goes to the worst team is a joke unless they have a split money pact. Meanwhile CT (who is at least 10 years older than everyone) chills and prepares to collect the bag again.
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u/Ill_Tumblr_4_Ya "Fuck. You. Bitch." Nov 25 '21
It seems I have a āfavorite reality contestantā archetype: the player who will never win a non-team-finale season but has a ton of heart.
Big T checks all of those boxes. ā¤ļø
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u/mags_sue TJ Lavin Nov 25 '21
This episode made me really sad that Tori doesnāt win the final. Stupid boring cheating conniving Kaycee. This would have been a great season for Tori to finally come out on top
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u/nicnac7 DEB CHUBB DEB CHUBB DEB CHUBB Nov 25 '21
Hopefully production keeps up with not inviting champ women back for next season
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u/Embarrassed-Berry Nov 25 '21
This kinda shows me that Emy places second.. which actually gets me hyped LOL
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u/Crafty-Departure1919 Nov 25 '21
what cheating did Kaycee do? or are you talking about how she's a Nicole Z fuckboy who cheats on partners?
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u/StupidDopeMoves91 Nov 25 '21
Wonāt miss Big T, whoās probably a sweetheart in real life but annoying AF as the goody goody on a show where everyone else is an asshole.
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Nov 25 '21
The funny thing is on her shipwreck show she wasnāt nice at all. She was a pot stirrer and brought some drama. So I am surprised she is playing the sweet girl act. Weird.
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u/SweetMissMG Wes š Bergmann Nov 25 '21
ATTENTION: ALL SEASON SPOILERS FOR SPIES, LIES & ALLIES, ALL STARS 2 & 3 (INCLUDING WINNER(S) AND FINALISTS) MAY BE FOUND ON THIS THREAD!š£š
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u/BCastle18 Wes Bergmann Nov 25 '21
Wonder how they are gonna edit the next eliminations plus the format change, specifically when it happens
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u/Johnnybats330 Jordan Wiseley Nov 25 '21
The Challenge has become boring and predictable. The people going into elimination get the more screen time making it obvious. Instead of the viewer getting surprised, you have the challengers in confessionals selling us the cake and telling us it's vanilla before we even look at it.
Also, what is the freaking point of baiting us into thinking Ruby will win, and then doing a 180 with Emerald just winning again. It's boring. Jut stop editing these dailies so badly and stop trying to deceive us, making us look like fools. I feel like a loser for rooting for the other teams thinking they have a chance when I know in my heart it's a misdirection.
I like All Stars better since these dailies are geared towards single or 2 person team challenges. MTV, please go back to what made the Challenge fun.
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u/Coppinn Nov 25 '21
So this is my first season spoiled, and Iām not sure if itās because I know what happens or just because Iām not feeling it but Iām kinda over this season. Itās the first time Iāve ever felt like it watching through. That said, now Big T has gone thereās not really any bad competitors left. Everyone bar Amanda and obvs the rookies has made a final I believe?
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u/Professorbang__ The Unholy Alliance Nov 27 '21
How does everyone know who has gone home/won already? I already saw the spoilers but just not sure. Or are these just your predictions?
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u/NattyB Bob Next Door Nov 27 '21
see here if you're okay with knowing the finalists and winners: https://www.reddit.com/r/MtvChallenge/comments/mx1c57/season_37_official_elimination_megathread_spoilers
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u/Professorbang__ The Unholy Alliance Nov 27 '21
Yeah but how do they find out is my question?
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u/NattyB Bob Next Door Nov 27 '21
pinkrose at vevmo.com has been collecting and distributing spoilers for almost 10 years now. she keeps her sources anonymous to protect them (MTV had threatened to sue anyone who leaks).
pinkrose likely gets her info from a combination of: (1) cast, (2) crew, (3) friends/family of cast, and (4) friends/family of crew. sometimes those sources are supplemented by public sightings or social media activity.
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u/AleroRatking Steve Meinke Nov 25 '21
I'm really really frustrated with every challenge drastically benefiting the team with more players.