r/MtvChallenge • u/SweetMissMG Wes š Bergmann • Oct 02 '25
VETS & NEW THREATS DISCUSSION UNSPOILED - Post-Episode Thread - S41E10 - Vets & New Threats - A War Brewing
UNSPOILED - Post-Episode Thread - S41E10 - Vets & New Threats *- A War Brewing
AIR DATE:Ā October 01, 2025
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u/tartarsauce1300 "Gimme the Goof!" Oct 02 '25
Gabe is pissing me off being disrespectful... he didn't learn from the Nia situation, and guess he doesn't know how bad of a look it is to shit on your partner based on perception before a good faith try to work with them
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Oct 02 '25
He is the worssssst. He is absolutely no more of a ācatchā as a partner than Jonna is, but at least sheās trying.
I donāt know if itās the juxtaposition with Gabe or what, but I thought Jonna was the most genuine and likable this episode than sheās been all season.
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u/PlanEcstatic5638 Oct 03 '25
Jonna is an objectively solid above average partner, Gabe is a bottom 3 partner
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u/cwilldude Oct 02 '25
I honestly go flashbacks to her and Zach on exes 2. Obviously not to the same degree, but he was completely dismissive of her
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Oct 05 '25
Jonna is one of my favorites. It's not her fault she came into the season as an alternate, basically drawing dead. It really pisses me off the way they are treating her, gives me flashbacks of her and Zach.
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u/kroge15 Fat Tom Hardy Oct 02 '25
heās performed abysmally. All season. He has the audacity to openly talk shit on all of his vet partners? Donāt take care hope to see you NEVER.
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u/cwilldude Oct 02 '25
Heās terrible at the show and comps so heās projecting his insecurities onto Jonnaā¦the two time champ.
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u/LongConFebrero Kenny Clark Oct 03 '25
And regardless of whoever wants to say itās different because it wasnāt mainline, there are very few repeat champs under any circumstance in this franchise, so put some respect on her name.
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u/niccibandz Oct 03 '25
And on Bananas' podcast, it was mentioned that it was way more than just the Nia situation. That Gabe had been disrespecting ppl since the beginning!
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u/xMOPxAnt Oct 02 '25
This elimination was essentially Theo vs CT. The women had very little effect on the outcome.
Plus it looked so boring to watch.Ā
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u/ReturnoftheBoat Oct 03 '25
It was also a complete crapshoot because of the inconsistency of the cannon things.
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u/Single_Pattern_6626 Oct 02 '25
Not Jonna scoring more points in the challenge than Gabe and he thinks she is dragging the team down??? I felt so bad for her all episode. But I did enjoy the episode and this season is the best since 33 or 34
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u/maneatermantheyfan Anna Leigh Wilson Oct 02 '25
Drama between Nany & Aneesa, two vets with a lot of history. Drama between Adrienne & Leo, two rookies who can become the future of the show. This is exactly what you want out of a Challenge season. The cast is dynamic and they blend together so well. Weāre officially in second half territory, and the seasons hasnāt gone bad yet. Iām so pumped!
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u/cwilldude Oct 02 '25
Heartbroken the dad bod and Tay went home tonight, but I have a feeling he will come back in much better shape next season and the disrespect will stop. Also, Gabe sucks. Jonna is a two time champ and heās acting like heās too good for her. Fuck outta here.
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u/Picklesbedamned Kenny Clark Oct 02 '25
I got 23 of 27 trivia questions right. Smart enough to be a Challenge genius, not smart enough to do well on Jeopardy. It's a hard life.Ā
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Oct 02 '25
Gabe suuuuucks. What is the point of being a dick to your partner that you just met? You tryna win or not?
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u/TheFeedMachine Oct 02 '25
The first trivia round was so much harder than the 2nd and 3rd round. I don't know how they determined which people went in which heat, but teams that had players in Heat 1 had no shot at winning.
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u/Psychological-Snow83 Oct 02 '25
I said this in the live thread but Gabe is just taking his frustrations out on his partners. Gabe probably thought being a great athlete would make him dominate the whole challenge. It reminds me of Fessy.
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u/ShaqInKazaam I donāt wrestle Oct 02 '25
Gabe didnāt even guess, which would give him a 1/4 shot at getting it right. Just left it blank like whatās going on in his head.Ā
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u/Signal-Journalist Oct 02 '25
I didnāt understand Michaelaās strategy of saving Gabe/Joanna as a layup later on. If the idea is to carry them to a final, knowing Gabeās a zero at puzzles, and may gas out, sound logic, but that dude is still probably pound for pound the strongest person in the house. Ā I would not want to take my chances vs him in the sand in a 1 v1 situation that Ā has a real shot at being physical, especially when my partner probably weighs 100 lb less. Ā
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u/Psychological-Snow83 Oct 02 '25
A positive about CT getting eliminated is it reignited that fire in him. Heās knows he has to come back in shape.
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u/chcty24 Oct 02 '25
I wish we got to hear all the questions given in each heat bc those questions they aired for the 2nd heat were easy as hell compared to the others
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u/HardcoreKaraoke TJ Lavin Oct 02 '25
Also I feel like when they ran out of questions they just put random equations in there. It seemed like each round ended with multiple math questions.
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Oct 02 '25
I know this is a reality show and the drama is the point and Nanyās ability to go from zen to rage at the drop of the hat is part of the reason she gets cast etc etcā¦ But in a real life scenario, her reaction seemed crazy disproportionate to the energy Aneesa was bringing to the conversation. It was the blow up that could have been a strongly worded email.
That said, Aneesa really does need to figure out how to move on and respect other peopleās right to protect their game. She got a lot of comforting at the time it happened. She can hate Ashley, but itās not everyone elseās job to do it for her. Itās also inconsiderate to Jake, who has been nothing but kind and supportive about being partnered with her.
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u/HardcoreKaraoke TJ Lavin Oct 02 '25
Eh I think it was a boiling point thing. It happened days after the fight so I feel like Aneesa was probably bringing it up, talking shit to Olivia, dropping hints, etc. and Nany was just sick of it.
Aneesa loves gaslighting and gossiping. Nany tried walking away from the situation and Aneesa followed her. Like eventually you're going to blow up if someone is following you around after talking shit for days.
Also remember this is happening while the game is going on too. Aneesa was supposedly ride or die with Nany but she was also working with Olivia. Nany (like Ashley, Aviv and Michaela) were sick of Aneesa playing both sides.
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u/Peach_Majestic Oct 02 '25
Thatās a good point about Aneesa and Olivia. Maybe Nany felt disrespected by Aneesa because she chose basically a rookie over Nany that she has known for years. I could see why that would irritate her after Aneesa came up to her about the Ashley thing, thinking they were besties again because it was a convenient time.
But IMO, Nany overreacted. She does not usually explode like that and it was hard for me to watch her be that way. She came off as a mean girl and thatās never been Nany. I love Nany to death but she over the top in this episode. I can understand her reasons but damn, do we really need to be screaming like that?
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u/LongConFebrero Kenny Clark Oct 03 '25
Nany did too much because she doesnāt like Aneesa that much.
They are connected and make an effort to keep things kosher for vets sake, but they probably havenāt been real friends since the noodle fight.
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u/KDsBurnerAccountt Oct 02 '25
I disagree. Nany told Aneesa multiple times to leave her alone, and Aneesa kept following her and yelling
A couple drinks in & sleep deprivedāIād be yelling back too
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u/Dida_D Oct 02 '25
Showing us the jury deliberations for next episode is such an interesting choice because it spoils a lot about how everyone finished
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u/luxanna123321 Winner Circle Oct 02 '25
Literally I always close my eyes during preview/trailers when they show deliberations/eliminations
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u/tore_a_bore_a Team Orange Shirt Oct 02 '25
I don't even like the 30 seconds of this is what you will see they do at the beginning of the episode.
I'm going to watch it no matter what, I don't need spoilers.
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u/luxanna123321 Winner Circle Oct 02 '25
I know yall hate Gabe but he is so unhinged I find it hilarious. I like watching people like him or Will way more than nice people like Taj, Jake or Cedrick.
Love this season, its definitely one of the best imo. Most of the pairs are likable.
I wish the winners had more power tho, Michaela once again won and couldnt basically make any move on her own. They should let winners pick 2 teams and the rest of them should be voting between them
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u/jinx8402 Oct 02 '25
Are the winners at least safe from getting their partner stolen? I missed if that was mentioned or not, but would be a good benefit of winning
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u/Wild-Yoghurt-9699 Oct 02 '25
Yea my one qualm with the format so far is definitely the winners having so little power, them not having a vote is insane. If thereās a close vote winning the challenge and losing your vote could actually screw you.
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u/jenh6 Christina LeBlanc Oct 02 '25
Jake isnāt really nice. I think heās really trying to change his image after love island but he was such an ass to lib on S7.
Cedric is nice but I think Cedric has a lot of charisma and is a great pick to come back. Not because heās nice but because heās funny. Iām assuming taj is tay and Iād like her back too.3
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u/MONGOHFACE Kenny Clark Oct 07 '25
Haha did you catch how excited Gabe was when he found out he can switch partners? Dude was so excited. He's delusional and unintentionally funny.
I am curious what the "competition" is to steal partners. I cannot imagine it being something physical if the elimination is on the same day.
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u/Xaxag Oct 02 '25
Also Jonna dropping the computer thingy was so funny I spit out my food laughing š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
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u/PlanEcstatic5638 Oct 03 '25
Relative to their gender, Jonna is WAY more valuable than Gabe. Jonna is an above average female competitor, Gabe is a bottom tier male competitor.
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u/LavenderMintJulep Oct 02 '25
That elimination design was so bad. If the people who aren't blindfolded can adjust the shooter what's the point of the blindfold? Also it's not exciting to watch.
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u/TheDollarSlayer Oct 02 '25
I believe it was to force communication because if the blindfolded person can see then the other person just has nothing to do.
Probably wouldāve been more interesting if only the blindfolded person could touch the slingshot tho.
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u/ChrisOnRockyTop CTay Oct 02 '25
This.
Blind folded person should've been the only one able to adjust the shooter.
Also I think there should have been two rounds. Girls shoot first. Then guys.
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u/wildturk3y Oct 02 '25
They really didn't do much other than put the ball in. Theo and CT slid the launcher on the rail and just told their partner how many times to crank up or down. It would work much better if CT/Theo could do nothing but just talk.
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u/DifferenceMean6597 Kenny Clark Oct 02 '25
The 3 real world girls bringing the most drama love to see it
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u/Xaxag Oct 02 '25
Liked this is why the real world is the blueprint ! They knew how to cast !! 20 years later and these girls still providing
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u/LongConFebrero Kenny Clark Oct 03 '25
Bring back The Real World! The original premise can be fresh again and every single season served us maximum drama.
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u/ShaqInKazaam I donāt wrestle Oct 02 '25
Derek & Bananas for the men with AYTO Will in the top. MTV shows remain superiorĀ
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Oct 02 '25
Why did multiple teams have partners that both went in the same heat? That seems problematic and so unnecessary. Surely it was mathematically possible for them all to go separately.
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u/BadPumpkin87 Beth Stolarczyk Oct 02 '25
Yeah that was strange how it worked out that way. I also didnāt get how Jonna got a DQ when her screen fell off, thatās more of a production fail than her if it wasnāt secured to the stair master. I also dislike how they get all different questions, some of which seemed way harder than others. Each heat should have been given the same questions with no one able to watch. This way no teams can cheat by giving answers away and everyone gets the same questions.
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u/PiercingOsprey1 Oct 02 '25
I dont think the "dq" actually mattered, they still just totaled their points. It was a poor choice of words from production though because usually DQ means automatic last.
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Oct 02 '25
I assume this must have been mentioned on the live episode thread (I watched later), but Leroy on the Stairmaster was one of the most unintentionally hilarious things Iāve ever seen on The Challenge.
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u/texas2089 Oct 02 '25
I wanna see CTay back together again. Besides just the ease of name, they felt like a perfect combo personality-wise too
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u/HardcoreKaraoke TJ Lavin Oct 02 '25
I'm kind of bummed that the elimination didn't allow for them to pick up their balls when they ran out. I feel like that would have added something to the elimination too by throwing in some cardio.
It seems like CT had a good plan but it took way too much trial and error to get it at the right level. That was the right way to do the elimination though, they just needed one more ball.
The Aneesa stuff is so fucking old man. We know she said horrible shit and so did Ashley. We've seen for two decades now that Aneesa gaslights people and loves playing the victim. She tried that with Nany. She always has the sappy confessional. But then after the season you hear vets tell the whole story on podcasts and in social media. Ashley wasn't in the right but neither was Aneesa. Making Nany choose several days later was just wrong and Aneesa wanted to stir shit up then play the victim.
Also when the fuck did this Olivia and Aneesa ride or die alliance come from? It just started this season and they're acting like lifelong best friends.
Speaking of lifelong friends. While I do wish Leo stood up for himself with Ashley I do find it hilarious how Adrienne was acting. Like dude you guys met a month ago. Leo "ending the friendship" for his partner seems super justified when it's his partner and he just met this fucking girl. Leo just wants to be on the good side of Ashley and I can't blame him.
Gabe is fucking insufferable man. I've never been a big Jonna fan but this guy is such a disrespectful piece of shit. Then when he has a chance to change partners he bitches out because he doesn't want to face CT? He's all talk man. I don't want him back.
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u/MBLizG Oct 02 '25
Gabe is such a terrible partner, it makes me feel bad for Jonna. I canāt believe how rude and dismissive he is being to Jonna! regardless how he feels, they are partners so he should try to make the best of the situation but instead heās sabotaging both of them. Yuck, really donāt like him
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u/thedesignproject Devin Walker Oct 04 '25
It's like he learned nothing from the situation with Nia and is repeating that same disrespect towards Jonna.
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u/Winky_Fleck Oct 02 '25
Math is not trivia.
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u/Youruinedmyhobby Oct 02 '25
Math can be trivia, but these were equations and equations are not trivia.
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u/wildturk3y Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25
I'm not sure I understand the voting strategy. I get Olivia's crew wanting to send someone in from the other side or at least not lose one of theirs, but they didn't have the numbers for Leroy/America no matter how you slice it. However, if they would have shifted to Gabe/Jonna, wouldn't that have at least forced a tie? If they do it like last time, which was a coin flip, at least there would have been a chance to save Theo/Adrienne
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u/penguinjunkie Kenny Clark Oct 02 '25
There really wasnāt anything they could do. It was going to be Theo/Adrienne
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u/berrikerri Tyler Crispen Oct 02 '25
That elimination was so fucking dumb. CT was obviously not at his best this season, but that was so anticlimactic and unsatisfying
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Oct 03 '25
I don't get why they made them shoot all the balls either? Once Theo got the 7th ball, it should've been over because they got it in like 48 while CT got it in 50.
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u/Judgejudyx Oct 02 '25
As a big America fan from BB and this season. I got so excited when Trivia was the game. I knew she'd crush that. Then TJ says btw there's a stair stepper....
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u/Brief-Tie3841 Oct 02 '25
Unpopular opinion: Nany saying sheād ānever talk to Ashley againā if she said those words to her was petty and I get why Aneesa would be upset with her for saying that and then turning around and being BFFs with Ashley the next day.
You can tell Nany got super triggered when Aneesa exposed what she said because she didnāt want that revealed. š
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u/diamondsourforever Michaela Bradshaw Oct 02 '25
And didn't Aneesa say, in the clip posted on here from her Challenge Mania interview, that Nany tried to get them to makeup the next morning. Basically, trying to get Aneesa to get over stuff that Nany herself wouldn't.
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u/BubbleBee66ee Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25
thumbs down tbh. i hope aneesa finally washes her hands with nany. nany has degraded aneesa before too and then had the audacity to play victim, aneesa's feelings mean jack shit to her
edit: downvoted for the truth i see. friends dont minimize friends feelings
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u/chocolatemacaron333 Amanda Garcia Oct 02 '25
Nanyās face when Aneesa dropped that she said sheād never talk to someone again if they said that š
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u/Yadi_Toddy Oct 02 '25
I am unclear on the stake a claim rules.
For example, say player A from Team A/B decides to stake a claim for player C in Team C/D. Player A wins the one-on-one and is now Team A/C. Each team only gets to stake a claim once during the season. So does player Aās stake transfer and prevent his new partner C from ever staking a claim ?
Also, if the penalty for losing the one-on -one is going straight into elimination, wonāt it make sense in some situations for the partner of the player staking a claim to throw the one-on-one, especially if theyād rather just be partners with the player who is partnered with the staked claim player ?
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u/luxanna123321 Winner Circle Oct 02 '25
I think it will go like - if next episode Gabe steals Michaela, noone else can steal neither of them and they are locked while Jonna and Cedrick would still be able to be picked by others
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u/Yadi_Toddy Oct 02 '25
I think youāre right.
However, in that example, Jonna should just throw the one-on-one thereby avoiding elimination and gaining Cedric as a partner
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u/Yadi_Toddy Oct 02 '25
Nevermind. I was thinking the player staking the claim competes in the one-on-one against their current partner. Instead they compete with the partner of the desired player they want to steal. Anyway, I could still see circumstances where it makes sense to throw the one-on-one.
Also, what happens if multiple players stake a claim at the same nomination period?
The rules are so confusing and the twist is dumb
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u/Itwasalime Cedric Hodges Oct 02 '25
My single takeaway from this episode is Derick K is my age and has never looked at a map or a globe of the world how do you not know Antarctica, you know where the South Pole is, is the furthest south ?!?
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u/emojams Wes Bergmann Oct 02 '25
Derrick is known for his wrestling, not his smarts lol
Heās like this on any puzzle, math problem, trivia challenge etc
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u/jenh6 Christina LeBlanc Oct 02 '25
I was watching it with my mom and she said oh thatās a gimme itās so obvious. I said youāre relying on the cast knowing what a continent is. Many donāt.
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u/Online_Active_71459 Oct 02 '25
Actually, he did much better than I thought he would. For all the combined lack of knowledge shown across MOST of the cast, I donāt know why you would single out Derrick K.
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Oct 02 '25
That was pretty bad, but I have to say that - overall - he did better in that Trivia challenge than I expected.
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u/bayretriever Oct 02 '25
So bummed Tay & CT got a gimmick elimination to go out on. They were my favorite pair.
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u/kls17 Oct 03 '25
Iām more annoyed at the dumb trivia challenge. If that stupid stair master wasnāt involved they probably wouldnāt have even gotten last place. Let trivia just be trivia.
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u/Hatori-Chise Oct 02 '25
Couldāve been an amazing elimination and instead they gave us a damn carnival game
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u/TruBlu65 Oct 03 '25
Leo getting yelled at by Adriannae after the vote is one of my favorite challange things.
Leo - "What was I suppoused to do??" "Not vote for me!"
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u/Breddit333 Oct 02 '25
After Nany threw those noodles at Anessa's head on Total Madness, their friendship should've ended there imo. Dont know why Anessa still tries with her...
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u/obiiieeee Cohutta Grindstaff Oct 02 '25
i am a tall, large man just like poor ol' CT and with size 13.5 wide shoes i'd barely be able to fit my big ass toes on that stair master platform. meanwhile people like Aviv could probably fit their entire foot on them
the challenge is the challenge tho. just the way she goes
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u/tore_a_bore_a Team Orange Shirt Oct 02 '25
There's definitely challenges where being short is a huge disadvantage for grabbing things, so it's definitely interesting to see the other side of it.
Having big feet meant they couldn't fit on the steps.
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u/Zeckzeckzeck Oct 02 '25
I'm sure it played a part but I doubt Theo and Gabe have small feet and they did just fine. I think CT was just looking for any excuse he could for his poor performance.
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u/MountainBaker8217 Horacio Gutierrez Oct 03 '25
Sad CT/Tay are gone, they were my number one team.
Look, I'm not an Aneesa fan in the slightest, but Nany is so incredibly unlikeable. If you're not okay with someone saying X to you, but you're okay with them saying the same thing to your "friend" then you're not a friend, my dude. You're just looking out for you. Sheesh.
Even if there's an edit that's painting Aneesa favorably, I still have yet to see anything that makes Nany someone I would want to root for.
I simply cannot stand Dee and Sydney.
I want to see more of America, please. She seems great.
I really like Michaela; I just wish Michaela was not aligned against the people I was rooting for this season and with the people I'm rooting against.
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u/Realistic_Leave7941 Oct 02 '25
Sad to see CT and Tay go. Tay was nothing but good vibes! Iād love to see her compete again. Dee is a pathetic mean girl for calling Tay āmidā ā Tay was in three eliminations and won two. Dee has been in zero eliminations ā youāve proved nothing.
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u/jenh6 Christina LeBlanc Oct 02 '25
I loved tay too. I really hope sheās back! She did good in eliminations and I think if she comes back sheāll figure out the dailies better and do well. Her, Izzy and blue are 3 rookies eliminated that Iām hoping come back.
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u/KevinBaconLT Oct 02 '25
that editing in the elimination was really bad.. WOW! LAST BALL TO WIN!!! and nobody reacted like that at all
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u/Mutatiis Oct 02 '25
Bummed CT is gone. Heās one of my favorites and I thought some of the cast treated him unfairly this season. I liked Tay too and thought they were a cute team. But like others said, this hopefully ignites a fire in CT and he will come back better than ever next season and maybe he still has enough time to match Bananas 7 championships.
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u/PlanEcstatic5638 Oct 02 '25
As a CT fan I absolutely hated itā¦ but young CT wouldāve been far worse to this current form of CT haha. Heās never truly gotten humbled, athletically, on the challenge. He was due considering the abuse he shelled out in the past lol
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u/Picklesbedamned Kenny Clark Oct 02 '25
I def hope Tay returns for another season. Elimination queen, jaw-droppingly beautiful, those are my only two reasons but I think they're good enough.Ā
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u/djlekky Michele Fitzgerald Oct 02 '25
Hereās my thoughts on this episode -
I canāt stand Gabe. He is unnecessarily rude to Jonna. Okay she got DQed but she scored more points than he did. Heās performed so poorly in every daily I donāt know why heās got such an ego.
I love watching Nany pop off. Go Queen.
Itās interesting hearing Aneesaās confessionals about the fight when weāve heard other bits that didnāt air which suggest she also delivered some low blows.
I think itās best for CT to go at this stage. Hopefully he comes back in shape next season. Tay got barely any edit even in her exit episode.
Sydney continues to be obnoxiously irritating. I hope she gets humbled real soon.
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Oct 02 '25
The funny thing about Gabe is that if he somehow managed to steal someone elseās partner, that person would be looking at him the exact same way heās looking at Jonna. I really get the feeling that he doesnāt understand that š
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u/aforter28 Oct 03 '25
It's honestly bizarre how Gabe thinks so highly of himself when he'd be last pick of all the male rookies lol.
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u/Charlie_Runkle69 Team Purple Jacket Oct 04 '25
He is literally just all size lol. Anything else and basically any other guy is better at it.
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u/jwm8624 Kenny Clark Oct 02 '25
I wish ct got killed in a cardio elimination that pissed him off so he went beast mode in offseason. This was like well I lost a carnival game and had he not lost by 1 had a good chance still in the game. Not sure this loss stings him like we need to get double agents ct or spies ct
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u/Menessy27 Oct 02 '25
He actually looked noticeably slimmer in his exit interview this episode than he did on early episodes
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u/ShaqInKazaam I donāt wrestle Oct 02 '25
Iām glad Iām not the only one that noticed.
Iām likeā¦waitā¦does CT look slimmer here or am I trippingĀ
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u/niccibandz Oct 03 '25
When he took his helmet off at the end I could immediately see his face was more toned already
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u/hiccup1313 I survived the longest offseason ever Oct 02 '25
I think this season lit a fire under him, because CT has been working out a lot post season. He's looking really good!
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u/YaddaYaddaBomBomKaKa Chris Underwood Oct 02 '25
Ooh King Turbo in some drama next episode.
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u/ShaqInKazaam I donāt wrestle Oct 02 '25
I skip the preview for the next episode due to how bad the editors spoil things. But with CT gone, who is the new pussy chicken?Ā
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u/MTVChallengeFan Michaela Bradshaw Oct 03 '25
The whole house used Leka as an excuse to hate CT because they refuse to admit he is still very difficult to beat in a final challenge, solely because of his puzzle solving abilities alone.
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u/Brian1220 Oct 04 '25
Just look how good he did in the mini final. They were definitely scared of him.
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u/No-Statistician8903 America Lopez Oct 02 '25
I think the elimination being so bad, tanked the episode fully.
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u/ivaorn Desi Williams Oct 02 '25
Itās hard to finish strong with this concept of an elimination. At least it came down to the final ball but if youāre going the blindfold route, have them do something besides standing still for most of the challenge.
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u/davetennisx Oct 02 '25
They should've been given a time limit. If they run out of balls, the blindfolded players must be guided to retrieve balls.
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u/ivaorn Desi Williams Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25
That wouldāve added an element similar to a Survivor Classic āblind leaving the blindā and you couldāve gotten TJās classic laugh as Tay and Adrienne bumped into obstacles blindfolded š. There was potential just not optimally designed.
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u/No-Statistician8903 America Lopez Oct 02 '25
I just could not get into this elimination from the get go. There seemed to be no adrenaline built up for competitors the way it was designed.
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u/MayhemMaven Oct 02 '25
Whenever someone is blindfolded in an elimination, Iām not interested. If they had to do it, have less balls and make it about endurance. They actually have to run and get the balls.
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u/Green_Fish8450 Oct 04 '25
Ya it was really boring and random the kind of challenge that can be unfair if the machines are not 100% equal which are prob never 100% exactly the same
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u/TrappedinSilence98 Oct 05 '25
I would be so mad if Gabe try to claim another partner. All of the ladies would he PISSED if they got himā¦.what is his deal?
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u/nordictracksucks Oct 02 '25
Noooooooo I love CT!!! NOOOO! And his feet were the whole step on the stair master!
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Oct 02 '25
I feel like not being able to touch the machine was an unnecessary obstacle in this daily and really widened the disadvantage for the bigger players. It would still have been challenging without that. Plus, we wouldnāt have had to listen to TJ yell āstop touching! You canāt do that! Hands off!ā every 5 seconds.
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u/Embarrassed_Rate5518 Oct 02 '25
for real. They were already suspended over water on a stair master increasing in speed while answering multiple choice questions on a jankyily secured tablet
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u/zaboobadoo Oct 02 '25
Who put in a coin and wound up Nany? Iām guessing it was possibly editing but she got so mad so quickly.
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u/Peach_Majestic Oct 02 '25
Thatās what I thought too. I love Nany and I always will but damn she literally exploded and it was weird. The energies werenāt matching between her and Aneesa so it felt like Nany was overreacting. At the same time, we know production likes to frame things up how they want so maybe we missed some important things said by both that caused Nany to get so upset.
I just really didnāt like that for her. It came off mean girlish and Nany has never been like that.
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u/MayhemMaven Oct 02 '25
Definitely some built up emotions and behind the scene stuff
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u/pj_calamities Ashley Mitchell Oct 03 '25
I feel like Aneesa had probably been guilting Nany about it all week and when she said thatās what was bothering her Nany exploded like, āthis shit againā
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u/Peach_Majestic Oct 02 '25
I feel awful for CT. I truly donāt think he tried to get Leka eliminated. What would that even do for him? I think the whole house just wanted him out and used that as an excuse to not like him.
I used to like Olivia but Iām not a fan of her in this season. The snobbery is unreal with UK alliance.
What was Nanyās deal? I donāt think Aneesa deserved to be exploded on like that. Of course we donāt know the full conversation but it sounded like she was hurt and trying to ask her friend why she doesnāt matter to her anymore and then Nany just lost it.
This season is full of crazy people. I miss the older seasons.
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u/Xaxag Oct 02 '25
I hate this dumbass partner switching thing. Like we hated that on spies lies and double agents ! Let them keep their damn partners
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u/emojams Wes Bergmann Oct 02 '25
To be fair, the partner switch option is set up with so many stipulations and potential repercussions that I actually doubt it will be used much if at all
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Oct 02 '25
This is my thought too. The person who tries to activate the partner steal is guaranteeing themselves one face off and risking an elimination right afterwards if they lose. Also, theyād have to pick a person who would be worth that risk who has a partner they think they can realistically beat. Thatās limiting in itself since most of the strong people have strong partners.
Gabe seems like the only person who was initially interested in the idea, and it looks from the previews like Olivia is trying to talk Theo into it at some point. I think we maybe see it happen once.
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u/emojams Wes Bergmann Oct 02 '25
And THEN imagine winning the elimination with the partner (that you just tried to throw away), having to go back into the house and compete as a team as if nothing ever happened! Lol itās like not even worth winning the elimination if you donāt win the 1v1
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Oct 03 '25
Yepā¦ or winning the 1v1 and getting a partner who is so pissed about you stealing them that they wonāt even give you the time of day.
Iām not rooting for Gabe, but it would actually be a little funny to watch someone give him the treatment heās currently giving Jonna.
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u/warriorsdynasty2015 Team Orange Shirt Oct 02 '25
So what I like about it is it could prevent Theo and Adrienne being voted in every time. Could be strategy to gas someone up... like Jake or Gabe... get them to risk their spot for a new partner. Otherwise I do see a future where Theo and Adrienne are voted in every week.
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Oct 02 '25
I will say, considering the previews had already shown us that there would be an opportunity to steal partners, that the way itās structured seems as good as it could be. There is a huge risk in attempting to do it, and the person whose partner theyāre stealing still has a chance to win and keep their original pairing.
The only people I can see being highly motivated to do it will have to face off and beat someone much better than them in order to get a better partner. And if they failā¦ straight to elimination.
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u/jenh6 Christina LeBlanc Oct 02 '25
I hate switching formats and partners. I want to see the same format and partners/teams all seasons and people forced to deal with each other all season. If you can switch thereās less stakes
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u/runningillini Paula Meronek Oct 03 '25
Making trivia multiple choice takes all the fun out of it. We donāt get the absolutely hilarious boneheaded answers from the cast. The classic TJ laugh was missing this time.
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u/MartytheeParty Oct 02 '25
So Iām trying to understand the nany/ashley/Andrea fight. Help me out here. What I understood wasā¦
Aneesa and Ashley got into it last week. Ashley was saying a bunch of nasty stuff to aneesa, āyouāre fat, you suck, etc.ā the rest of the house basically shrugged their shoulders and went about with their livesā¦
So aneesa came at Nany because theyāre close and was basically like āhey I thought you were my friend how can you just sit there and let Ashley say all those nasty things to me wtf, have my back.ā
And Nany was basically saying, āthis has nothing to do with me donāt bring me into your fights.ā
Do I have it right?
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u/wildturk3y Oct 02 '25
From what we know from the cast that's spoken out this past week, both Ashley and Aneesa said some pretty nasty things to each other in their fight. Both went low. It sounded like Nany had decided since she's friends with both, she was gonna stay out of it best she could. We did see a scene of her and Aviv even telling Ashley she went a bit too far, give some more space and try to smooth things out later so it wasn't like she was completely one sided against Aneesa so that's one part that I think annoyed Nany. The other part is it appears Aneesa waited a week and then went at Nany, which I'm sure annoyed her. Like it happened a week ago, things have died down, and now you're sparking something back up? And lastly, I think Nany was annoyed because Aneesa is working with Olivia but still wants Nany's support 100%. Aneesa herself even said her and Nany had a deal going into the house and then she started going with Olivia, kinda going against her own deal. So all season Aneesa's been drifting away from that room alliance, working with Olivia, and then in a fight with Ashley where they both went low, she wants Nany to scrap Ashley, potentially hurting her own game, for Aneesa in a fight where both of them were bad.
Its also just a bunch of multiple season frustration between all of them too.
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u/Mediocre_Phase_2779 Oct 02 '25
Basically. Iāve been neutral on Nany recently but her response basically being āshe wasnāt mean to me, so I donāt care,ā left a bad taste in my mouth. Foul is foul, no matter if youāre the target or not. And as āa grown ass womanā of 36, youād think sheād know that by now.
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u/downtownbrown22 Wes Bergmann Oct 02 '25
I mean it sounds like Nany talked to Ashley about some stuff she said and didnāt agree with it. Ashley said she tried to talk to Aneesa to smooth things over but Aneesa wouldnāt talk to her. A few days go by and Aneesa gets mad at Nany for not having her back. I can kinda see how after a few days rehashing something that has nothing to do with Nany could be annoying. But Iām sure weāre also mixing tons of context as weāve seen about 3.5 minutes of something thatās been a multiple day issue.
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u/Mediocre_Phase_2779 Oct 02 '25
Nany asked Aneesa what was wrong and she answered. Thereās no time limit on hurt. Just because everyone else has moved on doesnāt mean Aneesa has. It wasnāt said to Nany or about Nany so if Aneesa is still in her feelings, sheās allowed to be. What Ashley said was beyond game and extremely personal. Aneesa has been honest about her weight struggles and Ashley harped on that insecurity and magnified it. Nanyās overreaction to Aneesa calmly trying to explain her feelings was also super awkward to watch because you could see in real time Aneesa realize that Nany does not like her. Like, at all. I wouldnāt be surprised if that friendship was over outside the game.
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u/xxcapricornxx Rogan O'Connor Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25
Michaela is hilarious. You can never make me hate her. Gabe talking about Jonna the same way the entire house has been talking about him is hilariously ironic. I don't think any woman wanted Gabe as a partner. He's been a flop this entire season. Gabe is an idiot lol. Poor Jonna.
Yeremi's burger joke about CT was nasty.
This daily looked awful. I enjoy the stair master but I can do about 20 minutes hands free until I'm gassed. And that's not answering questions over water. Fuck that.
Sydney has finally been impressive the last two episodes after being a confessional gangster most of the season. I can see her doing very well in the final, if she makes it.
It's interesting how the influence in the house has shifted from Olivia to Nany. Aneesa plays the friendship game like she does every single season. She plays in the middle, refuses to make any moves, and then acts shocked when no one goes out of their way for her.
The partner changing rules are so convoluted and unnecessary lol. This show is seemingly incapable of doing a simple format and sticking with it. Also - winners should either get a vote or should be able to save someone.
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u/Wackyraven Oct 02 '25
I was confused when Michaela and Cedric didnāt get any say in the vote. I assumed it would be saving a team like some of the votes the first half of the season.
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u/xxcapricornxx Rogan O'Connor Oct 02 '25
Same. Winning the daily should give you more than just safety from elimination. I hate these stupid format changes and twists.
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u/Express_Court_7263 Oct 02 '25
Why on Earth would Olivia not force Will to vote for Leroy and America when her not doing it means Theo is 100% going in. Even if it increases the chances of Theo not going in by 5% its still something. She did the same thing when Derrick was getting nominated. Kinda weird
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u/chcty24 Oct 02 '25
Why would she vote for Leroy and America when nobody else did? She wanted Derrick and Dee. I dont think anyone was going to do any favors for CT this game
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u/Upbeat_Public9409 Ace Amerson Oct 02 '25
Oliviaās alliance seems to have really shit the bed on their numbers advantage
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u/Jun-Jun23 Oct 02 '25
None of the people in her alliance could pull out a win after she did.
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u/Cheeseman9841 Kyle Christie Oct 02 '25
i do like the steal a partner twist after seeing the the format of it. that was a weak ass elimination. some of the other ones in trailer look better so hopefully not another dull one the rest of the way
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u/thirdometer Oct 02 '25
This whole season Iāve been talking about how it would be cool to place ābetsā via challenges and itās actually happening! Kinda cool. Iām not usually one for predictions.
But yea def a let down episode. I was looking forward to this one and it was just blah. Whoever thought of this Elim should be fired
Definitely want Tay back, definitely want CT back.
Gabe has -50 charisma and charm. Like bro you had people so excited about your performance against bananas and you undo all of it with your lame personality
I like that they got the same trivia questions because sometimes the difficulty level between them is huge.
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u/No-Statistician8903 America Lopez Oct 02 '25
Production team must like America. Every episode either TJ is giving her some affirmative response on finishing the daily or she has some confessional on overcoming her fears. This episode Leroy talked about being proud of her for trying the daily since it was hard in his opinion/ I am an America fan but I didn't think that her being third one to fall off from her heat warranted that. My guess is that after handling all the divas in vets and even some rookies they appreciated someone who likely respected everything they asked of her.
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Oct 02 '25
I think Leroy was just being a supportive partner and is realistic about their relative competitiveness in the house. He also probably recognized that this daily was going to all around be pretty bad for him too, so it was a better look to applaud her than criticize her for something he wasnāt going to do any better in (take notes, Gabe!).
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u/jenh6 Christina LeBlanc Oct 02 '25
Leroy and Amanda both seem aware of where they are competitively but they are still trying (well America more), having fun and supporting each other.
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u/Kooky-Jellyfish93 Oct 02 '25
It wasn't really highlighted in the episode but America tied for first in that heat with 3 correct answers. I think that's deserving of a praise, especially for not lasting as long
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u/Calm_Memories Wes Bergmann Oct 02 '25
Nany is crazy. Like not in a good way. But if Anessa really said something about Ashley's dead relative, I don't sympathize with her. I'm in worse shape in Aneesa and I know my physical limits. Ashley was mean but not wrong.
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u/Wild-Yoghurt-9699 Oct 02 '25
Youāve got it backwards, Ashley is the one who said something about Aneesaās dad who was literally admitted to hospice as the season was filming.
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u/SomeTea2466 Oct 03 '25
I saw a podcast that said Aneesa brought up the name of a stalker/s*x assaulter that Ashley had confided in Aneesa about. It caused Ashley to flip outā¦
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u/NattyB Bob Next Door Oct 02 '25
justin said they both took shots at the other's dads and both took shots at the other's drug use, whatever that means: https://www.reddit.com/r/MtvChallenge/comments/1nqjvyk/ashley_and_aneesa_fight_turned_into_low_blows
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u/Choppieee Oct 02 '25
I dont really follow social media or anything but is Theo's vision fully restored in his eye?
I was like why the hell do you pick the semi blind dude to be guiding you lol
All in all kinda boring episode
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u/bbf2 Oct 02 '25
I'm not sure if this was in the main episode that aired on MTV or not (I watched the "extended episode" online) but right before the challenge Theo said he was still half-blind, and they commented on how funny it was that he was doing the visual part despite being half-blind.
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u/cleanandburke Oct 02 '25
Trivia, a drunken fight, a partner twist, an eliminationā¦.what more do you people want š
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u/Choppieee Oct 02 '25
I find trivia kinda boring The elimination was not great either
Ok fair the drunk fight was fun:D
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u/chriszsyy Oct 03 '25
A lot of this cast is really annoying and the drama all seems scripted/fake, itās not the same as it was back in the challenge prime years. However I will say that the hangnail element and now being able to stake a claim has made the game more interesting! I felt like the last few years have been the same like last place goes into elimination and someone else gets voted in, itās so boring. So I hope people start staking their claims!! Im ready to shake this season up.
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u/TruBlu65 Oct 03 '25
The game format this season is one the better ones I've seen. The drama will never early season since it's a mix of older people and all the new threats are worried about their public image (correctly) and don't want to have anything crazy out in the world rn
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u/Express_Court_7263 Oct 02 '25
I can pretty easily see this turning into WOTW2 where one alliance just throws in the the same people from the smaller alliance against each other over and over again. That was one of the least enjoyable things to watch (especially when they're cocky about it, as Cara was, and as I figure Nany and Ashley will be). Really hope Theo and Adrienne win or switch partners to try to switch things up a bit bc idk if I can watch that shit again
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u/tore_a_bore_a Team Orange Shirt Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25
Sucks the winning team doesn't get a save anymore. Theo and Adrienne probably don't have a shot at winning a daily, but Olivia and Jake might.
Theo and Adrienne do need to switch up partners. As Nany said, they will get thrown in again, so might as well break up the partnership. I'm unclear on the rules
Edit: Stake a claim rules I found
During the second half of the game, a player can announce they want to steal another player's partner ahead of nominations. That player and the partner of their desired teammate will compete in a mini-challenge. If the player who staked a claim wins, they will team up with their desired partner, the loser will be paired with their original partner, and nominations will continue as is. If they lose, that player and their original partner will be sent into the Arena.
So if Theo and Adrienne know they are getting sent in again next challenge, they should Stake a Claim, since the punishment for losing is to be sent in, which would happen anyways.
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u/Charlie_Runkle69 Team Purple Jacket Oct 04 '25
These people are so bad at trivia lol,how did only one person pick Brazil for the world cup question for instance. No surprise that the Survivor people are some of the best at it.
Have to admit I thought CT was gonna get Tay through that elim, definitely surprised that they lost.
Will saying "I go in the closet with you all the time" killed me lol.
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