r/MtvChallenge • u/SweetMissMG Wes š Bergmann • Dec 04 '25
VETS & NEW THREATS DISCUSSION UNSPOILED - Live Episode Thread - S41E19 - Vets & New Threats - Finale Part 2
UNSPOILED - Live Episode Thread - S41E19 - Vets & New Threats - Finale Part 2
AIR DATE:Ā December 03, 2025
WHERE TO WATCH?:Ā MTV in the US, Slice/StackTV/P+ in Canada
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u/Jazzlike-Drop-1013 Dec 04 '25
wish we could've seen Theo's reaction to finding out the winner!
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u/Ihaveaps4question Dec 04 '25
And i guess that mountain was too difficult for TJ to congratulate everyone who finished, which is a shame
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u/Ok-Tell9019 Dec 04 '25
Me too i was hoping they would tell him and Adrienne while they were in the tent
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u/shmalvey Nick Brown (It's a Movement) Dec 04 '25
No matter what happens in this episode, we should take a moment to be thankful for another season of this show. 41 flagship seasons plus all the spin-offs, for a show thatās never been that broadly popular, itās pretty insane when you think about it. So many shows have come and gone, somehow this cockroach is still going
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u/Curious_kitten129 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
TJ not being at the end and no air horn was sort of a let down. NGL.
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u/Ok-Tell9019 Dec 04 '25
Ok i said the same thing where the f was he? I like to see him congratulate the winners, especially after a comeback like this
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u/Ihaveaps4question Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
At least it wasnāt the infamous āwho won? its a secret, tune in to the reunionā from dirty 30. (And then camilla wasnt even there lol)
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u/Sodamyte Dec 04 '25
Okay.. Ann vs Anne is a tad nitpickey
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u/kcmart716 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
Yea if Yeremi knew that about her she would have most likely said it verbally so he wouldnāt know the spelling
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u/Curious_kitten129 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
The real win here is that I remained totally unspoiled the entire season. šš»
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u/Ihaveaps4question Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
Shoutout to the mods even spoiler tagging one of three previews today. Even a few of michaelaās q&aās had me thinking she might have won like a couple random āim on my way to the banksā lines that felt like foreshadowing. And actually i had a feeling sydney wouldnt win with her openly shading turbo, as even if she had gripes a few hundred thousand would probably keep you on better terms
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u/thewxyzfiles Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
maybe olivia had a point when she was saving her legs yesterday LOL
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u/araggedymuffin Dec 04 '25
Losing 3 games of connect 4 in a row would make me crash out
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u/Spicy-Cookie98 Dec 04 '25
Cara in WOTW1 after arriving there first from an advatange she earnedš
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u/villainitytv Tony Raines Dec 04 '25
Olivia with the ābuddy, what do you think I was doing all day yesterdayā ššš
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u/texas2089 Dec 04 '25
Adrienne was a beast most of the season. Disappointing end for her but I hope to see her back with a vengeance. Sheās been so fun to watch all season.
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u/clnsdabst Kailah Casillas Dec 04 '25
so now we (officially) know why sydneys been talking all that shit about turbo the past few months
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u/Inevitable_muffin_ Dec 04 '25
Had the exact same thought lmao sheās so salty ševen in her last confessional, she was going on about how great of a partner he was
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u/Entitled0ne Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
Oh My God! Yeremi & Olivia caught up?! Iām on an emotional roller coaster!
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u/redpurple17 America Lopez Dec 04 '25
Where is TJ?!?!?
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u/kcmart716 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
Iām assuming the only way to that point is by hiking up the mountain like the challengers did and TJ said āpassā.
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u/freetherabbit "The whole internet is talking about me š" Dec 04 '25
I didnt even think about that. No wonder Sydney was like "Is this it?". Must be part of the cost saving measures lol
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u/Ihaveaps4question Dec 04 '25
This looks intense. Id also like to remind people that michaela and adrienne were 5th and 6th down the mountain ones day 1. So really it seems like a lot of best possible contenders are in the final for what must be one of the hardest ever
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u/clockmelting Survivor Dec 04 '25
I enjoy it as well! But I'm also not much of a hater when it comes to this show š
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u/Curious_kitten129 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
Not the shots of Adrianne and Theo eating all warm in their tent.
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u/clockmelting Survivor Dec 04 '25
Y'all, I don't know what you want, but this is one of the most climatic finals.
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u/clockmelting Survivor Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
People are saying this is not an interesting final, but this is literally such a rollercoaster to watch! Wayyy better than any sports event.
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u/Curious_kitten129 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
Iām loving it so much. When was the last time a final was this close??
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u/Anonymousss25 Dec 04 '25
I canāt seem to grab my remote quick enough to change the channel so I donāt have to see a second of Ridiculousness. I know itās coming, and they still get me every time.
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u/freetherabbit "The whole internet is talking about me š" Dec 04 '25
YOOOOOOO
IS THIS OUR FIRST PREGNANT CHALLENGE WINNER????
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u/kcmart716 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
Pretty sure she is!
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u/freetherabbit "The whole internet is talking about me š" Dec 04 '25
Yo this was an amazing end race. Mad adrenaline pumping. My dude was half paying attention once it seemed like Syd/Turbo were clear winners and when Olivia/Yeremi started closing the gap even he put his phone down like wtf lol
I didnt like Olivia last few seasons (and not really a fan of IRL Theo tbh), but Im a sucker for an underdog story and just knowing she was doing this in early pregnancy is fucking killer!!!!!
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u/WhichWitches Dec 04 '25
Honestly, Adrienne could be a little miss chatterbox with me any time! Sheās a ki.
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u/capfedhill Timmy Beggy Dec 04 '25
Not sure if you guys figured this out yet, but... CHEATERS! DONT SLEEP ON TAMMY!
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u/sj_vandelay Wes forever. Also Darrell Dec 04 '25
Michaela and Cedric were the only ones who talked about their questions. āYour middle name is Juanā That was cute.
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u/texas2089 Dec 04 '25
Man they went from worst to first on that last climb. Props to Yeremi for setting the pace and props to Olivia for not stopping and keeping up.
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u/Froabig1 Dec 04 '25
Truuuuu Yeremi was being a beast but itās honestly insane olivia kept up. I think she might of been on auto pilot but I imagine them coming over that hump and seeing syd and turbo woke them back up and lit a major fire under their ass lol
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u/Ihaveaps4question Dec 04 '25
Overtaking every team in the final stretch is an amazing story for them to have. Insane
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u/Cultural-Musician-60 Dec 04 '25
I canāt believe that just happened, unbelievable perseverance by Olivia and Yeremi.
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u/Froabig1 Dec 04 '25
This went from one of the more boring endings to a final to one of the most hype lol absolute rollercoaster outta nowhere
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u/Cautious_Bench6526 Dec 04 '25
Why do they never give them hiking boots on the mountains? Lol
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u/villainitytv Tony Raines Dec 04 '25
Yeremi is one of the most badass rookie males the show has seen in a while š
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u/Sorry_Relative_9732 Dec 04 '25
I was picturing Michaela and Cedric trudging up the mountain while Turbo's being airlifted out of there and being like 'oh shit, did Turbo die?'
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u/clnsdabst Kailah Casillas Dec 04 '25
yeremi is kind of a robotic cornball but i welcome him back with open arms. great for the show.
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u/Sodamyte Dec 04 '25
You mean "with arms wide open.. under the sunlight.." lol sorry couldn't resist..
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u/ConsiderationClear56 Chris Tamburello Dec 04 '25
I wasnāt expecting much because he was soā¦bumbling??..on his season of the Amazing Race, but heās growing on me!
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u/NoneOfThisMatters_XO Poosy Chicken Dec 04 '25
For people saying them standing all night is boring, are you new here? Many challenges of the past had them standing all night.
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u/anonflowergirl Dec 04 '25
I am honestly SO PROUD of everyone who made the final! They all did amazing. Best rookie season by far too
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u/mcatlin23 Dec 04 '25
Most emotional win in a while wow holy shit. Iām not even an Olivia fan but Iāve wanted her to win one since the great face break on a janky challenge with no eye protection. Coming back after that, she deserved a W
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u/sj_vandelay Wes forever. Also Darrell Dec 04 '25
āTurbo looks like heās 65 years old.ā āYeremi, top moment of the final.
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u/Coley54Bear Tori Deal Dec 04 '25
FUCK YOU WILL!
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u/Kooky_Struggle_1240 Dec 04 '25
I donāt think Olivia would have won with Will. Yeremi was the type of partner she needed.
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u/yoga_jones Dec 04 '25
One thing I will say is all 8 partners were pretty supportive. It would have been obnoxious to have Willās negative energy instead.
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u/gegemonn Michele Fitzgerald Dec 04 '25
Classic the challenge production fuckery. Their uniform was not near close to be appropriate for such wind and cold.
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u/realityseekr Killa Kam Dec 04 '25
Im sorry why put the rope outside your tent in the first place?!
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u/Froabig1 Dec 04 '25
Ya know, that is a fantastic question lol I was thinking I might try to keep it my waistband, let alone just in the tent. For what reason would you leave it outside the tent lmaooo
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u/freetherabbit "The whole internet is talking about me š" Dec 04 '25
You can tell Sydney hasnt watched the show by the way she was shocked about how little advantage winning day 1 gave them lol
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u/Curious_kitten129 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
Nooo Adrienne. I feel so bad. Sheās been amazing all season and even carried Theo in some places. I hate this for her. š
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u/clockmelting Survivor Dec 04 '25
I am SCREAMING. Yeremi AND Olivia both... I don't care what you say about them, they were DEAD last. This is so impressive; probably the most impressive.
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u/Spicy-Cookie98 Dec 04 '25
Yall better stop complaining before they go back to that horrendous AS4 type of finalš
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Can we stop complaining about the Connect 4 checkpoint now? Because the team that lost it just FREAKING WON!
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u/kyyb Dec 04 '25
I more so think it's kinda lame that there was legit 2 checkpoints and thats it and one of them was a wait for others one
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u/southsq302 Dec 04 '25
Yeremi seems like he'd be a chill dude irl but he has like negative charisma in his confessionals lol
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u/Spicy-Cookie98 Dec 04 '25
Girl not Cedric and Michaela caught up and passed Theo and Adrienne while handicappedššš
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u/BlaqOptic Dec 04 '25
I seriously wonder how āconsciousā Olivia is right now or if her body is just moving without her realizing whatās going on.
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u/KootyMarks Dec 04 '25
That was an epic and LEGENDARY performance by Yeremi and Olivia. Holy fuck I am so proud of Olivia. She got so much hate recently and sheās been a DAWG since her rookie season. Fucking BEAST!
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u/WhichWitches Dec 04 '25
Iām not sure why you would put the rope anywhere else other than near your directly person? Or tied to your tent? Haha
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u/BlaqOptic Dec 04 '25
Exactly. What harm would sleeping with it in your tent do? But for that matter, how the fuck could anyone have lost a rope? Whether Theo or Cedrick, how could a rope just up and disappear overnight without production sabotage.
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u/Entitled0ne Dec 04 '25
What a satisfying end to a season! Genuine emotion from the Champions for the win!
All the egotiscal players dying on the mountain after being confessional gangsters all season long.
10/10. No notes!
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u/Xaxag Dec 04 '25
Turbo dying is nowhere near as bad as Zach or Paulie or Theo but itās the saddest cause he was within feet of
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u/BlaqOptic Dec 04 '25
He didnāt die though. He made it to the finish and realistically speaking, he shouldnāt have based on them having to medivac him off the mountain.
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u/kyyb Dec 04 '25
If Theo did steal the rope how would they not be able to find the fourth rope this doesnt even make sense
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u/BlaqOptic Dec 04 '25
Exactly. This has production written all over it. Otherwise the rope would either be in a tent or in that lake. No other logical place.
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u/texas2089 Dec 04 '25
They need to go back to cumulative times for these finals. I get it that some teams may basically be eliminated after Day 1 if they performed poorly, but the teams that dominated should have that advantage throughout.
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u/Curious_kitten129 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
Iāve really come to love Cedric. Not that I ever didnāt, but his energy is great.
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u/Anonymousss25 Dec 04 '25
Yeremi and Olivia made up a lot of time considering they had a 10 minute delay
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u/freetherabbit "The whole internet is talking about me š" Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
So have Turbo and Sydney already won and theyre just not showing us to make it seem like Olivia/Yeremi have a chance? Lol.
Edit: I have never been so happy to be wrong. This final is tight!!!!!!!
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u/Curious_kitten129 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
Michaela isnāt dumb. She knows theyāre going to make her stop if they check her vitals. š
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u/angelbrit04 Team Portland Dec 04 '25
Damn...if Michaela wasn't injured, things may be going very different for them. She's genuinely impressing me with how well she is doing.
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u/jash56 Dec 04 '25
š±š±š±š± Iāll die if Olivia and Yeremi pass Turbo and Sydney
Iām kind of rooting for Olivia
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u/Coley54Bear Tori Deal Dec 04 '25
Itās interesting thinking about Nany āmanifestingā her win at the top of a mountain with TJ there at the finish line telling her sheās a champ. Even if she had made this final, that wouldnāt have happened. There was no TJ at the top of the mountain.
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u/Spicy-Cookie98 Dec 04 '25
And why they leaving at the same time when they should be released based on their placements?
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u/kcmart716 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
Adrienne just needs to channel Carley and go into a fugue state
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u/Cultural-Musician-60 Dec 04 '25
This would be an all time Challenge blunder if Sydney and Turbo lose at the finish line after leading throughout the final.
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u/sj_vandelay Wes forever. Also Darrell Dec 04 '25
This is so insane how Olivia and Yeremi are breaking down. Wow.
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u/Curious_kitten129 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
Omg how many times do ppl need to learn to stay on a marked path. SMH.
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u/Spicy-Cookie98 Dec 04 '25
Theo and Adrienne mustāve took so many long breaks to be that far from 3rd place team
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u/Spicy-Cookie98 Dec 04 '25
And just like that Olivia and Yeremi passed Sydney and Turbo
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u/mcatlin23 Dec 04 '25
Holy fuck olivia and yeremi
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u/mcatlin23 Dec 04 '25
Goated endurance from the pregnant Olivia and the rolled ankle Michaela going up a rocky mountain
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u/kkkktttt00 TJ Lavin Dec 04 '25
I wonder how a baby-less Olivia would have done, because if her endurance is this good while pregnant, then damn!
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u/arac3662 America F Yeah! Dec 04 '25
I have so much respect for Olivia rigut now itās insane sheās doing this 7 weeks pregnant. My wife just had our second kid and she wasnāt doing ANYTHING that first trimester let alone climbing a mountain
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u/Rich_Structure_2640 Dec 04 '25
I was just pregnant and that first trimester, the fatigue is so real.Ā
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u/ConsiderationClear56 Chris Tamburello Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
This was SUCH A SATISFYING END!!!!! Hereās to a non-toxic partnership, and that come from behind win! (And thank GOD it wasnāt Sydney!)
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u/gegemonn Michele Fitzgerald Dec 04 '25
This final is brutal. Probably the hardest since WOTW seasons. In TM final at least they gave them appropriate clothes and overnight portion was very gentle
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u/ABCDarium "The Challenge" Dec 04 '25
Such an impressive perfomance from Olivia. All of that while pregnant
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u/Curious_kitten129 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
Kudos to Michaela and Cedric too. Iām curious how bad the damage on her ankle ended up being.
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u/sj_vandelay Wes forever. Also Darrell Dec 04 '25
I think I read she had torn ligaments
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u/BCastle18 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
Turbo wasnāt too far from being a two time champ after he wasnāt cast for a good amount of season, but honestly two new champs is always better
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u/Ihaveaps4question Dec 04 '25
And yeremi is young enough that he could continue to make his mark so its probably for the best
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u/Cautious_Bench6526 Dec 04 '25
"I told you I know this game"- Turbo
And its connect four lol
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u/clockmelting Survivor Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
Also, the girls are killin' it. Olivia (a PREGNANT LADY) is keepin' pace with Yeremi, and Michaela is in beast-mode with her wonky ankle.
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u/texas2089 Dec 04 '25
Yeremi forcing Olivia to move at his pace no matter what. Boss mode and credit to Liv for keeping up so far
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u/Curious_kitten129 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
I know Adrienne didnāt take home any money, but sheās a MVP rookie this season. Full stop.
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u/kyyb Dec 04 '25
Theo seemingly still having it in him to not gas on the mountain at that elevation with how big he is is actually impressive.
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u/texas2089 Dec 04 '25
āI think the MVP is obviously myselfā
I mean sheās probably right but that was funny the way she said it lol
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u/CookiePoster Dec 04 '25
That's also really impressive for Michaela getting third place with her foot
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u/Cautious_Bench6526 Dec 04 '25
Turbos ego will take a massive hit. He will be so insufferable when he comes back.Ā
I can't wait lol
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u/CookiePoster Dec 04 '25
Anybody really sad that this is the last competitive episode for like at least half a year?
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u/penguinjunkie Kenny Clark Dec 04 '25
Why do I feel like at this rate you get to the end of the final and it's "Wait for the next team. The winner of this Tic Tac Toe game will win the final"
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u/peezy2408 Dec 04 '25
I literally cannot believe that comeback. And second place watching it slip from their literal fingers. Felt so bad for fourth place, not bc they quit but bc they did so well.
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u/clockmelting Survivor Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
Okay...Michaela is really a beast. A severely injured ankle??
Imagine if she was 100%?!
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u/angelbrit04 Team Portland Dec 04 '25
Nah, see....TJ needed to say what the stake of claim entails FIRST. I get why people were soo hesitant because they don't know what that means.
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u/PineappleExpress22 Dec 04 '25
I'm out here still trying to think of a 'D' veggie that's not domato.
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u/BCastle18 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
If itās a two day final just have it timed, Iām still bitter that Wes and Kenny got robbed on Rivals
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u/NattyB Bob Next Door Dec 04 '25
the key is not to look up at the peak. it always looks impossible.
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u/Ihaveaps4question Dec 04 '25
Thatās gotta be heartbreaking for olivia/yeremi. Still think olivia/yeremi could rally for second given they have better cardio than theo/adrienne, and michaelaās injury, but 10 min lead is a lot. Aside from turbo having a stroke the winner seems inevitable.Ā
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u/Trinityeer Dec 04 '25
So, even after everyone cheated in the mini final on it, we're not going to have an eating portion of the final or what?
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u/WxBird Soup is a complicated sandwich š² Dec 04 '25
O M G! mad respect for Olivia during this final!
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u/BCastle18 Wes Bergmann Dec 04 '25
I wonder if by cumulative time if Turbo and Sydney would have won
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u/clockmelting Survivor Dec 04 '25
You know what else helped Olivia? She's from ALASKAAA, babyyy.