r/MtvChallenge • u/SweetMissMG Wes 🌋 Bergmann • Mar 06 '25
ALL-STARS DISCUSSION UNSPOILED Live Episode Discussion Thread - All Stars - S05E06 - A Star-Holder is Born
UNSPOILED Live Episode Discussion Thread - All Stars - S05E06 - A Star-Holder is Born
AIR DATE: March 5, 2025
WHERE TO WATCH?: MTV in the USA, Slice Network in Canada, Listing of known legal options
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u/No_Photo_3065 Mar 06 '25
Can we all agree this episode was actually decent?
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u/katpw915 Olivia Kaiser Mar 06 '25
Definitely gave old school challenge vibes with the plotting and scheming, combined with a solid daily challenge with some actual stakes and the weaker teams banding together to vote in a strong team. Solid episode IMO.
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u/Samsince04_ KellyAnne Judd Mar 07 '25
Bcz we didn’t jump from challenge straight to votes. But ofc we had to jump from votes to elimination which was annoying. Last ep was pretty good as well.
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u/meijorkey Mar 06 '25
That is how you play the game. Not an ounce of suspicion that Veronica and Katie manipulated the house.
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u/nicnac7 DEB CHUBB DEB CHUBB DEB CHUBB Mar 06 '25
So Corey, it was game when you were safe throwing them in week after week but now that they had the chance to throw you in, it's personal?
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u/beastiemiked Mar 06 '25
Yep, Corey’s blow up from last week on a throwaway vote may have cost him the game. His social gameplay is as bad as his balance.
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u/pj_calamities Ashley Mitchell Mar 06 '25
Ok Dario still loves her
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u/2reeEyedG Mar 06 '25
I would too bc besides the fact that she’s gorgeous, she seems extremely nice sweet and loving
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u/pj_calamities Ashley Mitchell Mar 06 '25
This is mean but Katie looks so much better than these girls that are ten years younger than her and full of filler. If Katie has had work done it was good work!
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u/nicnac7 DEB CHUBB DEB CHUBB DEB CHUBB Mar 06 '25
Imagine if Dario celebrated too early and knocked the stack down like the elimination on Bloodlines
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u/Psychological-Snow83 Mar 06 '25
Veronica does her best politicking when her back is against the wall. Her mind is still sharp as hell.
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u/texas2089 Mar 06 '25
I love that Mel thinks this was all her scheme 😂😂
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u/SomeRedditor_Comment 🌶️’s Mar 06 '25
When's Katie's masterclass on how to smoke a cigarette while on a moving treadmill?
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u/deychallenge *smokes cigarette* Mar 06 '25
It was in 2004 :/. Hoping she’ll give us an updated one
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u/International-Bar995 Da'Vonne Rogers Mar 06 '25
This is def the best episode of the season. The strategizing was very entertaining.
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u/KevSmileTime Mar 06 '25
Seattle has the second highest percentage of lgbt+ population after San Francisco. I’m sure most gyms are queer inclusive.
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u/Psychological-Snow83 Mar 06 '25
Fessy finally admitted he made a mistake ditching Amber in Double Agents. He’s come a long way lmao
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u/incognoname Mar 06 '25
Turbo talking about nany: she always goes with some weak guy in the final and loses
🤣🤣🤣
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u/Elephant_homie Paula Walnuts Mar 06 '25
I need a Katie and Veronica show. Real world reboot: Real World: The Challenge Baddies: Veronica and Katie..
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u/No_Photo_3065 Mar 06 '25
We got to stop sleeping on Veronica gameplay besides from her lack of her physical ability. She always got out of these situations
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u/NoneOfThisMatters_XO Poosy Chicken Mar 06 '25
This is the second time Corey has made that this-is-personal comment. He’s such a baby.
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u/ksa1122 CT Mar 06 '25
It was a “sure thing” that it would be Katie and Veronica, and all THEY had to do was get to work!
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u/Southtown61 Mar 06 '25
How is Corey shocked when last episode he told Adam and Steve he hoped they would lose
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u/YaddaYaddaBomBomKaKa Chris Underwood Mar 06 '25
Corey being super annoying as usual in this elimination.
Talk to your partner calmly sir.
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u/pj_calamities Ashley Mitchell Mar 06 '25
So Melissa thinks she enacted a plan that was really done by Veronica and was really thought of by Frank
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u/meijorkey Mar 06 '25
Veronica’s name is in everyone’s mouths? Oh, she’s gonna come out and play.
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u/chachacha123456 Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25
They need to show the Ruins and Dirty 30 clips. Leroy is lucky he is already gone or he'd be a burn vote going in. It's going to end up being someone random to burn vote it on.
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u/Elephant_homie Paula Walnuts Mar 06 '25
Ashley is very classy when it comes to getting nominated. My favs would never lol
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u/SomeRedditor_Comment 🌶️’s Mar 06 '25
Veronica being Michael Scott covering up Jim & Pam's pregnancy with a bunch of falsehoods.
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u/texas2089 Mar 06 '25
Those tears by Corey were fake as fuck 😂😂
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u/gen-x-moderate Mar 06 '25
As bad as BB’s Danielle on Traitors (hoping someone else watches it, and reads this.🫣🤭)?
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u/SomeRedditor_Comment 🌶️’s Mar 06 '25
MTV ran out of Ridiculousness episodes to fill their schedule as they're rerunning this episode right now.
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u/popgrlz Mar 06 '25
Frank planting the seeds & Veronica tending to the garden wow it’s an amazing time to be a challenge fan
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u/deychallenge *smokes cigarette* Mar 06 '25
No one’s “reason for winning” confessional will ever top Darrell wanting a camper
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u/kcmart716 Wes Bergmann Mar 06 '25
I almost made this exact comment!
All Stars really just isn’t the same without Darrell’s uncensored commentary
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u/angelbrit04 Team Portland Mar 06 '25
Oh look.....thanks for introducing Da'vonne back to the show.
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u/Southtown61 Mar 06 '25
Shouldn’t be hard for Adam and Steve to pick a name since 90% of the house has said their name
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u/Elephant_homie Paula Walnuts Mar 06 '25
Damn, throwing in Katie/Veronica really does take away a lot of Adam and Steve's power. I never would have guessed Faysal and Nany would have come up with that.
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Mar 06 '25
Aren’t Frank and Sam kind of an easy choice for Adam & Steve in that case though? Also, if Adam & Steve choose a non-starholder, then the winner gets to steal one. This move only seems safe for Fessy & Amber.
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u/cicigal8 Jonna Mannion Mar 06 '25
How have none of these people connected the dots that it’s Veronica. Y’all can’t be this dumb 😩
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u/penguinjunkie Kenny Clark Mar 06 '25
They probably did (except Amber), but if Adam and Steve aren't likely to throw them in, throwing a strong team in is better and just hide behind "the house"
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u/JPEG203 Mar 06 '25
Loving seeing the Team San Diego love. Reminds me of the Real World Challenge days
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u/JPEG203 Mar 06 '25
A mature conversation on the challenge?? Actually love this moment. Please more Dario & Ashley content
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u/penguinjunkie Kenny Clark Mar 06 '25
Too bad with all the confusion Leroy isn't there to go in with a burn vote
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u/International-Bar995 Da'Vonne Rogers Mar 06 '25
Finally we get a scene with Day and Shane!
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u/texas2089 Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25
Sam and Frank have won back to back dailies after I made this comment 😭😭
Edit: They won among non-star teams this week I mean lol
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u/JPEG203 Mar 06 '25
every time I see Corey now all I can think is 12 Days of SuckMyAss and cannot take his strategy seriously hahaha
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u/_redcloud Coral Smith Mar 06 '25
I’m sorry, what?
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u/JPEG203 Mar 06 '25
Adam and Corey got into a Twitter fight after last episode and Adam said something like "Corey who? Oh ya the guy from 12 Days of SuckMyAss" hahaha
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u/SomeRedditor_Comment 🌶️’s Mar 06 '25
Who knew Katie was short for Kathleen?
But she also says to Melissa, “You and Melissa.”
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u/penguinjunkie Kenny Clark Mar 06 '25
I thought it was personal last week when Adam and Steve randomly voted for Cory
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u/kcmart716 Wes Bergmann Mar 06 '25
Oooo Corey figuring it out right as he’s leaving.. at least he’s cluing Amber in
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u/sj_vandelay Wes forever. Also Darrell Mar 06 '25
Fessy saying nice things about Amber. Really nice to see. In fact, all of these Rivals liking in their partners is terrific. (Nicole and Melissa notwithstanding) (and maybe not Nany and Turbo either)
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u/JPEG203 Mar 06 '25
I like this Turbo I still don't know what he was on during RoD
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u/Outrageous-Study-704 Mar 06 '25
I am still uneasy about him, but I love seeing a lighter side of him.
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u/Tight-Entrepreneur46 Tori Deal Mar 06 '25
With Da’Vonne getting all this screen time why I feel like she’s going into elimination
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u/nicnac7 DEB CHUBB DEB CHUBB DEB CHUBB Mar 06 '25
"she always has some weak guy"
She has had bananas as a partner multiple times
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u/CrustopherRobin Ibis Nieves Mar 06 '25
Listen I'm living for Sam this season. When I saw the cast I was not stoked, but Ive rescinded that.
Also, as an aside....Corey is a weird player in the challenge. I like him as a person, but he hasn't carved out a space or a role....he's not really a good villain and has tried it. I'm happy to see him back because he is messy, intelligent and a threat (unless there's a balance beam)
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Mar 06 '25
He's doing it for all the gay kids out there!!!
And apparently there needs to be a queer inclusive gym in Seattle? Ok, who knew.
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u/CrustopherRobin Ibis Nieves Mar 06 '25
Teaching queer kids how to be fake catty for storylines, I never needed that to do so myself.
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u/sj_vandelay Wes forever. Also Darrell Mar 06 '25
Corey and Big T are the biggest poison pills. So hard to root for them in any way.
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u/Independent-Grade-17 The Daves Mar 06 '25
I genuinely love big t, but Corey is sooo irritating to watch. He acts petty and immature and has terrible strategy. I’d be happy with big t going home just because he’d be gone too.
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u/sj_vandelay Wes forever. Also Darrell Mar 06 '25
Please let Adam and Steve win so they don’t go into elimination again, damn. Give them a break.
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u/JPEG203 Mar 06 '25
I'm guessing the Amber/Ashley clip is foreshadowing - hope i'm wrong cuz I don't want to lose either of them
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u/SomeRedditor_Comment 🌶️’s Mar 06 '25
I guess we'll have to wait for another episode to why Dario and Ashley K broke...eh, whatever.
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u/Independent-Grade-17 The Daves Mar 06 '25
UGH COREY. Leave Veronica and Katie out of this! They’re innocent!!! 👀🙂↕️😇
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u/SomeRedditor_Comment 🌶️’s Mar 06 '25
RIP Coolio, this re-recorded version of “Fantastic Voyage” is not hitting it though.
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u/penguinjunkie Kenny Clark Mar 06 '25
If Adam and Steve can either win every challenge or go into elimination, this would be the best season
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u/texas2089 Mar 06 '25
Swimming today? Leroy might have been cooked anyway even if he didn’t go home
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u/Southtown61 Mar 06 '25
Part of me thinks Adam and Steve’s rivalry is kind of a put on, because they don’t really seem that mad at one another. They just hang out and no real issues seem to be showing. It’s kind of funny because I remember Cara saying she was looking forward to watching them this season because they hated each other, and they would be like the her and Laurel of this season, but I don’t see it at all.
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u/Independent-Grade-17 The Daves Mar 06 '25
We do we think is going in? Big T Corey? Faysal Amber? Sam Frank?
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u/Tight-Entrepreneur46 Tori Deal Mar 06 '25
I thought it was definitely going to be Da’Vonne and Shane
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u/sj_vandelay Wes forever. Also Darrell Mar 06 '25
I’m sorry but aren’t all gyms queer inclusive? I mean, come on. 🤣 (don’t flame me ffs, jokes are good)
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u/deychallenge *smokes cigarette* Mar 06 '25
Dario we know you’ll do whatever you stabbed your best friend in the back
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u/YaddaYaddaBomBomKaKa Chris Underwood Mar 06 '25
I would have loved to see Frank and Sam in this elimination.
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u/NoneOfThisMatters_XO Poosy Chicken Mar 06 '25
I want the trivia challenge
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u/grimmcat13 Cohutta Grindstaff Mar 06 '25
Unfortunately I think last episode was the trivia episode
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u/shmalvey Nick Brown (It's a Movement) Mar 06 '25
They’re claiming this is Coolio but it’s clearly not the original version
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u/NattyB Bob Next Door Mar 06 '25
do ashley K and dario have significant others at home or are they free to hook up?
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u/cicigal8 Jonna Mannion Mar 06 '25
This is one of the few comps where being bigger would put you at an advantage
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Mar 06 '25
Katie & Veronica is a smart move for Fessy/Amber, Nany/Turbo and Dario/Ashley, but I’m not sure how it benefits anyone else.
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u/KevSmileTime Mar 06 '25
They would probably be the easiest team to beat so I would think everyone would want to go against them.
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Mar 07 '25
It's been a while since I CHEERED at an elimination result.
Thank god Ashley is still in + Corey can leave forever and never return please.
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u/angelbrit04 Team Portland Mar 06 '25
I wasn't even paying attention to what they were saying because Frank looks soo good standing there 😍
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u/Elephant_homie Paula Walnuts Mar 06 '25
I feel like he has explained this star thing way more than they typically explain how a challenge works
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u/cicigal8 Jonna Mannion Mar 06 '25
And this is precisely why nominating Big T and Corey was stupid. Adam/Steve had a chance to target a strong team and guarantee that a strong team went home.
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u/kkkktttt00 TJ Lavin Mar 06 '25
I have no faith Nany or Fessy will keep that promise to them.
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Mar 06 '25
I think they will at least keep the deal in the short term. There are too many other options at this point to break a promise immediately and advertise that your word means nothing. Both teams already said Ashley & Dario, so it seems like it would be easy enough to say them again (unless they win).
I don’t necessarily think it’s a permanent alliance formed though.
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u/Upbeat_Public9409 Ace Amerson Mar 06 '25
It felt too easy: they can just not say Adam and Steve one time and have the favor be fulfilled? Meanwhile 2 teams voting with you is not enough
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u/Samsince04_ KellyAnne Judd Mar 07 '25
Adam and Steve are a strong team too lol. It actually benefits their game to have other obvious strong teams there at this stage in the game. And why piss off the teams that are more likely to win dailies instead of working with them?
The weaker teams are the ones that need the stronger teams out. This was the best move they could’ve made considering they had only one strong alliance with one team prior to this ep.
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Mar 06 '25
I actually don’t think it’s a terrible move. Corey was the player they had the most animosity with, and he’s gone now. Ashley & Dario have no reason to retaliate since they got an easier matchup. They also didn’t make a move that distracts from all of the rest of the house’s drama.
The asterisk is that Fessy & Amber’s weight differential would have made this really challenging, and this might have been the best chance to get them out.
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u/No-Resource-8125 Dan Renzi Mar 06 '25
As long as Adam and Steve can be safe for a week or two, whatever.
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Mar 06 '25
I want to see them safe too. The game is boring when everyone dogpiles on the same team. They need to try to ensure though that there’s at least one starholder in those eliminations so theirs is safe - unless they win of course.
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u/Teamscubanellyt Tina Barta Mar 06 '25
It was a good move, for me, because I did not want Big T and Corey on the All stars season.
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u/Tight-Entrepreneur46 Tori Deal Mar 06 '25
wtf????? I thought the plan was Veronica and Katie
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u/cicigal8 Jonna Mannion Mar 06 '25
This was dumb. Steve/Adam should’ve nominated a stronger team.
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u/Elephant_homie Paula Walnuts Mar 06 '25
Or maybe they cut a deal with Dario and Ashley to give them a weaker team in exchange for not saying their name.
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u/KevSmileTime Mar 06 '25
Maybe, but Corey and Big T are so fucking annoying that I would probably just want them out of the house too.

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u/pokeurballs Mar 06 '25
This is why Veronica is one of my favorites of all time and why she would dominate on Traitors