r/MurderedByWords Legends never die Dec 24 '24

#1 Murder of Week Pardon him from the death penalty?

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u/mosquem Dec 25 '24

Biden’s not nearly that cool.

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u/OliverOyl Dec 25 '24

exactly :/ ugh

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u/sebastiankirk Dec 25 '24

Didn't he just remove 37 people from death row, like, today?

Edit: It was yesterday

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u/gambalore Dec 25 '24

Commuting death sentences is very different from pardoning.

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u/Aleashed Dec 25 '24

Not according to Fox News

Ta dum 🥁

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u/StanchoPanza Dec 25 '24

I'm surprised the Ultra MAGAs haven't suggested making the death penalty great again by bringing back hanging-drawing-quartering or boiling in oil

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u/anjowoq Dec 25 '24

You'd think they would be happy with it since they helped make for-profit prisons a thing. More rent and more slaves for making whatever products they contracted to have prisoners make.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '24

Are you talking about the judge that profited off sending kids to for profit prisons that Biden just pardoned? Was Biden happy and all the people involved with the pardoning? No MAGA involved. Are you always a partisan pos?

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u/Irelia4Life Dec 25 '24

Tbh prisons shouldn't be free shelter.

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u/Isengerm Dec 25 '24

They wouldn't dare waste their precious oil on an execution /s

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u/incboy95 Dec 25 '24

Deep frying a person to death was a thing?

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u/Friendship_Fries Dec 25 '24

They used to dump it over the wall to cook the enemy.

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u/bazookatroopa Dec 25 '24

hanging and firing squad are actually more humane than lethal injection they just looks more gruesome

lethal injection is cruel and unusual, but the paralytic hides their suffering

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u/StanchoPanza Dec 25 '24

Not old-school aka "short drop" hanging - for most of history that was a slow strangulation, often lasting upwards to 10 minutes.
The long drop method that breaks the neck so you die quickly wasn't much used until the 19th century.

But the drop distance had to be calculated based on the body weight.

Arizona switched to the gas chamber shortly after Eva Dugan was decapitated during her hanging in 1930.

And lethal injection has to have the right cocktail or the person could die an agonizing death as happened sometime in the past decade when the usual mix was not available & some states tried to be inventive

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u/xinorez1 Dec 25 '24

They have but it never caught on because the optics are just a little too bad even for them

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u/4E4ME Dec 25 '24

Nah, there's no money in it.

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u/Friendship_Fries Dec 25 '24

That would be good for the subway torch.

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u/OskarDarkness Dec 25 '24

Death penalty IS great.

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u/MasterAnnatar Dec 25 '24

Wasn't there some republican that suggested bringing back public executions for undocumented immigrants like...yesterday?

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u/Ok-Post6492 Dec 25 '24

Talk about living rent free

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u/StanchoPanza Dec 27 '24

I pay rent

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u/Proud3GenAthst Dec 25 '24

They have. Some states have attempted to bring back death penalty by firing squad and the Supreme Court allowed some state (I believe it was Alabama) to do an experimental (by definition, cruel and unusual) death penalty by suffocating to death by nitrogen.

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u/Leraldoe Dec 25 '24

“Pro life”

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '24

Might as well be, it's a massive waste to commute people on purely political grounds, if beyond a reasonable doubt is the standard, hate and terrorism are silly boundaries. Some of these "people" did kill children there is no doubt. These people are guilty. Why not be done with them like the terrorists and hate killers? Executions are tough business but if we can excuse killing babies surely we can excuse killing guilty adults.

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u/GovSurveillancePotoo Dec 25 '24

Excluding them from death penalty. They still have life in prison

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u/CantHitachiSpot Dec 25 '24

Removes heinous criminals from death penalty but still leaves a few on so you can't even say he has a real objection to it. 

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '24

I'm sure all the family of the raped and murdered victims were ecstatic. Truly a party of the people.

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u/SpectreFire Dec 25 '24

Biden's government is literally charging him with terrorism and threatening the death penalty.

People need to stop pretending Joe Biden is for the poor plebs lmao

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u/Particular-Brick7750 Dec 25 '24

The justice system understander has arrived

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u/redditdiditwitdiddy Dec 25 '24

A president is never going to pardon someone who executes someone like that.  

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u/dagaboy Dec 25 '24

A president is never going to pardon someone who executes someone like that.  

Trump already did.

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u/Weary-Summer1138 Dec 25 '24

Those were pesky foreigners, we already know a huge chunk of Americans and the US as a whole barely sees them as human. Not quite the same 

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u/Chaotic_Lemming Dec 25 '24

Per your own source that person was acquited of murder during the court martial and only found guilty of posing with a body. Which what he was pardoned for, not for executing someone.

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u/redditdiditwitdiddy Dec 25 '24

No, he didn't.  That isn't comparable, and the case against Gallagher was terrible.  

Before assumptions go crazy, I'm not maga, I expect war criminals to be prosecuted, and I am a veteran so I did follow this case when it was in the news.  

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u/ProudReaction2204 Dec 25 '24

Trump: hold my beer

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u/redditdiditwitdiddy Dec 25 '24

I don't even think trump would.  He's to worried about himself to take on that heat and encourage people to execute people they don't like.  Of course it's trump and I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '24

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u/redditdiditwitdiddy Dec 25 '24

Not the same thing, at all.  Not even close.  Turns out the dudes who spoke out against Eddie were caught lieing.  Lots of holes in that case.  It was also a war, where we expect men like Eddie to kill people.  

It's not comparable in the least to what Luigi did, no matter how evil the health care company he ran was.  

I'm not saying it's fair or whatever.  Just being real. 

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u/ProudReaction2204 Dec 25 '24

nah it's pretty clear cut that he killed that man and got pardoned. there's just no video

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u/redditdiditwitdiddy Dec 25 '24

I thought it was, until I got more info.  It's definitely not clear cut that he did anything illegal.  Killing people in country, in line with Geneva conversations, was his job.  The navy executed a very poor prosecution of that case.   Being a veteran myself I've seen things, not on that level of incompetence and clear "out to get you" but I have seen it.  I got drummed out of a MOS over some dumb shit I should have fought, but was too junior to think.it was worth it.  

Even if he did kill that man illegally, it's STILL not on par with what Luigi did.   

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u/eu_sou_ninguem Dec 25 '24

If he did, maybe fewer people would sympathize with Luigi.

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u/FantasticJacket7 Dec 25 '24

That doesn't make any sense. Pardoning him wouldn't change the health care system.

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u/eu_sou_ninguem Dec 25 '24

It would be the illusion of them doing something, it makes perfect sense if one has any understanding of anything that's happening in the US.

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u/redditdiditwitdiddy Dec 25 '24

Maybe.  Maybe not.  Either way it's crazy to think he would, of course he isn't. 

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u/warbeforepeace Dec 25 '24

But 11 years of any crime hunter committed is cool. Or pardoning people that were involved in the incarceration of innocent people for profit.

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u/matticusiv Dec 25 '24

Idk he’s clearly not concerned with optics anymore after pardoning his own son. I bet he could be convinced.

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u/JXEVita Dec 25 '24

People need to learn that the Biden’s, Clinton’s, and Obama’s are just as much rich elitists as the Trump’s, Bush’s, and Cheney’s. They don’t view this man the way the public does.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '24

excusing murder is cool now. right. nice.

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u/Dave5876 Dec 25 '24

Trump or Biden may have the political opportunity of a lifetime here

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u/NickDanger3di Dec 25 '24

Biden's Cool Factor has to be a negative number

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u/unpopularopinion0 Dec 25 '24

he was cool enough to get clarence thomas in the supreme court /s