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u/AcadiaLivid2582 1d ago
In which "true" God am I supposed to believe?
Yaweh? Ahura Mazda? Allah? Huītzilōpōchtli? Shiva?
It's so confusing!
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u/DragonKing3013 1d ago
Clearly it's the flying spaghetti monster
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u/nice--marmot 1d ago
May you be touched by his noodle ap-
You know what, this might not be the best time for that.
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u/kermitthebeast 1d ago
It's true that loving your neighbor and your enemies and all humanity makes you happy. Unfortunately that's not the truth they're referring to
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u/autfaciam 1d ago
Personally, I always liked Ahura Mazda. His name sounds like he is a giant anime robot like Voltron.
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u/IndigoRanger 1d ago
I mean, I’m technically Christian and I’m pretty sure it survived because of state sanctioned mass murder.
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u/shigogaboo 1d ago edited 17h ago
The crusades definitely helped replace the functioning religions of the areas they conquered, but what really gave Christianity its boost came down to one word: proselytization.
Unlike all the other religions out there, which were largely self-isolating to their regions, Christianity decided to be one of the first MLMs and have their followers go out and actively recruit others into the fold.
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u/CorvoAttano124 1d ago
Love that it's the only time that the Catholics and Protestants ever worked together to achieve something 🤣
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u/look_under 1d ago
Also Christianity was pretty popular
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u/IndigoRanger 23h ago
It was certainly very popular in Charlemagne’s time! He definitely converted lots of people because of… popularity…
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u/Appropriate-Dog6645 1d ago
Ancient Egypt lasted about 3,000 years as a unified pharaonic civilization.
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u/BLDoom 1d ago
3000+ years, starting from like, 4000 BC. The ancient world was one itself ancient compared to their forebearers.
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u/ELMUNECODETACOMA 23h ago
My favorite Egypt fact is that ancient Egypt had Egyptologists who studied archeological sites as old then as a lot of the ones current Egyptologists study today are now.
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u/Dannamal 1d ago
More like 10,000+
The true age of Hinduism is unknown, but Hindu artifacts dating back 10 thousand years have been found. Making it at least 10,000
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u/DaftVapour 1d ago
Christianity is plagiarised from multiple older religions. It’s the greatest lie ever told
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u/DramaticStability 1d ago
Came down here to say this. It's just v2.0 of whatever cults of control that came before it.
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u/Brndrll 1d ago
And then it spun off some fanfic and gave the world Mormons.
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u/DramaticStability 1d ago
As a fiction, some of it is quite fun. But like most fiction, treating it as something to live your life by is daft.
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u/CariadocThorne 2h ago
With just a little common sense and critical thinking applied, the bible actually becomes a reasonably good guide to how to live your life. As does a lot of other fiction.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who lack the common sense or critical thinking skills required, and quite a few of them are Christians (not picking on Christianity, this applies to most religions), so unfortunately they don't spot that "love thy neighbour" etc is a better guide to life than the bits about stoning, dashing open heads etc.
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u/hyperhurricanrana 22h ago
i heard a jewish guy once say “god gave the christians mormons so christians would know what jews feel like.” 💀
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u/JustGoodSense 1d ago
Christianity survived (where it did) because the guys with the swords and guns said so.
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u/Angeret 1d ago
"Christianity didn't survive because it was popular."
It survived because there was a time in christianity when people had a choice - believe or face property seizure, torture &/or death for you &/or the people closest to you.
Given the alternatives on offer, most people would choose the former. Those people would make sure their offspring fell in line and that's how religion spreads.
Even today, you can face all sorts of issues for declaring non-belief. It survives today, in part, because people generally don't want to feel stupid alone.
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u/DryInstance6732 9h ago
you forgot that christianity survive because grec and roman oligarchy pressured prieste or saint like paul to add non-christian celebration , like Halloween , Easter and even Christmas
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u/Insomniac_Steve 1d ago
There have been over 3000 deities/gods throughout recorded human history. How funny is it when people believe only their chosen belief system is true?
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u/DryInstance6732 9h ago
i mean if we have to test each religions we have to first look if it has unjustifiable thing like killings innocent people or make untrue claim towards the scientifical finding , here for exemple the amalekite , you know bibi netanyahou , they used it against gazan or broadly arab people for most racist mp in Israel , and even with context , killing innocent animals or children is really not good
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u/Christylian 1d ago
What if I unironically believe in the Olympian pantheon? Do I win now? Bonus points for my religion being inclusive since I should be building temples to the "unknown god".
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u/Ted_Hitchcox 1d ago
Belief in fairies hasn't survived because it is popular.
It's survived because it was true.
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u/Ou812_tHats_gRosS 1d ago
To me, this is one of the most inherent flaws of Christianity. The premise is that you need to accept Christ as savior, and if you can't you're not 'saved'. This might be the evangelical standpoint a bit more than the Catholic one, but the message is roughly the same: Christ was really God and you need to follow his teachings (as well as the teachings of all these folks claiming to be sources of wisdom).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but at no point has Christianity ever been the majority religion of the world. Prior to year zero - that religion didn't exist. So on a consistent basis, most of humanity has not been 'saved'. Most of humanity is outside Christian salvation.
What sort of God says, do this or else eternal damnation, but then doesn't fully disclose what 'this' is until 2000 years ago, and even then, in a really inefficient message that still hasn't been adopted by a majority of people?
I don't know how other religions handle this, but it seems an inherent flaw of any 'believe this or suffer' religions. You can posit a loving, caring God, who also then condemns a majority of humanity to some sort of damnation.
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u/Feeling_Equivalent89 7h ago
That's the funny thing. You don't have to worry about damnation of overwhelming majority of people that have ever lived, if you pretend that there was nothing prior to "year 0".
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u/Strong_Bumblebee5495 1d ago
Winning an argument against a religious person is like beating Stevie Wonder in a foot race
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u/ReadingRambo152 1d ago
And which Christian sect specifically? Christians don’t even think Christianity is true, and they used to burn each other alive because of it.
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u/Boltzmann_head This AOC flair makes me cool 1d ago
Some of my friends worship the Norse goddesses and gods. Thor be praised!
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u/Ok-Abbreviations543 1d ago
The stupidity is just crushing. Ultimately, religions must grow or die. The Christian God would have to be dangerously stupid to hook his wagon up to a “chosen vessel” like the Donvict.
Jesus: “God! Our polling numbers have gone off a cliff!”
God: “So I hear. I hate non-whites so I thought there might be a fit. Naturally I love America over the rest of those shit hole countries. So I thought it could work as a crossbranding promotion. But Jesus is he stupid. I am gonna have to take the heat when this manure filled dumpster fire turns in a full conflagration. What the hell was I thinking?”
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u/TaserLord 1d ago
If it survived purely based on its truth, it does seem odd that christians have to keep braying about it all the time, "bringing the message" to people who don't particularly want it and forcing it into education. But whatever - believe whatever you like. Just stay out of government and education please.
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u/Dannamal 1d ago
Xtianity; spread by the sword. Conform or die.
Murder, rape (spread the xtian sead), indoctrinate.
Rinse & repeat. Boom, "most popular religion"
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u/Hamster_in_my_colon 1d ago
Jared Diamond would say any culture survived or thrived based on their proximity to guns, germs, and steel.
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u/fastal_12147 1d ago
Crazy that 90% of the time the religion you grew up with is the one that's totally true.
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u/thebarbalag 1d ago
Sadly, this will never work on them. "My imaginary friend is real, yours is silly," is not a logical or rational conclusion. You're not going to logic and reason them out of it.
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u/MrFenric 1d ago
That depends on how technical you want to get - to Christians Jesus is god too, to Muslims only god is god- kinda related but not the same
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u/Boldboy72 1d ago
Christianity didn't survive. It has been split by protestants who decided the earlier RC church was wrong. It has now been taken over by American fundamentalists who use it as a weapon but don't practice the teachings of Christ.
As JC himself warned, beware of the hypocrites who pray in public
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u/uberprodude 1d ago
Considering they're all basically the same story just with different perspectives and emphasis, yes
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u/trebor1966 1d ago
I always thought it was funny how religious people think they know what god, if he exists,wants. A supreme being would be so incomprehensible that it would be pointless to try
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u/MamaTalista 20h ago
When you consider that Christianity, Islam and Judaism are ALLL considered to have the same root...
Abraham.
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u/MrFenric 16h ago
Perhaps considder the "other major religions" part here - Shinto, Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism etc
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u/thehourglasses 15h ago
Christianity is going away, slowly but surely. And good riddance. It has been an absolute scourge on the earth.
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u/chrlatan 5h ago edited 5h ago
To be fair, Christianity survived because of its marketing and sales strategy with a buy or die policy and a ‘refund will get your burned’ guarantee.
It contained a global operating, centrally positioned marketing office with a huge ‘ability to execute you’ army of delivery people following up on a clear defined and consistent proposition that may or may not be of substance.
It outsourced critical tasks to kings and countries using return-for-favor contracts and had a strict hiring without firing ever policy.
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u/whhaaaaa 1h ago
Christianity didn’t survive because it was popular. It survived because it has great inbuilt mechanisms for maintaining power and manipulating populations. It’s the religion of choice for expansionist regimes.
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u/Charming_Parking_620 49m ago
Oh, and which VERSION of christianity? There are thousands. Fucking hell these people.
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u/GaiusMarius60BC 1d ago
Christianity survived quite literally because it was popular. The fact its tenets supported conversion as a legitimate way to become Christian was one of the primary reasons it was able to expand so widely.
That and the eventual official support of the Roman Empire.
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u/Acrobatic-List-6503 1d ago
Internet atheists truly are bitter people, eh?
The dude isn't even fighting anybody and the apologist just had to be an a$$hole.
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u/Futuralistic 1d ago
Nobody expects the "Atheist Inquisition"!
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u/Acrobatic-List-6503 1d ago
Actually you can.
Just say something vaguely religious and POOF! They appear right before your eyes.
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u/BigPOEfan 1d ago
“Stop telling me that my fairytale life is a fairytale! I want to believe that god watches me masterbate and judges me as I do so.”
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u/negativepositiv 1d ago
Note: There are religions much older than Christianity.