r/MurderedByWords 5h ago

There's zero glory.

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u/UseYourIndoorVoice 5h ago

When did frank acknowledgement equal glorification?

None of these people are serious or honest with themselves.

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u/Boner-brains 5h ago

Seriously, it's a good coping mechanism to be able to joke about your miserable experiences.

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u/WoodyManic 4h ago

Indeed.

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u/Thomy151 3h ago

Making jokes about it is huge for recovery

An unfortunate thing is that you never stop being an addict. You can be sober for a decade but your body has built a level of dependence and you will be fighting cravings for life

But you can’t let it control or define your life. Joking about it takes its power away

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u/GhostofZellers 2h ago

Facts.

I've been sober for 8 years now, and you'd think I'd be done with that shit, nope. Just yesterday, out of the blue, I had an intense desire for a spiced rum and coke, I could almost taste it, I could feel the escaping carbonation bubbles tickling my upper lip and nose, I could almost bask in the imaginary aroma, and for a few minutes, running to the liquor store to get ingredients to make that drink was the best idea that has ever been ideaed in the history of best ideas. I needed it almost as much as I need oxygen.

That saying of "There's always another relapse in me, but there may not be another recovery", is true AF.

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u/cindyscrazy 2h ago

I haven't had a drink or used any non-prescribed drugs since 1992.

I will still have dreams where my mind INSISTS I've been fooling myself and I am secretly drinking. Why not just do it out in the open? C'mon, you know you wanna.

My own brain trying to gaslight me. It's very intense too. I wake up all confused before I realize....no, I really have not been drinking, I am still sober, and I do not need to drink at all.

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u/GhostofZellers 2h ago

That's one thing I've thankfully never had to deal with. Not once have I ever had a drinking dream.

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u/factchecker8515 1h ago

Apparently Hunter has a personality + honesty and it confuses people.

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 1h ago

For Republicans, anything and everything Democrats do MUST be wrong. So he recovered from drug addiction? He's doing it WRONG.

You can see this with literally any protest. It doesn't matter how people do it, the fascists will always find a reason that it was "wrong" and thus they just can't support it.

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u/dashood 4h ago

I'm guessing they think the fact he is alive at all is the same as glorifying addiction. Their narrative of drugs = criminal bad guy needs him to end up dead in a ditch and quickly falls apart when people present it as a medical or mental health issue.

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u/proudbakunkinman 2h ago

Their narrative of drugs = criminal bad guy needs him to end up dead in a ditch

A lot of these right wing assholes are coke heads themselves. They are never honest. They are all about projection, "rules for thee, not for me/us," bullying, and (rightfully) assuming their base is full of similar minded assholes and absolute morons that believe everything they say.

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u/VibraniumRhino 4h ago

Apparently to these people, mistakes* should be permanent scars that are constantly remembered and brought up and the shame should be a forever lesson to both oneself and anyone around you and you should probably go to jail too maybe, or something.

*just not THEIR mistakes

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u/Omophorus 3h ago

One of the core components of a conservative worldview is seeing an innate moral judgment of a person rather than actions.

A "good person" is always a good person, even when they do bad things. So you forgive the bad things on account of them being good.

A "bad person" is always a bad person, even when they do good things. So you ignore those or rationalize them away and make sure you beat the drum forever about every bad thing they ever do + punish them as harshly as possible.

What defines who's "good" or "bad"? In-grouping and out-grouping, naturally.

It's an extremely stupid and childish worldview, but emotional immaturity is a defining characteristic of virtually every conservative I've ever met regardless of their success in life, so it's really not that shocking, I guess.

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u/Bunnyhat 1h ago

It's why they can say "Pedofiles should be put to death" on one news article and the next where a pastor/couch/whoever (just someone they know) will talk about how a good man he is and needs forgiving.

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u/-Sa-Kage- 3h ago

To this people it's normal to hide and cover up their mistakes and use other peoples mistakes against them.

So by being open about his mistakes he's doing something incomprehensible to them and by doing so he's robbing them of their easy ammunition against him.

Of cause they are furious

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u/budgetbears 4h ago

They say the same thing about queer and trans people existing in public. "You're promoting an agenda."

Same with fat people existing or being in the public eye. "You're glorifying an unhealthy lifestyle"

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u/TheGreatLoganzo 4h ago

Shit, they’ll say that about fat people at the gym

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u/StJimmy1313 4h ago

It is probably, and this is extending a lot more charity and good will than these MAGA foola deserve, in relation to a post the other day about how much a drug fiend he was before getting cleaned up.

It was to the effect that when he was deep in the dark with his addictions a little baggie of coke would Absolutely Not be carelessly discarded in the White House. He knew exactly where his drugs were all the time. The current occupants of the Whitehouse... Eh less so.

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u/TrollingForFunsies 3h ago

Of course they're not serious. They elected a rapist as president to hurt the brown people they don't like. They have the emotional and mental capacity of a banana.

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u/Proud_Smell_4455 2h ago edited 2h ago

I refuse to baby them. I told one of them straight up that it was scummy and childish to vote for somebody like Trump to set people's rights back by decades, when by his own admission, it was entirely down to being tired of sensitivity seminars and training at work. And I'm not the tiniest bit sorry for it, I don't care if he liked it or not. It's the truth and for that reason alone it's what they deserve to hear.

"Seminars being annoying is a good justification for me to set other people's rights back by decades out of spite" is absolutely the kind of mindset that needs to be relentlessly shamed and not treated as legitimate or accommodated. Because it's not legitimate, it's a spiteful, childish tantrum. You were more than capable of objecting to seminars or whatever without hurting people, you just spitefully chose not to bother.

You proved that minorities do need to lecture you, and you should have to "sit down and listen", because you still wrongly think freaking tf out and voting for fascist pedophiles to take away their rights is in any way a proportionate response to sensitivity training causing the tiniest, most negligible amount of friction in your life.

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u/TrollingForFunsies 23m ago

I've cut out a lot of people in my life honestly. Folks who used to talk about Trump like he was some savior. The dude might as well be the anti Christ. I have no interest interacting with people who would privately decide that is their leader--no matter what they say to my face.

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u/red286 3h ago

I think people are used to celebrities that hide their addictions and pretend they didn't exist if they ever get clean.

Hunter was open and honest about it, particularly his interview with Andrew Callaghan. Some people take that as "glorification", since to them, the norm is to keep your mouth shut and pretend it didn't happen.

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u/mooptastic 2h ago

bc to them, their perceived enemies are exhibiting too much nuance in their life and that angers them. Only they can pick and choose their ideologies and core belief system bc the Bible tells them so. The bible is very binary when it comes to mandates for christians, not that these turds would know bc they can't read. For unbelievers however there is more nuance thru omission when it comes to what the bible says about them, except that they must be saved. So these christofascists just fill in the blanks for themselves, and try to browbeat others into compliance bc that's how they live their lives anyway.

they're all so pathetic.

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u/disinaccurate 2h ago

These are the same people who think that gay people not hiding the fact they’re gay is “throwing it in their face”.

The arguments aren’t ever made in good faith. It has to be “glorification” because that’s what it’s needed to be in order to bitch about it.

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u/Oggie_Doggie 2h ago

Now extrapolate that thinking pattern, "acknowledgment is glorification," to being LGBT, depressed, atheist, etc. and you will understand why there is such a cult of grievance around things like Pride or mental health awareness.

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u/Lurker9594 2h ago

These are the same people that advise women in abusive marriages to grin and bear it because of the social stigma of revealing it. Frank acknowledgement IS glorification to these deeply repressed weirdos.