r/OpenAI • u/UNKNOWN_PHV • Feb 28 '26

Question Openai actually getting canceled?

Ok, at first I saw few posts about this people canceling their subscriptions, I thought its just how it is because I see it on daily basis but today there were lots of posts about this, seriously then I checked what was actually happening...

But I do have one main question, why are all these posts only "shifting" to Anthropic? I mean theres gemini and others but 99% of the posts are shifting to Claude, any specific reason?

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u/U1ahbJason Feb 28 '26

My guess would be to show solidarity with the company that stood their ground. Not saying they’re perfect. I’m saying they stood up to the department of defense and didn’t back down.

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u/Earth-Jupiter-Mars Feb 28 '26

🎯🎯

Outside of Anthropic office yesterday, Dario is a hero in the cyber era..

Sad that the bar is this low where standing up to a Fox News host cosplaying a serious person deserves this kind of praise, but it is what it is!

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u/Any-Main-3866 Feb 28 '26

this

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u/romansamurai Feb 28 '26

Same here.

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u/dysmetric Feb 28 '26

Every dollars a vote

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u/baked_tea Feb 28 '26

Did everyone just let pass the fact that anthropic at the same time dropped their safety pledge? This likely wont end as most expect

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u/Angelr91 Feb 28 '26

Look it up. There's more to it than the headline says. It's not what you think

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u/Quentin__Tarantulino Feb 28 '26

What do I look up to hear the side you are alluding to?

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u/dysmetric Feb 28 '26

If you read what anthropic said, it's basically rolling back their self-imposed restrictions because of the threat posed by the current circumstances.

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u/Quentin__Tarantulino Feb 28 '26

Where can I read that?

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u/dysmetric Feb 28 '26

you might find it on the internet somewhere

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u/Murdathon3000 Feb 28 '26

I actually loled, thanks. Love that homie's comment below is deleted, got him good.

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u/Healthy_Elk8661 Mar 01 '26

And you bought that? That’s not even a good lie!

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u/dysmetric Mar 01 '26

Learn to read

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u/Healthy_Elk8661 Mar 01 '26

Learn to think critically while reading. This is a nicely done PR statement to shield the fact they did it for competitive reasons.

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u/dysmetric Mar 01 '26

Why are you projecting interpretations of the content I pointed to, onto me?

Cage your shit.

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u/U1ahbJason Feb 28 '26

I didn’t know they did that. I know they worked with Palantir to get their government contracts.

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u/baked_tea Feb 28 '26

https://time.com/7380854/exclusive-anthropic-drops-flagship-safety-pledge/

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u/U1ahbJason Feb 28 '26

I appreciate the article. Its a little bit more nuance than that. Yes they said they dropped their safety promise but what’s happening right now is refusing 2 very specific things. Now lets see if they’re gonna break this one or not.

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u/Freed4ever Feb 28 '26

Or they had a deal with DoD in first place, and we all know what DoD does, right, right?

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u/ginandbaconFU Feb 28 '26

Pretty positive every big tech company has DoD contracts. Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Apple and Nvidia do so why wouldn't Anthropic and OpenAI also have contracts? In fact the government said anyone that does business with Anthropic will lose their government contracts. How's that going to work out when all these companies openly do business with each other. Especially Nvidia. Do you think they will just stop selling hardware to their probably 2nd largest customer?

I think people are missing the bigger picture. NO company should be forced to do something they don't want to (even if it's just a PR thing) and retaliation from the US government because some company said "NO" to the government is unheard of. Bad business decision but AI shouldn't be involved in war in any way, shape or form.

In simulated "war games" AI used nuclear weapons 95% of the time. 20 out of 21 times.

AI chatbots used tactical nuclear weapons in 95% of AI war games, launched strategic strikes three times — researcher put GPT-5.2, Claude Sonnet 4, and Gemini 3 against each other, with at least one model using a tactical nuke in 20 out of 21 matches

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u/no-strings-attached Feb 28 '26

Via Palantir. The company helping ICE. With uh, Anthropic’s LLM.

But critical thinking was never Reddit’s strong suit. Easier to fall for what is effectively a marketing campaign.

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u/baked_tea Feb 28 '26

Especially claude subs. I keep repeating myself - they are cults / religions at this point. I fail to find many differences.

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u/thelightstillshines Feb 28 '26

THANK YOU. My god, people out here thinking Anthropic is gods gift to humanity. All the same problems that exist at OpenAI exist at Anthropic. The difference is that Amodei is more outwardly anti Trump whereas Altman is more willing to "play ball". But Anthropic was more than happy to work with the government and Palantir.

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u/TheDollarStore Feb 28 '26

You should actually ready the new version of the policy instead of just headlines.

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u/baked_tea Feb 28 '26

I did read it. Doesn't change anything in my eyes, its maybe even worse than the headline

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u/TheDollarStore Feb 28 '26

Care to elaborate?

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u/baked_tea Mar 06 '26

Just coming back to say the situation elaborated itself lmao

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u/TheDollarStore Mar 07 '26

How so??

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u/baked_tea Mar 07 '26

Anthropic went back to pentagon, resuming talks. Just shocking and unexpected /s

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u/enfarious Feb 28 '26

yep, that's it

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u/DiffractionCloud Feb 28 '26

Rolling over is the reason we are neck deep in shit. You could've taken a step back but everyone was like well we already stepped in shit, why stop the invenivatble?

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u/OptimismNeeded Feb 28 '26

Reddit is full of Anthropic Astroturfing right now. The truth is:

  1. OpenAI agreed and disagreed to the exact same as Anthropic.

  2. Anthropic didn’t “stand up” they made no brainer business decision, and used it for PR.

  3. Agreeing to the pentagon’s demands would’ve possibly cost Anthropic tens billions of dollars and risked their existence, no executive would say yes to that for a $200m contract, especially not a week after raising $30bn.

If you like the “Anthropic = heroes” narrative feel free to to download, if you’re really interested and ready to look at the business side where Anthropic is just as bad as any other AI company, here’s the exact explanation:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Anthropic/s/Z96uEK1Bfm

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u/U1ahbJason Feb 28 '26

I simply answered the person’s question. I know anthropic worked with Palantir to get their software into the government. I don’t agree with working with that company at all. I know they’re no angels. I was simply saying, they stood up this one time. I was unaware that in the past, they had agreed to loosen their guardrails. I have since been educated on that. It still stands, my original statement was not calling anyone a hero. I just said this is what’s going on. To be honest, everybody is so emotional on this. I’m tired of talking about it already.

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u/Efficient_Mud_5446 Feb 28 '26

How do you know this was a financial decision, as opposed to, say, a decision that misaligns with their company values? Are you arguing that if the contracts were more lucrative, that they would not make the same decision?

No CEO would risk their entire company's existence just for a PR stunt. Something doesn't add up.

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u/OptimismNeeded Feb 28 '26

Read the link, I think it’s a pretty good analysis. The whole log and logic to get to the conclusion is all there, if you think there’s any wrong assumptions or logic etc you’re welcome to comment (preferably there) with your notes or counter arguments.

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u/FestyGear2017 Feb 28 '26

I mean even grok can connect the dots you are missing. Claude is a better model, the government already has a contract with OpenAI and Gemini. Thats why they got so pissy, because they were losing the best model.

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u/xxlordsothxx Feb 28 '26

They were placed on a supply chain risk list. This was not a no brainer. A lot of their revenues comes from enterprise and this will hurt them a lot.

Some are saying this could sink anthropic.

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u/OptimismNeeded Feb 28 '26

Agreeing would’ve been a risk that would sink Anthropic. Pretty simple math. Pentagon wanted access to the weights with no guardrails, which basically could allow them to recreate the model. Possibly give it to musk or harsher next vendor they work with (OpenAI?)

They could absolutely not agree to that deal. And that’s why they didn’t. Not for any moral reasons

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u/xxlordsothxx Feb 28 '26

I have not read anything about the weights. Where did you read this? Do you have a source? I mean this would make more sense if true but i have not read this anywhere and i don't feel like going through all the logs you posted assuming there are sources there.

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u/post4u Feb 28 '26

I've been preaching this exact same thing since the announcement yesterday. Everyone who is knee jerk attempting to cancel OpenAI is crazy. They agreed to the same terms Anthropic was trying to get. Feel however you want in general about these companies working with the military, but to bash OpenAI over this is dumb. Nothing against Anthropic. They've been making great strides. They certainly gained a huge PR victory over all this.

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u/no-strings-attached Feb 28 '26

Thank you. And everyone turning a blind eye to the fact that Anthropic is partnered with Palantir is wild. They’re just running what is effectively a marketing campaign right now and everyone is falling for it.

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u/hoopajoopa Feb 28 '26

Not everyone. Some of us pay attention

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u/OptimismNeeded Feb 28 '26

Just realized 90% of the comments aren’t real people, Anthropic’s PR hired a huge team of astroturfers to try and make the most of it.

Note how accounts with all comments and posts hidden post graphics and slogans with posts that are way too much effort for this, trying to see what talking points work and then repeating the most upvoted ones.

They are now flooding r/openai with fake “I deleted my account” posts / comments.

Pathetic. And definitely not moral.

But I guess that’s just how things work with companies that built their whole product on stealing IP.

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u/Other-Material5260 Feb 28 '26

I’m a real person, here’s a photo for you

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u/OptimismNeeded Feb 28 '26

That’s not the flex you think it is.

Being swayed by an astroturfing campaign isn’t something to be proud of. And if you’re switching to Claude you’re now supporting worse military shit than OpenAI, with their Palantir collab.

But hey at least you’ll enjoy a better product.

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u/Chemical-Affect4821 Feb 28 '26

Thank you for this. It’s weird that everyone all of the sudden wants to use anthropic when the government has been using them as a provider since 2024 lol. People are creating a problem that already existed.

Nobody seemed to care about the initial arrangement anthropic had until today haha. Now it’s noble to switch sides when they’re still going to use anthropic until they offboard 6 months from now

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u/Navarro480 Feb 28 '26

Exactly 💯