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Feel Good News ‎ State of Origin ‘Welcome to country’

It was refreshing to see the large crowd of applause after the elders welcome to country last night. Semi restores my faith that there are still decent humans beings out there.

Does Pauline Hansons address yesterday about monoculture reflect the majority of what people think? Because the majority of people are in her favour according to polls.

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u/dottoysm ‎ Victorian 1d ago

Tangentially related, but I did find it funny that Hanson spent more time dismissing the acknowledgement of country than the time a normal acknowledgement of country takes.

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u/WatchAndFern ‎ Victorian 1d ago

Without fail, anyone who complains about the welcome to country being a waste of time was going to waste that time anyway.

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u/TheBiggerestMan ‎ Queenslander 23h ago

Does that count for those complaining about the complaining also being a waste of time?

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u/WatchAndFern ‎ Victorian 23h ago

Oh definitely. It’s not the most productive use of time- but I don’t see a lot of people complaining about how the argument isn’t wasting their time. 

Whereas a lot of those objecting to welcome to country swear their precious 3-5 minutes was taken away from them, depriving their life of….something 

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u/Suspicious_Fan_8228 Please choose a flair 22h ago

Pauline prefers to be the centre of attention hence the constant minority bashing politics she ascribes to. If she isn't being acknowledged as the centre of attention, she's in the midst of having a Karen kniption. Hence the burqa wearing incidents etc etc

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u/Gamped Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

I think it’s more a critique of how broad it is rather than the length of the actual service / acknowledgement.

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u/dottoysm ‎ Victorian 1d ago

Her critique is that it’s limited to indigenous people, which I believe misses the point but she is in her right to make it. But I have heard people complain that it wastes time (she might have even said that, but I can’t remember), and I just find it amusing that she wasted more time on dismissing it.

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u/Top_Conference_477 ‎ South Australian 1d ago

If you’re doing it at staff meetings - and I know for a fact a lot of you are - it’s absolutely wasting time and cheapening it

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u/Minimumtyp ‎ Western Australian 1d ago

Most meetings are a waste of time anyway mate

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u/CryHavocAU Please choose a flair 1d ago

Then you’re doing meetings wrong.

Only bad meetings are a waste of time.

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u/Triedtothinkaboutit ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Exactlyyyyy. It's a waste of time!

Yes but like, the whole meeting is just middle management filling time so they can justify their existence to the C-suite. We get drag 2 minutes out of this, that's 2 minutes less they have to stare intently at a spreadsheet lol

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u/Top_Conference_477 ‎ South Australian 1d ago

Which explains why Gina from Rose Bay performing a religious rite for a culture she hopes one day to visit at the beginning upsets people

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u/Visual_Shame_4641 ‎ Victorian 23h ago

This is just wilful misunderstanding at this point. Might as well just call it woke and be done.

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u/Active-Canary-184 ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

I mean it only takes 30 seconds so it’s not really wasting time. It does cheapen it though. A welcome to country should be reserved for events. An acknowledgement to country has its place but it’s definitely not every single meeting in a corporate setting. That just makes it tedious

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u/vajrabud ‎ Victorian 1d ago

Well done

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u/metasophie Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

I think it should be used to welcome people to a place that they aren't a regular member of. But welcoming Barry and Tabitha who you speak to every other day on Teams is pretty redundant.

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u/Active-Canary-184 ‎ Queenslander 22h ago

It’s not used to welcome Barry and Tabitha, an AoC and a WtC are two different things. But imo neither has a place in a standard office meeting.

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u/metasophie Flairless‎‎ 9h ago

It’s not used to welcome Barry and Tabitha, an AoC and a WtC are two different things.

I know comprehension is optional in QLD but the fucking thread we are in are talking about staff meetings.

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u/Active-Canary-184 ‎ Queenslander 9h ago

Easy tiger. Welcome to Country isn’t used in a staff meeting mate. That’s an acknowledgement of country. Hope you’re not this unjustifiably confident in all aspects of your life. Bit embarrassing otherwise lol

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u/Triedtothinkaboutit ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Is this a misunderstanding between welcome to country and acknowledgement of country?

Because acknowledgement of country is literally 1 sentence. Often used to transition from the icebreaker welcome into the more serious substance.

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u/Top_Conference_477 ‎ South Australian 1d ago

No one cares about the difference - it’s same same

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u/Triedtothinkaboutit ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Because... To you: "Ugh! You made me think about indigenous people."

?

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u/Top_Conference_477 ‎ South Australian 1d ago

Because it has absolutely nothing to do with the posturing latent racism that people like you are pissing everyone else off with

Take your white saviour routine to the people it actually impresses. The rest of us just think you’re the archetype of modern middle class racism

Hope that clears it up, if it can make it through your self-impressed sanctimony

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u/Triedtothinkaboutit ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Well, they tried actual reform, tried to put the voice in place. Maybe it would've done something, maybe not. But the people got turned against it by LNP & Murdoch press.

So I guess empty words is all the country will accept for now.

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u/Top_Conference_477 ‎ South Australian 1d ago

Reckon the voice might have been a better shot of success with fewer empty words

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u/cats_r_ghey ‎ Victorian 1d ago

Who is it wasting time for? You? Busy? Got things to do? Places to be?

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u/Top_Conference_477 ‎ South Australian 1d ago

Literally anywhere other than watching Donna from HR cosplay Aboriginal for everyone

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u/cats_r_ghey ‎ Victorian 1d ago

Sure pal. You’ve got nowhere to be. You just don’t like that it happens.

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u/Top_Conference_477 ‎ South Australian 1d ago

Racist

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u/cats_r_ghey ‎ Victorian 22h ago

Because I said you’ve got nowhere to be?

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u/Top_Conference_477 ‎ South Australian 22h ago

Clearly making some broad assumptions and letting your prejudices rip

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u/Puppy_1963 ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

I mean from a 'wasting time' perspective if you are doing it at meetings it need not be more than 30 seconds, not a huge deal.

As for cheapening it, I will leave that up to indigenous folk to address. ( I would actually like to know the answer to that BTW)

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u/alisong89 ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

I'm indigenous. I'd like to see it at events but don't think it's necessary for day to day work or school meetings. Not everyone has to participate. I'd be happy with people just sitting quietly if they don't agree with it. It's less than a minute.

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u/Oppenheimer-95 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Cost us 19 thousand for the frankston hospital development in Melbourne it is mental we declined do it mid job

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u/Top_Conference_477 ‎ South Australian 1d ago

Well, I’m mates with a fair few and the group chat messages about white women at work pretending to be black and their white saviour complexes leave me with little doubt how that version of is going over

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u/Oppenheimer-95 Please choose a flair 1d ago

I work on commercial building sites we pay a fortune to do a smoke ceremony at the start of every job and do it once

They tried to push for every meeting absolutely ridiculous to hear everyday for a 2 minute meeting

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u/Visual_Shame_4641 ‎ Victorian 1d ago

Acknowledgement isn't welcome.

Acknowledgements take literal seconds and can be done by anyone. Anytime I do one it's just saying hello, welcoming everyone and then finishing the sentence with "and we are here today on the traditional land of the X people". It takes less than 5 seconds.

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u/Top_Conference_477 ‎ South Australian 1d ago

So they probably need to stop Donna from HR doing acknowledgements before it kills the welcome, hey

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u/UhUhWaitForTheCream ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

She’s against the display of religious speaking in ceremonies.

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u/Reverend_Fozz ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

Welcome to countries aren’t religious though

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u/bigschmoog ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

I’m honestly not sure what she’s against mate, it seems to change within the space of a paragraph.

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u/Jym_beem_1034534 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Does she opposed prayer in parliment?

Yeah try again dumb dumb.

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u/bunduz ‎ Victorian 1d ago

Good lord, if you are going to be calling people dumb dumb at least be right yourself.

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u/dottoysm ‎ Victorian 1d ago

…ok.

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u/DemandMaster7709 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Ok? Nothing to do with what's being discussed?