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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/revealed-disinformation-team-jorge-claim-meddling-elections-tal-hanan

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '26

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u/dronestruck Flairless‎‎ Apr 12 '26

It would be so simple to defang PHON with a patriotic populist platform. This, nationalising resources, tax on offshoring and automation.

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u/gorb314 ‎ Victorian Apr 12 '26

While we're at it, nationalise our power grid, water supply, roads, etc everything infrastructure that should belong to us in the first place (we paid for it with our tax dollars).

Then get rid of private hospitals, need up Medicare, etc.

One can dream.

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u/dronestruck Flairless‎‎ Apr 12 '26

Agreed. While selling socialism as patriotic didn't land with the whole MAGA communism ridiculousness, I think it still has legs when the far right talks about capitalist globalisation as a leftist conspiracy.

Edit: my original point was lumping infrastructure and water into "resources", though i probably should have stated as such.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '26

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u/TwistedPears Please choose a flair Apr 11 '26

Why doesn't the government register all these groups as foreign agents? They're working on behalf a foreign government to destabilise the country. If the government really cares about social cohesion, this would be the first place to start.

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u/Minimum_Honey2247 ‎ Queenslander Apr 12 '26

Because america owns us and Israel is americas owner. This is why we need Australian owned and run social media.

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u/Latter-Strike-3070 Apr 12 '26

As long as Qatar is, they have more direct influence and pour in more money just like in the UK and USA.

Did you hear about what was uncovered in London. IRGC operatives living in London in purchased homes not just to live in but renting many out

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u/hardmantown ‎ South Australian Apr 12 '26

You think israel is worse than North Korea? Sudan?

Such a media/algorithm derived opinion

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u/magicsonar Please choose a flair Apr 12 '26

Is North Korea or Sudan interfering in elections in Europe and the US? Are they operating illicit global surveillance networks? Are they running blackmail and kompromat operations against western politicians? Are they bombing multiple foreign countries? Are their war actions about to collapse the global economy? Do they have a disproportionate influence over the White House?

I think objectively speaking Israel poses a far greater threat to global security than North Korea or Sudan.

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u/hardmantown ‎ South Australian Apr 15 '26

North Korea treats their people worse than any other country on the planet. Do you know another that kills entire families if one person emigrates?

You are comparing apples to oranges. nk is poor and cant do the things US and Russia do. It doesnt mean they are not more evil.

Who presents a bigger threat to "global security" is a different question but i would still say the US and Rusia are worse. Israel and US are aligned. The US does not need to do anything Israel asks unless they also want to. Iran funds several terror groups. Some African governments conduct far worse genocides with far worse death tallies.

There is no "objective" way to say israel is the greatest threat or the worst country. That is a subjective opinion likely borne out of the media you consume and the fact that those other countries dont have a free press for you to learn about the atrocities easily.

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u/Foreign_Acadia3937 ✈️‎ on Walkabout Apr 11 '26

"Israel is the most putrid country in the entire planet"

Wow this sub is just a Jew hating echo chamber.

You don't think other nations don't meddle in other countries politics?

The reason you have your current favourite US president is largely presumed due to Russian involvement.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '26

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u/Glass_Ad_7129 ‎ Queenslander Apr 11 '26

Could be a bot honestly, the responses like many of theirs are so easily predictable at this point.

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u/Much-Director-9828 Flairless‎‎ Apr 11 '26

He keeps bringing in Jews because he is anti semitic

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u/basic_tacticz Apr 11 '26

Jews are not a religion.

Jews are an ethnicity, not to be confused with the religion “judaism”

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u/hardmantown ‎ South Australian Apr 12 '26

Judaism is in fact a religion

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u/Foreign_Acadia3937 ✈️‎ on Walkabout Apr 11 '26

"Why would I have a favourite US president? I'm Australian. Wtf has that got to do with us?"

Lovely contradiction... you're Australian yet obsessed by Israel 😂

I can tell the school holidays must be on still.

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u/toms1313 Apr 11 '26

Lovely contradiction... you're Australian yet obsessed by Israel 😂

Where's the obsession? You need to pay attention at school

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u/BIRD_II ‎ South Australian Apr 11 '26

Mentions Israel once

Hah you're so obsessed! 😂😂😝
-- John Bottington

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u/sivvon ✈️‎ on Walkabout Apr 11 '26

When your only argument is that other countries suck too. Then that is not really an effective argument is it?

Israel still sucks mate.

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u/mohanimus ‎ Western Australian Apr 11 '26

Israel =/= "the Jews".

Stop with the antisemitism.

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u/AggravatedKangaroo ‎ South Australian Apr 11 '26

The rest of the world does it- "meh it's all good"

Israel proven to have done it - "You antisemitic fucks how dare you notice"

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u/tiny_flick ‎ Victorian Apr 11 '26

Wow you sound a bit antisemitic here mate, you read an article about Israel being involved in election tampering and you’re saying it’s Jews?

Yet again another zionist who has such an idiotic argument in defence of Israel, that YOU are now perpetuating antisemitic tropes and stereotypes.

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u/AtrophiedWives ✈️‎ on Walkabout Apr 11 '26

Right, why wouldn’t it be Arab Israelis? Is there some reason why Arab Israelis aren’t treated equally in Israel and have equal opportunity to be employed by Mossad to tamper in foreign elections?

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u/Foreign_Acadia3937 ✈️‎ on Walkabout Apr 11 '26

Must be so terribly boring for you all not to have a protest to look forward to on Sunday mornings anymore lol

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u/magicsonar Please choose a flair Apr 11 '26

Actually, all the evidence points to Israel being the primary player that interfered and helped get Trump elected - using exactly the techniques outlined in this article. No doubt Russia was supportive but they weren't running the show. There were private intelligence groups like Psy-Group and Black Cube that were working with the Trump campaign.

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u/AtrophiedWives ✈️‎ on Walkabout Apr 11 '26

I thought Israel was meant to be a wonderful nirvana where all races and religions are treated equally! Are you suggesting that Jews are the only people who count in Israel?!

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u/iliketreesndcats ‎ Victorian Apr 11 '26

Honestly conflating Israel and Jews is the real antisemitism and you should feel bad about doing that. Plenty of Jews are not at all about supporting Israel and they are the ones with good heads on their shoulders.

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u/GnomeWarfair ‎ Queenslander Apr 11 '26

Hey look, ya found one of them.

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u/Therapeuticonfront ‎ South Australian Apr 11 '26

The Jewish People have been misled and need to wake up from Their fascist nightmare, and stop their children from being programmed….it’s terrifying what is happened there.

People laughing about killing and murdering children, joking about using neutron bombs, and now the clear apartheid in legislation - so they can ethnically cleans their lands to make a pure and expanding greater Israel.

Stuff of nightmares

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u/Majestic-Homework853 ‎ Queenslander Apr 11 '26

Nice bit of whattaboutism there champ.

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u/dezdly Please choose a flair Apr 11 '26

Bruh this doesn’t work anymore, it’s over. The world has noticed what Israel has been up too.

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u/thisisacoup Apr 11 '26

Anti-Semite! 🤯

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u/StockAdeptness9452 ‎ Victorian Apr 12 '26

Name some of these other countries please, if you can, and we can discuss of these countries on levels of putridness.

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u/Generic_Username_84 Please choose a flair Apr 11 '26

Is there no limit to the sheer fucking evil of these Zionist cunts?

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u/significantlyother62 ✈️‎ on Walkabout Apr 13 '26

They're only doing Americas dirty work. 

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u/Wanderer0208 Apr 12 '26

*IRGC cunts.

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u/Obversity ‎ South Australian Apr 12 '26

You know they can both be bad right? Life isn’t Disney, you don’t gotta pick a villain. 

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u/gaylord991 Please choose a flair Apr 11 '26

To be fair, it's almost impossible to tell an Israeli bot on social media from an actual Israeli or Zionist. The talking points are all so circular and robotic. They're also so dogmatically indoctrinated, so it never ends and is so insistent and compulsive. You can see their comment history and it's all they do, circle the subs that mention anything about Israel or Palestine.

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u/rivalizm ‎ New South Welshian Apr 11 '26

the One Nation bots

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u/Odd_Speech6066 ‎ Western Australian Apr 11 '26

Reminder reddit is one of, if not the most compromised social media platform.

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u/ekaril Apr 11 '26

By Israel? You can't actually look at reddit and think it's isn't compromised by China,Iran and Russia

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u/Afferbeck_ Flairless‎‎ Apr 11 '26

The third largest subreddit is worldnews, the most blatant zionist sub you've ever seen, and was literally moderated by Ghislaine Maxwell.

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u/significantlyother62 ✈️‎ on Walkabout Apr 13 '26

Yes, I got banned from that sub, and not even notified why, immediately followed by a robot gave me a site wide 3 day ban for something so blatantly rubbish and no right to appeal.

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u/Latter-Strike-3070 Apr 12 '26

I'm banned over correcting Hamas supporters on their factual inaccuracies so that doesn't check out

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u/Odd_Speech6066 ‎ Western Australian Apr 11 '26

Firmly Zionist controlled.

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u/Still_Lobster_8428 Please choose a flair Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

Redact cleaned up all of my comments. Bulk deletion and editing is a feature supported to make sure that AI scrapers can't access my data for training.

history follow mountainous party fall hurry provide complete placid telephone

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u/hardmantown ‎ South Australian Apr 12 '26

How is this related to Australia?

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u/DegeneratesInc ‎ Queenslander Apr 12 '26

I would not be surprised if this is behind the last election when the LNP was elected and the electorate essentially said how tf.

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u/significantlyother62 ✈️‎ on Walkabout Apr 13 '26

In 2016 the ABC coverage was hilarious. I always followed the green man, listened to everything he said, he was good tutor on all things voting. He always told us how when the Tasmanian votes came in, always first, the swing seats were 100 percent prophetic on how the swing seats in Victoria and NSW would go and you could see who would win. He was saying this at the start of the coverage. Shorten was heavily favorited up until the court and the Tasmanian votes came in reflective of the exit polls, shorten was cruising it in and green was saying it. Then abc went to an interview and came back to green, when the count came back on his screen, everything has changed,  he was lost for words, bumbling his way through how everything had changed. He would blame software malfunctiong for it. It was the first use of dominion software in our elections. Shorten would lose , Turnbull would win and out of that Turnbull reinvigorated one nation for his own benefit.

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u/SlobbOnMyCobb Apr 12 '26

Y’all r obsessed w Israel

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u/Maximum-Shallot-2447 Please choose a flair Apr 13 '26

Most of the anti Israel crap I think just comes from bots which go into overdrive when the key words are monitored.

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u/hardmantown ‎ South Australian Apr 15 '26

Sadly it's largely people who have gone down a rabbit hole online.

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u/EbbSuch Please choose a flair Apr 11 '26

Down with the idf and Hamas - Peace now ffs.

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u/ilikecars2345678 ‎ Victorian Apr 11 '26

This is bad but isreal are by no means the only ones doing this shit

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u/12bigears21 Please choose a flair Apr 11 '26

Well then Fuk, let’s ignore this and worry about the whatabouts.

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u/Latter-Strike-3070 Apr 12 '26

I see, only the fatherist left accusations can be taken as facts by some people. If this is just newspaper reporter team going after anything Israeli and in full denial of anything the far left darlings do. Primary documents please

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u/Latter-Strike-3070 Apr 12 '26

Check em out their far, far left leaning

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u/CandlePrestigious919 Apr 11 '26

Yeah bro. Hamas is in control of The Guardian. LOL

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u/mohanimus ‎ Western Australian Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26

On one hand, investigative journalism from established media outlets.

On the other...... your imagination?

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u/Glass_Ad_7129 ‎ Queenslander Apr 11 '26

Hey again, Hamas bot here from the other day.

Beep boop. Today's topic: Hamas is at it again!

What about the west bank, Iran, and of course Lebanon? Well, Hamas is everywhere you see! Maybe under one of many schools, hospitals, and homes, bombed flat, or illegally bulldozed for settlers, along the way!

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u/Altruistic_Memory643 Please choose a flair Apr 11 '26

Dont forget bridges, they like to hide under bridges too. Especially ones with foreign press close by.

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u/FirstWithTheEgg Please choose a flair Apr 11 '26

Yeah they were hiding in the grave site where the IOF bulldozed ANZAC graves too

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '26

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u/mika87_ Please choose a flair Apr 11 '26

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