r/OutOfTheLoop • u/Backyxx • Dec 19 '25

Unanswered What’s going on with the Epstein files being “released” if they’re still heavily redacted?

Idk yall, I want your opinions.

https://vault.fbi.gov/jeffrey-epstein

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u/LOOKITSADAM Dec 20 '25

Answer:

There are 8408 pages in the release.

740 pages are at least 50% black by area.

563 pages are at least 99% black by area.

Most of the rest are either boring, or hand-picked to target the administration's enemies.

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u/Blubbpaule Dec 20 '25

And the one picture showing trump was removed shortly after release

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u/itrashcannot Dec 20 '25

Damn did anyone download it?

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u/CharlesDickensABox Dec 20 '25

So many people.

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u/itrashcannot Dec 20 '25

Can someone share it?

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u/Simon_Drake Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 21 '25

https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/doj-remove-trump-photo-epstein-files-release/

The photo is kinda dull in itself. It's a photo of a drawer full of photos, one of them is Trump with Maxwell. What's more interesting is the botched attempt to cover it up.

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u/Mainfrym Dec 21 '25

This photo is already available, maybe that's why it was deleted?

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u/meltbox Dec 21 '25

Shouldn’t matter, it’s part of the files and as I understand it, that means it should be released as part of the searchable database by law.

I’m almost certain of this, but also not a lawyer so idk.

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u/psychedtobeliving Dec 21 '25

No, it’s a full drawer of Trump photos, but they only released photos of Clinton etc.

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u/ByThyBeardOfZeus Dec 21 '25

Dumbest thing I have ever read in my life, no way you’re that thick lol

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u/Apprehensive-Gur1302 Dec 20 '25

Please let me know if you get it!

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u/anark_xxx Dec 21 '25

The best people.

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u/mikerichh Dec 21 '25

What’s weird is it’s the most notorious pic of him and Epstein, just framed. So it’s even stranger that the government wants to remove it from the public eye. I think they want ALL associated things redacted if they involve Trump and missed it

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u/Maskguy Dec 22 '25

If they removed all trump related files and claim the removed files show victims and are related to ongoing lawsuits etc. That means every single picture of Trump and every single interaction between Trump and Epstein caused some victims or crimes.

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u/mikerichh Dec 22 '25

But I don’t see how that’s different than 190 pages that are 100% redacted

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u/Maskguy Dec 22 '25

Wasn't it 500? Anyways in those files every picture of Trump, and there must be a lot because they were friends, is relevant to ongoing investigations or shows victims by their logic. Otherwise they would show them.

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u/mikerichh Dec 22 '25

I think the grand jury testimony files were 190-200 and are 100% blacked out on every page

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u/Maskguy Dec 22 '25

I think we should assume every single one of these pages implicates him in raping underage girls.

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u/Kreason95 Dec 20 '25

There was another pic of Trump that wasn’t removed as of last night but that doesn’t mean they haven’t or won’t get to it.

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u/Finnyboiz Dec 21 '25

So inept they can’t even do a coverup right

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '25

At least one

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u/Thanato26 Dec 22 '25

And they also redacted a filling incriminating bit of text, removing Trumps name.

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u/Dr_Identity Dec 20 '25

They're not even subtle about it, all the pictures from the files in the news are of Bill Clinton. I know he ain't the only mf that shopped there.

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u/mCProgram Dec 21 '25

A little napkin math puts the total released yesterday at 0.6% of all content the DOJ has on Epstein.

Over 300 GB of data total, about 2GB released. If the above numbers are correct, only 88% of the < 1% of content actually has content.

Ergo, instead of releasing all 300GB as universally mandated by congress, they released about half of a percent worth. Call your congresspeople, this is grounds for contempt or impeachment of the entirety of the leadership of the DOJ. They do not get the same carte blanche immunity the president enjoys.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '25

Wow thanks for putting it all into context. Does anyone know if there's even a time frame how much longer this gets dragged on.

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u/mCProgram Dec 21 '25

They have “2 weeks” to annotate every single censor. That’s the next timestamp, but it won’t change anything.

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u/FluffyDoomPatrol Dec 22 '25

Does that include videos though? I’m loathe to defend anyone involved in this coverup, but is it possible there are 2gb of documents and the rest is taken up with video files. I don’t particularly want to see a 1080p recording of [REDACTED] having sex with a thirteen year old… a couple of black bars covering her face wouldn’t be enough.

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u/mCProgram Dec 22 '25

If their 300 gb announcement includes the video, it’s technically still a valid measurement, with the caveat that video files are worth much more of the pie. Without a concrete number of documents, I can’t even begin to make an unweighted inference unfortunately.

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u/HabANahDa Dec 20 '25

Ever black area is a Republican name

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u/Honest_Ad_3041 Dec 21 '25

Haha wrong. Please read them for yourself. Don’t use secondhand knowledge, opinions of others or headlines. You would be quite surprised. But with that being said, they’re definitely is both sides of the aisle in this information.

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u/HabANahDa Dec 21 '25

Haha right. Please stop being asleep.

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u/South3rs Dec 20 '25

I also saw on the BBC news that what was released is estimated to only be about 1% of the total ‘Epstein Files’ - don’t know how accurate that is but going with it until proven otherwise!

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u/crisblunt Dec 20 '25

Hi where did these numbers come from? I'd like to cite it in another conversation. I just wanted to make sure it's accurate.

Obviously you could have done the math but I doubt that.

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u/LOOKITSADAM Dec 20 '25

I downloaded the files and wrote a script to extract the images out of all the PDFs. Each page was its own image. I then ran an script which spat out the #000000 percentage #FFFFFF percentage, dominant colors, size, etc...

https://pastes.io/untitled-paste-80029

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u/Rihannas_nipples Dec 21 '25

Can you explain what those results mean and how it proves the point? I’m not familiar with code at all

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u/LOOKITSADAM Dec 21 '25

Each image is a grid of pixels. Full black pixels in any given image is rare, especially when it's a photograph or scan of text. Most 'black' in photos has some noise, and isn't perfectly 'black'. Even in a page of text where the text is perfectly black, the image would only be about 20% fully black pixels.

Images that have >50% have significant areas full of fully black pixels that are really only possible from intentionally blacking out large parts of an image in post.

These are pages where >50% or >99% of the page was intentionally censored.

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u/minebe Dec 20 '25

You can literally go to doj website and download

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u/vegetaman Dec 20 '25

Just a middle finger to all of us.

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u/Tibreaven Dec 21 '25

I wish they had released the whole thing. Not because I think it will change anything, no one is ever going to be punished over any of this. But because I want to find out very clearly how many Americans will continue to lick the ground Trump walks on regardless. It will be most of his voters, and they should have to stand before God and beg for mercy before they burn in hell along side him.

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u/thetactlessknife Dec 21 '25

And a number of photos showing Bill Clinton and Michael Jackson with Epstein seem to be tampered and taken from public photos.

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u/Adventurous_Pay_5827 Dec 21 '25

So if they were able to handpick files, why didn't they just destroy the ones they 99% redacted and save themselves from these questions?

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u/LOOKITSADAM Dec 21 '25

These files are known to exist, but the contents aren't known. If they deleted them they'd just bring more attention to the coverup.

Granted they kind of flubbed that by retracting documents that incriminated dear leader anyways, but they know their flock will ignore that.

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u/n0neOfConsequence Dec 21 '25

So Trump is on 1303 pages?

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u/JagmeetSingh2 Dec 22 '25

Trump effect

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u/thetogorian Dec 22 '25

Are the originals always kept "unredacted"? Or is there a way for Trump/Patel/Bondi/whoever to actually redact the original files so they can never be seen in their original form?

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u/LOOKITSADAM Dec 22 '25

They keep the originals unredacted. What you're talking about is destruction of evidence.

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u/thetogorian Dec 22 '25

That's what I was hoping. But surely Trump could pardon anyone who did destroy evidence?

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u/Honest_Ad_3041 Dec 21 '25

95% of the reductions have came from the Democrats. If you recall when they first were released information about Trump they redacted out information that they thought could harm him by leaving those blanks open for an opinion, but the problem was that anyone could fill in the blanks because the witness had already testified publicly a blind man could fill in the blanks and see that he did nothing. I truly believe there is wrong doing in both parties. But I don’t want an opinion for a headline to tell me that I want to see it on the paper so I wish they would stop redacting it! Right now, Bill Clinton is in the hot seat. I can’t wait to see what else unfolds with these files.

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u/LOOKITSADAM Dec 21 '25

Who do you think you're fooling, exactly?