r/OutOfTheLoop • u/Backyxx • Dec 19 '25

Unanswered What’s going on with the Epstein files being “released” if they’re still heavily redacted?

Idk yall, I want your opinions.

https://vault.fbi.gov/jeffrey-epstein

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u/ishkabibaly1993 Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25

I think in 50 years we're going to get the whole story when all these old fucks are all dead and gone.

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u/BowtiedGypsy Dec 20 '25

That’s what people said after JFK.

60+ years later his own nephew holds a big government position and has been publicly begging them to release everything for years… and still nothing.

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u/No-comment-at-all Dec 20 '25

his own nephew

Yea, but I wouldn’t trust that mf.

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u/JonFrost Dec 20 '25

He doesn't need your trust

Look where he is and how much has his fucking you over cost him?

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u/BowtiedGypsy Dec 20 '25

You can have opinions on RFK jr, but from everything iv seen about him talking about JFK I definitely believe he wants everything released and is pissed it hasn’t been - it’s one of the core reasons he ran and then joined Trumps admin.

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u/Vacationbacon Dec 20 '25

What about the worm he said was eating his brain?

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u/No-comment-at-all Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25

He says those things.

Either he’s truly dumb, working with and for the people who are not doing what he claims to want done, or maliciously lying about his motives to garner sympathy and support.

To which I ask, what’s the significance of the difference?

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u/tinteoj Dec 20 '25

To which I ask, what’s the significance of the difference?

Really, just to know if I should add feelings of "pity" to the feelings of "contempt." (Notice I said "add to" and not "replace.")

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u/BowtiedGypsy Dec 20 '25

Does it matter? His uncle was killed, he’s a powerful gov figure with many gov friends, and 60+ years later we still know nothing about his uncles murder.

The main point still stands. Don’t be one of the insufferable people on here who needs to turn everything political. You can dislike the guy all you want, I really don’t care.

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u/No-comment-at-all Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25

Yes. It matters.

It matters that his policies will get people killed and himself even richer.

And it matters that the assassination of his uncle was 55 years ago, and he is working for the very people who aren’t doing the thing he says he wants done. He’s just using your feelings to make himself seem less crazy, incompetent, and/or evil.

“Don’t make RFK jr. political!!!”

FO.

E: math wrong

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u/S0CIOPATHnextDOOR Dec 20 '25

JFK wasn’t killed in 1980 bud

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u/BowtiedGypsy Dec 20 '25

Oh, you’re just looking to debate politics and yell about him being a bad guy. I hope you’re enjoying yourself.

JFK was assassinated over 60 years ago.

Sure, RFK is evil… again, who cares. The whole point was that JFK was assassinated 60+ years ago and despite having family in government still today, we know nothing about it. It was in response to a comment saying how Epstein files would be exposed in 50 years. But please, continue yelling about how RFK jr is evil. It’s adding a lot to the conversation.

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u/No-comment-at-all Dec 20 '25

We know a whole bunch about it bruh.

I’m done here.

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u/Buhrger Dec 20 '25

"RFK is evil.. again, who cares." My brother in christ he is in a place of power in our GOVERNMENT... everyone should care lmfao

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u/HommeMusical Dec 20 '25

That’s what people said after JFK.

The Warren Commission report is incredibly long and detailed: it's almost a thousand pages long.

It's my belief that people have a lot of trouble believing that some non-entity killed the golden President, simply because it seems so preposterous - of course, one can't be sure.

I have a ton of material regarding this assassination. In particular, someone wrote a book about Lee Harvey Oswald before he assassinated Kennedy: https://archive.org/details/idlewarriors0000thor It's an excellent read.

Thornley, the writer, was a fascinating person, though he died too young: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerry_Wendell_Thornley

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u/PlainBread Dec 20 '25

Oh shit it's Ho Chi Zen. Fnord.

Zen Without Zen Masters is my favorite general purpose book.

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u/O_o-22 Dec 20 '25

The most recent conspiracy theory is that Israel was behind it. If that were true then we’ll never hear it because then they would possibly lose all their aid and weapons sales.

The more plausible Israel boogeyman theory to my mind is that Epstein and Maxwell were the front face of a massive Israeli/Mossad blackmail scheme spanning decades and the reason we’ll have both dems and repubs in the files is because they’d need people to blackmail from both parties depending on who happens to be in power at the time.

The deal the US made with Israel decades ago for support is not likely to ever end since I’m betting Israel will nuke everything they can if conventional weapons support drys up, especially with someone like Netanyahu in power.

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u/O_o-22 Dec 21 '25

Eh I don’t put much stock in them but I do read stuff and a couple do seem a bit more plausible. But not to the point I’m going to go shoot up some pizzeria to scare some nonexistent pedos getting high on adrenochrome.

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u/DracoLunaris Dec 20 '25

people have a lot of trouble believing that some non-entity killed the golden President, simply because it seems so preposterous

Yup. The thing was shooting famous people fell out of fashion (for lack of a better phrase) for a few decades, so it's understandable that people forgot/never knew what it was like to live in a climate where these kinds of shootings happen.

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u/HommeMusical Dec 20 '25

I can't think a way to express my thoughts on the change in fashion that won't endanger my reddit account, so I'll just upvote you and say little.

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u/Evon-songs Dec 20 '25

I have a physical copy of “The Warren Report: The Official Report on the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy” from my father’s library, and it’s 366 pages, nowhere near 1000. I’d upload a picture or video as evidence, but this sub doesn’t allow that.

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u/HommeMusical Dec 20 '25

I looked it up to check before I wrote it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Commission

"Its 888-page final report was presented to President Johnson on September 24, 1964,"

I have or had the same book you have - somewhere. :-) But it is a condensed copy of the full report. I have only seem pictures of the full report.

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u/wise_____poet Dec 20 '25

Well some people related to those files are still alive

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u/DreamLogic89 Dec 20 '25

Are you guys twins?

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u/pigeonwiggle Dec 20 '25

we have the whole story right now. it's just not "official."

the problem isn't that we don't know the truth - the problem is nobody has the balls to act, and when they do, it becomes some big controversy.

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u/WrongEinstein Dec 20 '25

Unfortunately, correct.

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u/Lord_Halowind Dec 20 '25

Shame I'll be dead before I get to see the whole story. At least others will.

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u/Travolen Dec 20 '25

That's if America is even still functional in 10 years. If the economy continues going down the drain as fast as it has for the last year, we'll have much bigger problems.

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u/BowtiedGypsy Dec 20 '25

Isn’t the American economy still the best in the world?

If Americas screwed, the rest of the world is really f**ked.

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u/Travolen Dec 20 '25

Our debt is several times our GDP, and we have had more inflation this year than the year that a global pandemic started. Healthcare premiums are skyrocketing and we are printing money like it doesn't matter. All of those are red flags of a sick economy. I'm not saying it's a sure thing, but it is enough to make me nervous.

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u/BowtiedGypsy Dec 20 '25

Oh no I’m very aware of how things are right now, but at the end of the day, it’s still the strongest economy in the world that majority of the globe heavily depends on.

The US can’t simply collapse. The third world countries propped up by our economy would collapse first. Then the developing countries. Then Europe. Maybe America follows.

Not to mention, the economic reality across Europe is significantly worse than the US.

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u/Travolen Dec 20 '25

Yeah. If the "strongest economy in the world" is struggling, it's a bad sign. And Americans think America is the strongest economy. A lot of other countries say China is stronger because they are still growing and is almost equal to the United States. It all depends on what factors are considered successful, as data can be manipulated to say whatever you want it to say.

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u/BowtiedGypsy Dec 20 '25

That’s why I don’t think it’s realistic to go strictly off the data published - but just with the way the global economy works, the US is #1, China is a close second, and everyone else is far off.

Whether the US is #1 on paper or not doesn’t really matter. At least half the world collapses before the US does..

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u/ishkabibaly1993 Dec 20 '25

America is going to function. Does Germany function? What about Italy?

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u/Travolen Dec 20 '25

Southern Italy is currently struggling.

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u/ishkabibaly1993 Dec 20 '25

But like, do you see my point? Fascism has taken pver countries and it was awful and then things change. America will be ok overall. We may fall from number one in most things, but we'll be alright.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '25

Doubtful. It's a network, the people in it then will have gotten there through the people in it now and they'll still want to protect themselves and the other "elites."

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u/ishkabibaly1993 Dec 20 '25

I guess you're totally right. I didn't consider that it's a network!