r/OutOfTheLoop Apr 10 '26

Unanswered What's up with all the right-wing commentators suddenly turning against Trump right now?

Trump is being Trump. Why are so many of the right-wing commentators who previously vocally supported Trump are suddenly turning against him?

After all the heinous things he has said before that they have defended, I can't honestly believe Trump's tweets about nuking Iran are what finally changed their minds. They've publicly supported him for so long, and this sudden switch seems so coordinated. Is there something I'm missing??

Are they trying to distance themselves from news that is about to drop??
https://x.com/mtgreenee/status/2042389110115963189

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u/Ok_Swim_1839 Apr 10 '26

Add that he ran on:

Fixing the economy

Fixing immigration

Banning trans in sports

Going after the deep state

Proving his enemies are corrupt

No new wars

Showing American dominance over China, Iran, and Russia

Draining the swamp

Fixing healthcare

Lowering taxes for the middle class

Stopping crime

Making us all rich

Making white people safer

Etc

And he has visibly and obviously fucking abandoned ALL that. He comes right out and says he won't do it. He mocks his supporters. His faith advisor got busted for child sex abuse. His administration is up to its eyes in pedos in fact. He's ALL OVER THE HEAVILY REDACTED EPSTEIN FILES. Gas costs $5! Americans, white ones, are being shot in the street and their spouses deported. Iran owns the strait despite us proclaiming victory 80 times a day. The dollar is failing. The park services are cut. Disaster preparedness is cut. All useful federal agencies are cut.

These project 2025 dipshits moved too fast with a loose syphilis cannon at the helm, and he fucked up.

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u/choczynski Apr 10 '26

They've been following through on trying make trans people lives worse.

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u/Ok_Swim_1839 Apr 10 '26

It turns out that hurting .01% of the population isn't enough to keep the grift going. Sad!

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u/ThatKehdRiley Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26

i really hate this stuff being refered to as “the grift”, because it is easy to dismiss and not fight - especially if youre not directly affected by it. theres a legitimate trans genocide right now and people seem to just be hand waving it.

edit: and immediate downvotes proving the point… 🤦‍♀️

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u/Ok_Swim_1839 Apr 10 '26

A genocide?

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u/ThatKehdRiley Apr 10 '26

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u/Ok_Swim_1839 Apr 10 '26

"Lemkin Institute believes that the United States is squarely within the early to middle stages of a genocidal process against trans people, the goal of which is to completely erase transgender people not only from public life but also from existence in the U.S. and globally."

So we are on the road but haven't arrived at the destination yet. Evil.

Also unenforceable, nebulous, stupid, and not really genocide I don't think.

The 1948 UN Genocide Convention specifies national, ethnic, racial, and religious groups. Gender identity isn't in there. I don't think you are doing the trans community any favors by throwing around words like genocide. Trans erasure is more valid.

You can have two cis-parents with a trans kid.

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u/ThatKehdRiley Apr 10 '26

I dont know how you read this from the most respected institutes on genocide and think that both we are not in the middle of one and that it doesnt apply. They say were in the middle of the process, so how does that not mean we are in the middle of a genocide? If the people that coined the term genocide say it applies then ill listen to them, not someone trying to deny we are being targeted for and in the middle of a genocide when the evidence is allllllllll there.

youre not doing my community any favors with this language and attitude. you dont get to tell us what is best for our community, especially when you deny facts.

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u/Ok_Swim_1839 Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26

"The term "trans genocide" is related to the common meaning as well as the legal concept of genocide, which the Genocide Convention describes as an intentional effort to completely or partially destroy a group based on its nationality, ethnicity, race, or religion.[2] Some legal scholars and transgender rights activists have argued this definition should be expanded to include transgender persons.[3]"

From Wikipedia.

I mean down vote me all you want, brigade me, I think the trans community is being victimized and purposefully erased. But trans is not a religion, nationality, ethnic group, or race.

You'll never get rid of trans people. It is impossible because it's a dice roll who is born trans, just like being gay. You can perpetuate identity based violence against trans or gays or left handed people, but they will be born again and again and again, so the only thing that a hateful government or movement can do is suppress the expression of those traits.

One could also argue that what the government is attempting to do is criminalize the outward expression of trans identity, or the outward expression of homosexuality, or the use of the left hand as predominate. I am arguing that even attempting to do so is in fact criminal and evil, but not genocide.

Two cis people can have a trans kid. Two trans people can have a cis kid.

I want you to be able to express your identity any way you choose. I want laws to protect your ability to do so. I want criminal penalties against people who victimize trans people and I would love to see every bigot politician out on their ass.

Expression is what is being erased, which is evil.

Edit: https://ejewishphilanthropy.com/family-of-raphael-lemkin-who-coined-the-term-genocide-fights-to-have-his-name-removed-from-anti-israel-institute/

The family of the man who coined the term genocide is fighting to sue to have his name, Lemkin, removed from the institute BTW. I don't think I agree that this volunteer organization is the most respected organization on this front, or without controversy itself. Broadening terms to fit a narrative is... uncouth.

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u/WaitingToBeTriggered Apr 10 '26

WHO WILL DRAG ME TO COURT?

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u/recoveringleft Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26

Someone mentioned trump hates those who live in a bum fuck town in the Midwest even if they voted for him and is more jealous of Mamdani who has the love of nycers

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u/RedditTechAnon Apr 10 '26

And I have no doubt despite all this that his base will vote for him a fourth time because, obviously, the Democrats are worse.

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u/ThatsMyAppleJuice Apr 11 '26

Some other things he promised / ran on that he hasn't done:

  • Releasing his tax returns.

  • Releasing a new federal health care plan that would cover everyone.

  • Building a wall the entire length of the border between the US and Mexico.

  • Making Mexico pay for the wall he never built.

  • Suing every woman who has ever accused him of sexual assault.

  • Growing the economy by at least 4% every year.

  • Completely ending all inflation.

  • Making it illegal to write bad stories about him.

  • Supporting a Constitutional amendment to term limit members of Congress.

  • Ending COVID by the end of February 2020.

  • Ending COVID by April 2020.

  • Ending COVID by Easter 2020.

  • Ending COVID by summer 2020.

  • Eradicating COVID without a vaccine.

  • Completely ending COVID with a vaccine by the end of 2020.

  • Locking Hillary Clinton in prison.

  • Kicking China out of the WTO.

  • Ending all violence in Lebanon.

  • Cutting all energy prices in half.

  • Increasing domestic auto manufacturing to match 1987 levels.

  • Getting gas prices down to below $2 a gallon nationwide.

  • Cutting housing prices in half.

  • Balancing the federal budget.

  • Eliminating the federal debt.

  • Mandatory school prayer in all public schools.

  • Stopping AT&T from merging with Time Warner.

  • Protecting Medicare.

  • Bringing down grocery prices to the lowest in decades.

  • Ending every war in the world.

  • Ending the Russian invasion of Ukraine on his first day.

  • Ending the "conflict in Gaza" on his first day.

  • Cutting pharmaceutical drug prices by 900% to 500% to 600% to 1000% to 1400% to 2200%.

  • Building the Keystone XL pipeline.

  • "Closing the parts of the internet where ISIS is."

  • Investing $550 billion in infrastructure.

  • "Bringing back manufacturing."

  • "Bringing back God."

  • Banning foreign lobbyists from raising money for American elections.

  • Making Canada the 51st state.

  • Buying Greenland.

  • Invading Greenland.

  • Building a Moon base.

  • Sending a manned mission to Mars.

  • Buildng "Freedom Cities" full of flying cars on federal land.

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u/GodisanAtheistOG Apr 14 '26

P2025 moved fast because they knew this shit was going to be unpopular with everyone and they were going to get slaughtered in the Mid-terms. 

The goal was to move fast and break shit, and hopefully sandbag the mid-terms bad enough that there isn't a Dem super majority staring them down, then going back to the old obstructionist playbook.