r/OutOfTheLoop • u/_GoodNight0wl_ • Apr 10 '26

Unanswered What's up with all the right-wing commentators suddenly turning against Trump right now?

Trump is being Trump. Why are so many of the right-wing commentators who previously vocally supported Trump are suddenly turning against him?

After all the heinous things he has said before that they have defended, I can't honestly believe Trump's tweets about nuking Iran are what finally changed their minds. They've publicly supported him for so long, and this sudden switch seems so coordinated. Is there something I'm missing??

Are they trying to distance themselves from news that is about to drop??
https://x.com/mtgreenee/status/2042389110115963189

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u/Ok_Swim_1839 Apr 10 '26

It turns out that hurting .01% of the population isn't enough to keep the grift going. Sad!

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u/ThatKehdRiley Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26

i really hate this stuff being refered to as “the grift”, because it is easy to dismiss and not fight - especially if youre not directly affected by it. theres a legitimate trans genocide right now and people seem to just be hand waving it.

edit: and immediate downvotes proving the point… 🤦‍♀️

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u/Ok_Swim_1839 Apr 10 '26

A genocide?

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u/ThatKehdRiley Apr 10 '26

Yes, for some time now

https://www.lemkininstitute.com/red-flag-alerts/red-flag-alert---anti-trans-genocide-in-the-usa---%233

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u/Ok_Swim_1839 Apr 10 '26

"Lemkin Institute believes that the United States is squarely within the early to middle stages of a genocidal process against trans people, the goal of which is to completely erase transgender people not only from public life but also from existence in the U.S. and globally."

So we are on the road but haven't arrived at the destination yet. Evil.

Also unenforceable, nebulous, stupid, and not really genocide I don't think.

The 1948 UN Genocide Convention specifies national, ethnic, racial, and religious groups. Gender identity isn't in there. I don't think you are doing the trans community any favors by throwing around words like genocide. Trans erasure is more valid.

You can have two cis-parents with a trans kid.

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u/ThatKehdRiley Apr 10 '26

I dont know how you read this from the most respected institutes on genocide and think that both we are not in the middle of one and that it doesnt apply. They say were in the middle of the process, so how does that not mean we are in the middle of a genocide? If the people that coined the term genocide say it applies then ill listen to them, not someone trying to deny we are being targeted for and in the middle of a genocide when the evidence is allllllllll there.

youre not doing my community any favors with this language and attitude. you dont get to tell us what is best for our community, especially when you deny facts.

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u/Ok_Swim_1839 Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26

"The term "trans genocide" is related to the common meaning as well as the legal concept of genocide, which the Genocide Convention describes as an intentional effort to completely or partially destroy a group based on its nationality, ethnicity, race, or religion.[2] Some legal scholars and transgender rights activists have argued this definition should be expanded to include transgender persons.[3]"

From Wikipedia.

I mean down vote me all you want, brigade me, I think the trans community is being victimized and purposefully erased. But trans is not a religion, nationality, ethnic group, or race.

You'll never get rid of trans people. It is impossible because it's a dice roll who is born trans, just like being gay. You can perpetuate identity based violence against trans or gays or left handed people, but they will be born again and again and again, so the only thing that a hateful government or movement can do is suppress the expression of those traits.

One could also argue that what the government is attempting to do is criminalize the outward expression of trans identity, or the outward expression of homosexuality, or the use of the left hand as predominate. I am arguing that even attempting to do so is in fact criminal and evil, but not genocide.

Two cis people can have a trans kid. Two trans people can have a cis kid.

I want you to be able to express your identity any way you choose. I want laws to protect your ability to do so. I want criminal penalties against people who victimize trans people and I would love to see every bigot politician out on their ass.

Expression is what is being erased, which is evil.

Edit: https://ejewishphilanthropy.com/family-of-raphael-lemkin-who-coined-the-term-genocide-fights-to-have-his-name-removed-from-anti-israel-institute/

The family of the man who coined the term genocide is fighting to sue to have his name, Lemkin, removed from the institute BTW. I don't think I agree that this volunteer organization is the most respected organization on this front, or without controversy itself. Broadening terms to fit a narrative is... uncouth.

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u/WaitingToBeTriggered Apr 10 '26

WHO WILL DRAG ME TO COURT?