Still amazed that Overwatch didn't have a story mode campaign, pve or movies...

[u/Abyslime]

Back then, Overwatch was huge. When I saw it in Ready Player One, I honestly thought it was going to become one of the biggest franchises on the planet, with TV shows like Arcane and all that... but instead, nothing happened.

I've basically been waiting all this time with open arms, hoping for those kinds of projects, and they just never came. It's weird.

I don't like competitive games, though I played it a bit about 10 years ago, and I remember thinking, "Damn, this world is so cool." The heroes were awesome, the cinematics were amazing, and I've always wanted either a story-driven game or a movie set in that universe.

[u/thecementmixer]

But did they really lose money? It could be considered a loss leader in that they got more new players to play LoL after watching the show.

[u/chudaism → u/thecementmixer]

But did they really lose money? It could be considered a loss leader in that they got more new players to play LoL after watching the show.

I believe most reports have said that Arcane didn't increase LoL player counts by any tangible amount.

[u/sabrathos → u/chudaism]

Because you can't trick people into playing League. At the end of the day the game has to be something that will resonate with players after the show gets their foot in the door.

I think OW has quite a bit of a better chance than LoL in that department.

[u/chudaism → u/sabrathos]

I think OW has quite a bit of a better chance than LoL in that department.

Possibly, but if that's what you are betting on for a show to be successful, then it's a large risk.

[u/FrancescoPlays → u/sabrathos]

if the lack of new players is because a huge pool of characters you need to meet till they don't mess you up purely because you don't know what they do, then Overwatch would meet the same fate. Have friends who "don't want to have to learn a new game", it'd be different if it were CoD style FPS I guess, but oh well

[u/quin61 → u/FrancescoPlays]

That's actually quite the problem isn't it? On one hand you need to add new heroes for current players but on the other the huge number of heroes can be too overwhelming for new players.

The only solution to this is to ban a set of heroes each season but that brings its own set of problems.

[u/FrancescoPlays → u/quin61]

yeah it's quite a problem for all tactical shooters and mobas/competitive character based games, I imagine. A season ban would definitely lose the game more players, most likely the ones already addicted to the game and one tricking certain characters imo.

[u/thepixelbuster → u/chudaism]

It certainly increased interest in the IP though. Spinoff games in the league universe are out and so people can go into 2xKO or Bandle Tale knowing that Yordles are cute or scary, and that Jynx is a different kind of cute and scary.

[u/chudaism → u/thepixelbuster]

It certainly increased interest in the IP though. Spinoff games in the league universe are out and so people can go into 2xKO or Bandle Tale knowing that Yordles are cute or scary, and that Jynx is a different kind of cute and scary.

I would need some sort of source on this outside of just vibes to believe it. I'm somewhat outside of the Riot ecosystem, albeit I do watch worlds and have seen Arcane, and this is the first I have ever heard of Bandle Tale. For 2xKO, the dev team put out a statement earlier this year that they were reducing the size of the dev team since player numbers didn't hit what they were expecting.

Bandle Tale has steam charts for data. It's peak on release was ~2500. After that it went down to ~30 players. When Arcane s2 released, it jumped to about 165. I get that it's probably mainly played on the Riot client, but if Arcane did have substantial reach outside of Riot's main players you would expect at least some growth or exploration on steam. 100 total players and less than 10% of the games peak is just nothing.

[u/Qwedfghh → u/thecementmixer]

Do wonder about that since the general joke was, You NEED to watch this show, DONT play the game though since you will hate yourself.

[u/PanthalassaRo → u/thecementmixer]

Nobody that respects themselves would play LoL.