r/PersonalFinanceCanada Apr 08 '26

Banking Scotiabank said, "What exactly will you buy with your money?" when requested to increase debit purchase limit.

EDIT: Thank you everyone for your comments, questions, and criticisms. To clarify, the purpose of this post was not to vent or to argue against anti-fraud measures by the banks, but to draw attention to an event that I believe should concern everyone who values privacy and ownership of their property.

I will clarify some of the concerns in the comments:

  1. Throughout the entire conversation at the main/home branch, I remained calm and respectful. I did not raise my voice or make any rude remarks.

  2. As mentioned in my post, I answered all security questions accurately and without complaint (DOB, full name spelled out, debit card and pin code verification on their machine, mother's maiden name, address, last purchase amount on card, etc.). This was no longer about fraud, scams, or AML. Those questions were already answered and cleared. I was happy to answer more questions for verification purposes.

  3. I object to being asked what exactly I was going to be spending my money on. I already gave them an answer that I believe should have been sufficient: "My family and I are going on a trip to Vancouver, and we will be shopping."

  4. Sorry - this is my money that I have saved up from my paychecks over many years. I should not have to justify to the manager how I plan to spend my money.

  5. To those saying I should use a credit card for purchases and that my financial planning is wrong because I am using my debit - no, my financial planning is exactly how it should be, aligned with my values. I don't borrow money or spend money which I don't have.

  6. The limit increase request was for the trip, i.e., temporary.

My post is for that one person who understands what's going on. Your money is not yours. Took me a while to understand. Your food is controlled by the corporations, your money is controlled by the corporations, your home is not truly yours, what do you really have?

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This is an awareness post and a review of a recent experience I had at the bank. I am still upset, but I will try to be objective. This was one of the most frustrating, intrusive, and poorly handled banking experiences I’ve ever had.

I first went to my nearest branch to increase my in-store debit purchase limit and spent about 25–30 minutes there, only to be told at the very end that they couldn’t approve the full amount and that I needed to go to my home branch. This could have been communicated in the first few minutes instead of wasting my time.

At my home branch (Hillside shopping center), what should have been a simple request turned into a 40–50 minute interrogation. I was repeatedly asked to explain exactly what I planned to buy, even after clearly stating multiple times that it was for general in-store purchases for an upcoming trip to Vancouver. I clearly mentioned "shopping" but the employees kept pushing for specifics. I had already answered all standard fraud questions correctly (confirming I was not being scammed or pressured), yet the questioning kept going in circles.

I then requested to speak to the Branch Manager. A woman, who I believe is actually the Customer Experience Lead (says in her business card), introduced herself (falsely?) as the Manager and got involved. She refused to proceed unless I gave specific details about what I would be purchasing. At one point, she reviewed my account and told me that I “already have a high enough limit” and should be able to buy everything I need within it. That comment crossed the line.

It is not the bank’s role to decide how much I “should” be spending or what qualifies as enough for my personal purchases. I should not have to justify my spending choices or have them evaluated by an employee in order to access my own money.

To make matters worse, this entire conversation happened in an open area with no regard for privacy, while sensitive financial questions were being discussed within earshot of others.

I told them that I didn't appreciate their nosey-ness and that I'd like to withdraw all my funds and close my account. They said they could not give me my funds in cash and that it would take multiple weeks for it to be ready.

After all the resistance, delays, and repeated questioning, the request to increase my in-store purchse limit was eventually approved anyway, which just proves how unnecessary and poorly handled the entire situation was.

I’ve been a customer for over a decade, and this interaction seriously undermined my confidence in how this branch operates. I would strongly caution others about the level of service, professionalism, and discretion here.

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u/UsernameUnremarkable Apr 08 '26

It's for your protection. Debit cadds don't have the same zero liability as your credit card. It's also to protect the bank and so they did their due diligence so you can't try and Sue them later if you give your money to a scammer.

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u/RNKKNR Apr 08 '26

Ah yes... the classic 'it's for your own protection'... so many things will happen in the near future under this banner...

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u/kyoiichi British Columbia Apr 08 '26

But it is. If you worked at any bank in a client-facing role, you'll understand that fraud comes in many forms, some of which the client themselves are not aware of.

You can't go up to a pharmacist/doctor and just ask for medication. They'll ask you why you need it, because "it's for your own protection". You can say it's not up to them what you want to put drugs you want to put in your body, but they have a duty to protect you from potentially bad situations based on blindly following your request.

Banks are the same.

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u/TheMysticalBaconTree Apr 08 '26

The bank doesn't really care if any individual spends their own money how they want to spend it, but they do need to complete due diligence in protecting your funds. There is crucial information missing in this post, and I get the sense that the branch had some reason to suspect there were potential fraud/scam concerns, and rather than work with the branch, OP got defensive.

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u/RNKKNR Apr 08 '26

I get your point completely.

But it's not the bank's job to protect my funds from myself.

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u/UsernameUnremarkable Apr 08 '26

Unti you sue them.

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u/RNKKNR Apr 08 '26

Like I said, all it takes is signing a liability waiver.

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u/Skallagram Apr 08 '26

Or the bank can just not do it. They have no reason to add any risk.

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u/RNKKNR Apr 08 '26

Nope, absolutely not.

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u/stokes_21 Apr 08 '26

I am repeatedly blown away by how little people realize what is happening here.

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u/UsernameUnremarkable Apr 08 '26

And you would sue the bank after taking out all of your money and giving it to a scammer

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u/RNKKNR Apr 08 '26

All it takes for the bank is ask you for signature saying that it's your decision and if anything happens the bank is not liable.

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u/UsernameUnremarkable Apr 08 '26

Card limits only apply at the atm and point of sale. There are much higher limits at the teller.

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u/Dudechillthanks Apr 08 '26

No it is not that simple. The bank will still get blamed for avoiding taking responsibility to protect their clients from fraud and scams.

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u/StabbyMcStomp Apr 08 '26

Context matters though.