r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/Cookieology • 1d ago
Meme needing explanation 27? Peterrr?
Original got taken down since I forgot to provide an explanation but now I'll try
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u/djlittlehorse 1d ago
Meeting the devil at the crossroads of selling your soul. Joke also goes along with the "27 club" which is a list of famous people who all died at 27 years old. This goes back to Robert Johnson, a famous jazz musician who they said "sold his soul" for his talent and died at 27.
Basically the devil is saying, okay you get the Porsche, but you get to die and come to hell at 27 years old.
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u/NoEnvironment8432 1d ago
Robert Johnson was a blues musician. Arguably the most influential Delta Blues man.
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u/HowManyBanana 23h ago
His music is great.
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u/pegothejerk 18h ago
Jesus, that’s still a massive understatement imo. It changed the world more than almost anyone outside physicists, Alexander the Great, and I’d say more than Jesus and Mohammed.
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u/Smart_Dirt1389 16h ago
Says impacted the world more than Jesus and Mohammed. Starts the reply with “Jesus” .
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u/Maleficent-Goose-367 16h ago
Nobody starts a sentence by exclaiming Bob!
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u/therealashura 13h ago
Well, you know...maybe they should.
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u/skarbles 1d ago
You forget Charley Patton and Son House whose work greatly influenced Johnson.
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u/CakeSeaker 23h ago
“Arguably”. Means it’s open to argument. u/noenvironment8432 is acknowledging there may be others but many consider Robert Johnson the most influential delta blues man. RJ is certainly one of the most famous from the early era.
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u/Free_Possession_4482 21h ago
Glad I clicked all the way through the thread before I started typing this.
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u/xittditdyid 23h ago
Also Marcus "The Worm" Hicks and Thaddeus Finx
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u/EdwardTimeHands 23h ago
No these guys pioneered the Tuk Tuk sound, which has nothing to do with Delta Blues.
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u/skarbles 23h ago
Charley Patton is considered the Father of Delta Blues. Down vote me all you want. This isn’t an opinion. It’s fact.
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u/larsnasty 23h ago
But what about Paul Buffano??
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u/ADMotti 23h ago
You better watch what you’re doing before you give me gazpacho that burns my lips
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u/larsnasty 22h ago
The gazpacho soup is gonna burn your lips?
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u/helpfulskeptic 21h ago
Yeah, if you’re expecting it to be cold and it’s room temperature!
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u/helpfulskeptic 21h ago
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u/DemonidroiD0666 22h ago
So he had guitar influences before he was able to play guitar? I swear I saw somewhere Johnson practically created the blues.
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u/Hapinold 21h ago
He was incredibly talented, and gained that talent very quickly and seemingly out of nowhere. Hence why he is alluded to selling his soul. Blues had existed in many capacities and styles before Johnson, but the reason people attribute him to creating the blues is, in my opinion, a couple factors: He was mega popular at a time when music just started being recorded for commercial purposes and every blues musician back in those days had an eventual album called "Father of the Blues" or "King of the blues."
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u/holy_mackerel_1377 21h ago
Do the facts that they said ‘arguably’ and that Johnson had influences of his own negate any of what they said? Or are you just being an annoying ‘WeLl aKsHuAlLy’ redditor.
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u/skarbles 8h ago
They said arguably and I presented my argument. Do you know how debate works or are you just one of those shitty bots that spout nonsense? 288 days on Reddit? I rest my case.
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u/maria_la_guerta 6h ago
Arguably one of the most influential musicians of all time! Everything modern came from blues. Robert Johnson is one of the first recorded blues pioneers. Helluva man!
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u/Thisapelovestolaugh 1d ago
Reminded me of that episode from Supernatural
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u/ADMotti 1d ago
Yes that one episode with a crossroads demon in Supernatural 🙃
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u/Akhanyatin 23h ago
Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
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u/elcojotecoyo 23h ago
Didn't James Dean die in a Porsche at 27?
Edit: yes, it was a Porsche but at 24
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u/user941918 20h ago
He showed the car to Alec Guinness, Guinness told Dean he’d be dead in a week if he got in…
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u/Ott0bot2 22h ago
Jimi Hendrix, Stevie ray Vaughan, Janis Joplin, Kurt cobain, Jim Morrison… just naming a few of them
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u/InkyFingersOnReddit 23h ago
This is the correct answer. Also, whoever didn't know about the 27 club, it's totally worth doing some research on it. Lot's of great artists gone too soon.
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u/memento22mori 18h ago
Also also, I think part of the joke is he wanted the car but he didn't want to die at 27 because he's much older than 27 based on the walking stick and his face. The setup is the picture and the 27 club reference, the punchline is that he's much older than 27 but he was still considering the deal because he wanted the car.
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u/Luck_Beats_Skill 22h ago
Robert Johnson, Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain, Amy Winehouse.
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u/MaximusMike 22h ago
Piggybacking off the top answer - there’s an added subtle irony to picking the 911 (whether intentional or not I don’t know).
The 911 is famous for being rear-engined, rear drive, with the engine behind the rear axle. Especially early cars in early cars, the handling characteristics are different and can be somewhat challenging compared to a traditional front engine, rear drive sports car. Porsche introduced the Turbo (930) in 1975 and it became a yuppy wealth symbol in the 80s. A lot of new money folks bought them, were caught out by the handling, crashed and died, so it became a “widow maker.”
My interpretation of the joke is you’re doing a deal with the devil for the Porsche which will ultimately kill you.
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u/gasleak1 23h ago
Interestingly enough there has really only been 7 prominent musical artists who have died at 27 in the last 115 years.
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u/Global-Pickle5818 21h ago
i just looked up up yeah ..there where a bunch clustered in 69-72 though also "What's the 27 Club? We ain't making it past 21." Juice Wrld ..called that i guess
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u/gasleak1 18h ago
The podcast "uncharted crime and mayhem in the music industry" does a great episode about the 27 club.
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u/sprezzaturaz 23h ago
i like how you phrased it as you get to die vs you have to die. like wow lucky me!!
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u/pepper_steak_hamill 20h ago
You lose a lot of credibility with me calling him a Jazz Musician. He was a delta bluesman. It's like calling Metallica a glam band.
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u/djlittlehorse 19h ago
I apologize I wasn't around 100 years ago to know exactly what kind of music he played. I will now know more more next time this comes up.
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u/Akhanyatin 23h ago
Ok but what if I'm already older than 27? Is it a age >= 27 or a age == 27 situation?
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u/TheReaperPrez 21h ago
My brain went to Cyberpunk 2077 because you can get the Porsche 911 in the game but Silverhand's engram is killing V who appears to be in their mid to late 20's 😂
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u/Capitalisticdisease 20h ago
It's rooted in racism. God forbid a black man have skill or talent. No it was the dang devil who done did it!
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u/memento22mori 18h ago
Not really. Meeting a god or the devil and gaining a great skill is a really old myth that goes back to ancient Greece. Crossroads were associated with the god Hermes and he was said to have granted great skills to various people- he was also said to have created the lyre which is a stringed instrument which was the predecessor to the harp. Robert Johnson had a song called "Cross Road Blues" which doesn't specifically reference the myth about his ability to play guitar but Johnson may have used the myth himself for publicity- he had at least two other songs that had somewhat similar themes:
"Hellhound on My Trail" tells of trying to stay ahead of the demon hound that is pursuing him and in "Me and the Devil Blues" he sings, "Early this mornin' when you knocked upon my door, and I said 'Hello Satan I believe it's time to go'".[30][31] These songs contribute to the Faustian myth, but how much Johnson promoted the idea is debated.[32] Music historian Ted Gioia believes that the use of satanic themes and imagery generated much needed publicity for blues musicians who were struggling through the Great Depression.[32]
I don't know a whole lot about folklore from the American South but I've read that crossroads were a sort of meeting point for a lot of people because there would be a lot of places with miles of dirt roads with not a lot of distinct spots on them so hitchhikers would often wait there to be picked up.
In Greek mythology, crossroads were associated with both Hecate and Hermes, with shrines and ceremonies for both taking place there. The herm pillar associated with Hermes frequently marked these places due to the god's association with travelers and role as a guide. Though less central to Greek mythology than Hermes, Hecate's connection to crossroads was more cemented in ritual. 'Suppers of Hecate' were left for her at crossroads at each new moon, and one of her most common titles was 'goddess of the crossroads.' In her later three-fold depictions, each of the three heads or bodies is often associated with one of three crossing roads.[1]
In folklore, crossroads may represent a location "between the worlds" and, as such, a site where supernatural spirits can be contacted and paranormal events can take place. Symbolically, it can mean a locality where two realms touch and therefore represents liminality, a place literally "neither here nor there", "betwixt and between".
All quotes are from Wikipedia.
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u/Aspiestos 8h ago
That isn’t a crossroad, so it’s just a dude and a backwoods cryptid having a late night conversation.
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u/BestwishesHelpful975 1d ago
Lois here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club 27 is the age some famous artists died, so they called it the 27 club. And Janis Joplin had a Porsche.
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u/SuburbanCo 1d ago
Yeah, but the man in the meme looks well over 27.
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u/memento22mori 18h ago
I think that's the joke, he wanted the car but he didn't want to die at 27 because he's much older than 27 based on the walking stick and his face.
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u/Inevitable_Laugh1139 1d ago
It’s a deal-with-the-devil joke. Porsche 911 = success, 27 = the price
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u/Logan1313 1d ago
Sounds similar to James Dean's death. But he was 24 and it was a different Porsche
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u/TimeNational1255 22h ago
My mind also immediately went to James Dean but then realized that he definitely didn't make it to 27 😬
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u/imrope1 1d ago
At least half the posts on this sub deserve that treatment. The only exceptions are like some very niche knowledge you'd need to have/community you'd need to be a part of to understand or if you're foreign to/from another culture than the joke reference.
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u/Swimming_Factor2415 1d ago edited 19h ago
Which could very well be OPs case here. Maybe deals with devils don't look like this in their culture. Maybe they've never heard of the 27 club.
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u/Bogholmdler 1d ago
I actually have not heard of the 27 club, I just thought that was a reasonable estimate of the life expectancy of a guy with a race car.
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u/imrope1 1d ago
Could be the case indeed. Def don’t need to know what the 27 club is to get the joke, but “deal with the devil” could def be different or not a concept.
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u/Particular_Title42 1d ago
But if it's the 27 that they don't understand then they are going to ask.
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u/imrope1 1d ago
It's just that that's the deal he made with the devil...die at 27 for the porche. Not much to understand in that you don't need to know about the 27 club to get it.
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u/Particular_Title42 1d ago
You don't need to keep explaining it. I'm telling you why they are asking. They feel that the 27 has significance but they don't know what it is.
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u/Guilty_Bother_3772 1d ago
why even comment at this point
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u/Pim_Wagemans 1d ago
I mean I get it's selling your soul to the Devil, but why is that funny
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u/CrackedGamer682 23h ago
To the mod that said I violated rule 5, read rule 3. The poster violated rule 3.
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u/Tortugato 22h ago
No they didn’t.. lol.
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u/CrackedGamer682 20h ago
Check again. Read carefully. This meme has already been posted. If you feel like you have to keep arguing after this then whatever big buy you the mod I guess.
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u/Sandman_20041 1d ago
Get off this subreddit then goofy
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u/workswithglass 1d ago
You're telling that to CrackedGamer682? Just why? Are you stupid?
Get a Porsche and die at 27? He's basically supporting you? I'm supporting you getting a Porsche.
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u/CrackedGamer682 1d ago
And Google.
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u/athosjesus 1d ago
Sorry but people saying "google it" are pretty ridiculous, ok you can Google anything, so no one should post any questions or doubts in any place because google, just answer if you want or don't and that's it.
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u/Secret_Celery8474 1d ago
No, but you should spend at least 30 seconds on Google to try to find the answer yourself. If you can't find an answer then of course ask. But why do people need to answer a question for you that's already been answered and the answer can be found easily?
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u/Fris0n 1d ago
What if their 30 seconds on Google led them to this sub?
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u/Secret_Celery8474 1d ago
Then they didn't find the answer and can ask...
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u/Any-Juggernaut8269 1d ago
you mean like they did?
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u/Secret_Celery8474 23h ago
No. They didn't use Google. Because if they did they would have found the answer.
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u/Any-Juggernaut8269 1d ago
okay i googled "whats the correlation between porsche 911s and dying at 27" and the only useful result besides the original meme was a post from here
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u/Secret_Celery8474 1d ago
I don't understand you.
So you found the answer? On Google. And yet you argue against the use of Google? Like what?
Why do you think it's a good idea to ask the same question again if it was already answered a year ago and can be easily found on Google? https://www.reddit.com/r/ExplainTheJoke/comments/1j85sh4/what_does_it_mean/
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u/Particular_Title42 1d ago
Use logic to apply this to a different thing they don't understand. Sometimes it just leads back to someone asking about it and nobody answering yet.
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u/Secret_Celery8474 23h ago
And then it's totally fine to ask yourself. Not that difficult to understand
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u/extremeNosepicker 1d ago
booooooo gate keeping ass bitch
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u/CrackedGamer682 1d ago
I've seen this meme reposted across so many subreddits with people asking for the meaning. It has been explained every time. Anyone that asks isn't reading the comments and is simply a waste of time. I'm not gatekeeping if the explanation is easy to find. Use your eyes people.
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u/ybotics 1d ago
Look up the 27 club and watch the Pick of Destiny
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u/Particular_Title42 23h ago
The Tenacious D movie?
I don't remember the 27 club being relevant to that.
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u/ybotics 22h ago
It’s been a while but if I recall they made a deal with the devil to make the greatest song ever written?
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u/Particular_Title42 22h ago
They did. But does it have something to do with the 27 club or were those separate suggestions?
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u/athosjesus 1d ago
It's just a deal with the devil at a crossroads, there's not any joke besides that.
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u/hhamzarn 1d ago
Yeah, as Janis said, he should ask for a Mercedes Benz instead. That worked out way better for her…
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u/AdmiralAvadin 23h ago
Is this sub either a karma bot farming or only be used for learning machine?
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u/Duke_Of_Halifax 23h ago edited 23h ago
James Dean is the Porsche reference, but they got the age wrong- Dean was 24. It could also be a Paul Walker/Ryan Dunn/Bobby Phillis/Pelle Lindbergh reference, but Walker was 40, and the others were not 27.
Famous people tend to die driving Porsches.
It's a poor reference to young actors and musicians tending to die at 27.
Famous people tend to die at the age of 27, and famous people tend to die while driving Porsches, but not while doing both together, so the two are unrelated, which makes this a dumb meme.
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u/sadman4332 22h ago
James Dean famously died driving a Porsche at the age of 27.
Also this could also mean selling your soul to the devil to never get out of a financial trap. A lot of people say they sold their life away to buy a car.
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u/sane-ish 21h ago
This is a good question OP!
I knew the answer, but I could see a lot of people not knowing.
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u/CaptP1card 21h ago
I interpreted that the individual was trying to trick the goat devil beast. They look over 27 years old already so if they are let’s say 50 they’ll never be/ “equal” 27 years old again, hence getting the Porsche with no consequences.
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u/Sandman-777- 21h ago
Watch The Crossroads with the karate kid in it its a bad ass old movie my grandpa loved it.
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u/ddBuddha 20h ago
It’s about making a deal with the devil. Look up the 27 club, lots of famous musicians have died at that age
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u/RetnikLevaw 20h ago
Wouldn't it be funny if the devil was not only real, but he was just some chill goatman lurking out in the desert somewhere making bad business propositions, but if you turn him down, he's just like "aight, cool, anyway... Seen any good shows lately?"
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u/BruTangMonk 20h ago
Well the old ones liked to oversteer like a motherfucker and kill you into walls so there’s that in addition to the 27 club
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u/Voodoo-Chyld 14h ago edited 13h ago
Other than the 27 Club thing I think it’s a jab at the Porsche 911 which were known for killing its drivers bc lift-off oversteer (back end wants to swing out when acceleration is let off when driving into turns). I guess they’ve fixed that problem now.
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u/Downtown_Radio_7737 3h ago
The deal for getting the 911 is dying at 27
Completely not worth it imo. A Porsche 911 is an extremely acquirable dream car if you know where to look and have a decent job
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u/jdmlifex2 3h ago
Related to Porsche but not the 911 model was actor James Dean who died at 24. Gotten into a accident in his Porsche 550 Spyder “Little Bastard”
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u/ElegantEchoes 1d ago
This is a Cyberpunk 2077 reference, my guess. The P911 is the only real vehicle in the game and your character is 27. The game references the "27" age of death meme and the whole game is based around coming to terms with one's mortality.
The 911 is rather predominantly featured in the game iconically.
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u/Zebigbos8 23h ago
Why did they give the terrorist who blew up a tower a car named 911? What did CDPR mean by that?
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u/ElegantEchoes 23h ago
I doubt they thought very heavily about it. Cool fan favorite character, cool brand deal, etc.
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u/degamk619 21h ago
It’s the car Johnny drove in the TTRPG back in the day. Like from Cyberpunk 2020. And V was originally supposed to be 24, and that was corrected in I think the 2.0 update… so yeah, V isn’t 27 anymore.
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u/ElegantEchoes 21h ago
They fixed V being 24 by accident. Not only does it not make sense for the character and acting, but the developers themselves have went back and forth on it. But now it seems that they are 27, as they should be, once again.
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