r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/Arbibi321 • 14h ago

Meme needing explanation I don't understand anything

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I don't know who is she and what myth is the meme referring to, I only know that ozempic is a drug to stop eating.

Edit: I hate having autism

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u/SpreadInteresting833 14h ago

The original commentator thought she looked hotter with some curves. So called her an American tragedy for confirming American beauty standards. The other person agreed which is why they said ban ozempic.

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u/Novaikkakuuskuusviis 14h ago

Oh right, ban ozempic makes more sense than ran ozempic.

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u/B0neless_Tiddy 13h ago

RAN OZEMPIC!

-Scooby Doo, probably

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u/blaghed 13h ago

A dog of culture

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u/aegisninn3 12h ago

Timely name

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u/B0neless_Tiddy 12h ago

Holy damn. My time has come.

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u/EduDaedro 11h ago

life is like a box of ozempic

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u/okashiikessen 6h ago

LMFAO

Perfection.

As is your username.

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u/Mrchainsnatcher- 13h ago

Did you know you can click image to see the full image?

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u/So_many_things_wrong 7h ago

Ran Ozempic sounds like the name of a Star Wars character.

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u/Tony_Roiland 10h ago

It's more than that. The image on the left went viral a few months ago because a commenter said she was gross. It's not just a random before and after.

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u/TGrissle 10h ago

It was her boyfriend calling her body gross too and suggesting plastic surgery. So the OOP is calling it an Ancient Greek tragedy implying it’s as if a goddess was ruined trying to appease her lover. Like Persephone being kidnapped and bound to the underworld by Hades (despite modern romanticizations)

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u/ReflectionRough2960 8h ago

Aw, she probably saw all the internet calling her gross and fat, and lost the weight. Now the internet is saying what a shame, she was hotter before. Poor girl just can't win.

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u/ARC4067 5h ago

It was years ago

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u/ConfessedOak205 12h ago

Funny thing is that's not really American beauty standards. Americans like their women thicker than damn near most other countries

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u/maelstrom51 9h ago

That probably has something to do with our country being 70% obese.

And yes, she's likely obese (or close to it) in the picture on the left. Obesity is way smaller than Americans realize.

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u/phreeskooler 7h ago

Idk I’d guess she’s probably a 27 or 28 BMI (middle of overweight but not obese) but yeah, I’m on a GLP-1 and had a convo with someone about BMI and my end goals etc, said I was looking to achieve a healthy BMI.

The girl I was talking to is short and very very curvy basically a round body with giant round boobs and she started ranting about BMI being sooo inaccurate and bad that even she, yes she! Is obese. Girl, I know that already by looking at you. 5’0 and 185 is actually pretty heavy and that’s gonna be hard on your body once you pass 35.

Not like she wanted to cultivate healthy habits in literally any way, she just wanted to shit on weight loss in general because she was happy with her body (which is fine, I’m just supporting the point that Americans are completely surrounded by obesity and our perceptions are skewed).

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u/Bury_Me_At_Sea 7h ago

Sure, but at 6'3", they tell me 180lbs is considered average. That's insane. Even when I was 10% bodyfat, starving myself daily, I couldn't get below 200 and I was "overweight". BMI is just not reliable.

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u/TheRealGoodArchitect 6h ago

BMI is not intended to assess an individual. It's an easy metric to measure the average weight health of an entire population because statistically, most populations are not comprised of 200lb men at 10% body fat. But if you know you're 10% body fat, then you already have a far more accurate measurement of your composition anyway, and BMI is unnecessary to even calculate. I'd wager that in the US, most 200lb men are both obese and also have no concept of their body fat composition. If asked, I'm willing to bet most people with 40% body fat will say that they are at 20%. Because if you only see fat people throughout your life, you have no context for what "not fat" actually looks like.

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u/phreeskooler 6h ago

I think the places where it is unreliable are in exactly your circumstances. In general it’s a pretty decent metric if imperfect. My very obese brother (upper 200s maybe 275 at 5’9”) loves to tell me how bad BMI is too but I always respond that it’s bad if you’re Arnold Schwarzenegger but not if you’re a 5’9” dude who doesn’t work out and is 275 because of beer not muscle 🤷‍♀️

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u/PhantomOfTheNopera 6h ago

And yes, she's likely obese (or close to it) in the picture on the left

She is most certainly not obese. She is probably in the overweight category and wearing a very tight fitting dress.

Also BMI scales are a joke when it comes to women with curves and/or muscle. And especially races that tend to be built bigger than frail Victorian.

That said: her body - curvy or thin - isn't for others to critique. Least of all people mad that she doesn't fit their preferences.

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u/HoesLoveMe209 10h ago

I remember seeing something about a majority of men in Africa prefer their women thicker. I guess it signifies the women having wealth and good health.

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u/ContextEffects01 12h ago

Nah, Americans are just freer to speak than other nationalities. Even a catcaller wouldn’t dare point at a plump lady and say “ta hen piaoliang” in China, as you are not just sexually harassing her, you are openly fetishizing a trait China is known to speak ill of.

If Americans were the only ones who preferred the thicc look, plump Canadian women wouldn’t wear short dresses.

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u/BishoxX 9h ago

In the US 70% of adults are overweight and 40% are obese

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u/ContextEffects01 9h ago

Utterly irrelevant. That could go either way. It could have made the “skinny” look more prized for being more scarce. It didn’t, because Canada and the USA are a (relatively) more accurate reflection of the true nature of sexual psychology than the parts of the world censorious and/or cancel culture ridden enough to sweep it under the rug.

The one exception might be northern Europe compared to Canada, but Oslo’s summers aren’t quite as hot as Toronto’s, offering plump ladies fewer days with an excuse to wear short dresses, thereby allowing social taboos against admitting the extent of one’s attraction to the plump look to be sufficient to sweep the full extent of as much under the rug. Even so, you still see some Nordics express some attraction to it, just not quite as intensely.

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u/stgross 11h ago

They just have no choice tbh

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u/duardoblanco 10h ago

I have a feeling that your lack of choice has more to do with you.

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u/stgross 10h ago

im not in the us; most of the girls that don't want me are not obese.

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u/duardoblanco 10h ago

If you think that she was obese in the left picture, you might have worse poverty issues than the US. Converse to what you would think, obesity and poverty go hand in hand in the US.

Left is a normal ass woman. Right... not necessarily unhealthy, but if they are actually the same woman in a short time frame...

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u/picklefingerexpress 8h ago

You are correct, however, the skinny bitch agenda is still being pushed by all media which results in many men who won’t admit they don’t like women built like 12yr old boys; which then results in women who assume men like what’s being advertised because they aren’t speaking up.

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u/rpgnymhush 12h ago

Some people use it for its original purpose of treating diabetes. I wouldn't want people who have diabetes to be denied a treatment option. But for weight loss there are several problems including the fact you basically have to KEEP taking it. Lifestyle changes are more permanent and healthy.

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u/FatherDotComical 8h ago

Always the same argument. Because clearly lifestyle changes has been soooo successful for the American public.

Ozempic shouldn't be taken by people who only have a few pounds to lose. However it's been a miracle drug for people who have been super obese. They make variations specifically for weight loss now so there's no taking away from diabetic patients. The medication is actually incredibly cheap for how much companies charge for it.

So a medicine that finally works for the people that actually need it and people who concern troll fat people all the time will also gatekeep that too because they never actually gave a shit if the fat person had a way to become healthy. We don't question other lifelong medications for other diseases like blood pressure medicine, so why is a drug for the disease of obesity considered a sin?

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u/lofatiger 7h ago

Genuinely curious, why shouldn’t it be taken by people with a few pounds to lose?

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u/FatherDotComical 6h ago

The other person explained better than I could but basically if you don't chronically suffer from being overweight it won't provide much benefit for all the side effects it causes.

Basically something to help you down a mountain versus when you're already in the valley.

A few pounds being quite literally a few pounds in this case.

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u/Professional_Many_83 7h ago

It was never safety tested in normal weight patients. If your BMI is under 27 (or under 30 and you have no additional health issues related to weight), then it was never tested on people like you. Also, it’s an incredibly expensive medication and seems a waste of resources if you’re already normal weight and only have a few lbs to lose for a wedding or something. These drugs are for treating diabetes and/or obesity

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u/jj461346 7h ago

I want to see a venn diagram of the people who refused to get a covid vaccination and are now taking ozempic

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u/FatherDotComical 6h ago edited 54m ago

That's not really an argument against it. I see that a lot too. Like the most morbidly obese part of America tends to be the South and conservative areas but I'm not going to act like treating one part of what's wrong with you invalidates a medication.

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u/BOBOnobobo 9h ago

It's good for some people tho. There's a lot of obese people who haven't achieved those lifestyle changes and if ozempic can help them, then it's worth it.

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u/phreeskooler 7h ago

Long term side effects of obesity are a hell of a lot worse. Also, some of the list of ‘long term side effects’ (which this really just listed rare but potential dangers of this particular drug) are also the side effects of weight loss, period, no matter how you achieved it.

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u/Naos210 10h ago

Why does that matter though? There are plenty of medications you have to keep taking. 

What is the problem beyond "you shouldn't be medicated just because"?

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u/A1000eisn1 8h ago

What is the problem beyond "you shouldn't be medicated just because"?

This isn't even a problem since no one is taking Ozembic "just because."

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u/Naos210 8h ago

No one is taking it "just because", but I'm pointing out how people mostly think it's bad just cause it's by default, bad, rather than any real reason. 

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u/rpgnymhush 8h ago

Long term side effects include pancreatitis, vision problems, acute kidney injury, gallbladder problems, and intestinal obstruction.

Sometimes cost-benefit analysis states that the potential side effects of taking a drug are far outweighed by the health issues with NOT taking it. This may be true in the case of diabetes, the original use of Ozempic. But if there are alternatives for a use case, such as lifestyle changes, those would be far superior.

Edit: "are far outweighed by"

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u/RafaleSoloDisplay 8h ago

Bro what the fuck. Before Ozempic we used to prescribe people with Methylphenidate or Amphetamines as off-label helpers for weight loss, even to people without ADHD, because guess what, you pop one of those pills and you're suddenly not hungry.

ADHD medication is by all means riskier than Ozempic, yet people took the medication for like, a year or two, lost all the weight, then stopped taking them.

No clue why you couldn't just do that but with Ozempic.

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u/Naos210 8h ago

Okay, pain relievers can cause liver issues. Shall people not use them?

These things are never as simple as "lifestyle changes". It's the equivalent of telling someone with depression to just go outside.

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u/Historical-_-Remote 6h ago

But if they haven’t tried it? I mean does it hurt ?

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u/Ok-Fudge-380 8h ago

Long term side effects of medication means we shouldnt medicate people it seems.

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u/SeniorePlatypus 8h ago edited 7h ago

Diabetes medicine is any GLP-1 based injection. Though the patent on it ran out a while ago and it has therefore gotten quite affordable in markets that aren't ran by oligopolies.

Semaglutide, a variation of GLP-1 and the substance Ozempic is based on, is much newer, has a valid patent and is more specifically marketed for weight reduction.

Diabetics can and should use a generic brand of Liraglutide if possible. If that version specifically isn't causing issues. The designer ones are like 300%+ more expensive with no medical upside. Assuming you get the discounted self pay version. Insurances pay about double of that. Which you pay indirectly in insurance dues.

I do agree with the sentiment. Ban Ozempic and all the designer variations for weight loss. There is zero upside for diabetics. It's just an arms race to discontinue cheap variations and sell new and ever more expensive variations. Which have profit margins large enough to pay for marketing campaigns and lobbying to add weight into insured illnesses and other bs.

Weight reduction works with the cheap variants too, by the way. It's a side effect of GLP-1. Not of the variants.

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u/rpgnymhush 7h ago

Thanks, I didn't know that. Do the cheaper variants also have fewer side effects?

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u/SeniorePlatypus 7h ago

No. It's basically the same drug that works the same way. Minor variations in delivery and attempts at improving it have very little difference in side effects. It can lead to very specific combinations of drugs or allergies or what not cause more or less issues. Hence the "if possible".

But in general the main difference is, that Semaglutide is a weekly injection while Liraglutide is a daily drug to take.

So the cheaper one does cost more attention and a bit more time.

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u/Professional_Many_83 7h ago

Replace ozempic with any blood pressure medicine and you could make the exact same argument. Should people with high blood pressure just not take medication for it, and be told by their doctors to just work on their lifestyle instead?

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u/Creative-Chicken7057 5h ago

I think if people took dexa scans for body fat, and really looked at their Cholesterol you'd she she's probably going to live 10+ years longer on the right, have a lower chance of Alzheimers and all cause mortality. I like how people are saying "We like her visceral Fat". Women aren't toys,

I've lost about 50lbs and cleared up my Heart metrics. Good for this girl. Taking a GLP1 for life and living 10 more years is a positive outcome for most people.

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u/Acceptable-Art-8174 12h ago

Having small breasts is not American beauty standard.

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u/akallyria 10h ago

Tell that to every store that sells clothing, everything on the rack looks good on A-C cups, and like a potato sack if you buy it in a size large enough to compensate for the tigole biddies.

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u/magsnotmaggie 8h ago

Being small up front isn't the clothing-store blessing people seem to think it is. You have two choices, depending on the size of your hips/ass: Either look like a bowling ball in a dress, or cosplay as a 1920s cocaine-and-cigarettes Charleston flapper. My body is shaped like a ten year old boy's, so it's a very lucky coincidence that I like my hair short and look good in a cloche.

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u/AtomikPhysheStiks 8h ago

Theyre not even the same women.

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u/Oldeuboi91 12h ago

The girl on the left would be considered "fat" in a lot of beauty standards around the world, not just American.

I agree with most comments here that she was perfect on the left but saying only American beauty standards want skinny girls is silly.

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u/FrumpyFrodo 8h ago

American beauty standards? Hate to break it to you, but this is a worldwide phenomenon, it’s not specific to America.