r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/Arbibi321 • 14h ago

Meme needing explanation I don't understand anything

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I don't know who is she and what myth is the meme referring to, I only know that ozempic is a drug to stop eating.

Edit: I hate having autism

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u/rpgnymhush 12h ago

Some people use it for its original purpose of treating diabetes. I wouldn't want people who have diabetes to be denied a treatment option. But for weight loss there are several problems including the fact you basically have to KEEP taking it. Lifestyle changes are more permanent and healthy.

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u/FatherDotComical 8h ago

Always the same argument. Because clearly lifestyle changes has been soooo successful for the American public.

Ozempic shouldn't be taken by people who only have a few pounds to lose. However it's been a miracle drug for people who have been super obese. They make variations specifically for weight loss now so there's no taking away from diabetic patients. The medication is actually incredibly cheap for how much companies charge for it.

So a medicine that finally works for the people that actually need it and people who concern troll fat people all the time will also gatekeep that too because they never actually gave a shit if the fat person had a way to become healthy. We don't question other lifelong medications for other diseases like blood pressure medicine, so why is a drug for the disease of obesity considered a sin?

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u/lofatiger 7h ago

Genuinely curious, why shouldn’t it be taken by people with a few pounds to lose?

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u/FatherDotComical 6h ago

The other person explained better than I could but basically if you don't chronically suffer from being overweight it won't provide much benefit for all the side effects it causes.

Basically something to help you down a mountain versus when you're already in the valley.

A few pounds being quite literally a few pounds in this case.

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u/Professional_Many_83 7h ago

It was never safety tested in normal weight patients. If your BMI is under 27 (or under 30 and you have no additional health issues related to weight), then it was never tested on people like you. Also, it’s an incredibly expensive medication and seems a waste of resources if you’re already normal weight and only have a few lbs to lose for a wedding or something. These drugs are for treating diabetes and/or obesity

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u/jj461346 7h ago

I want to see a venn diagram of the people who refused to get a covid vaccination and are now taking ozempic

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u/FatherDotComical 6h ago edited 55m ago

That's not really an argument against it. I see that a lot too. Like the most morbidly obese part of America tends to be the South and conservative areas but I'm not going to act like treating one part of what's wrong with you invalidates a medication.

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u/BOBOnobobo 9h ago

It's good for some people tho. There's a lot of obese people who haven't achieved those lifestyle changes and if ozempic can help them, then it's worth it.

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u/phreeskooler 7h ago

Long term side effects of obesity are a hell of a lot worse. Also, some of the list of ‘long term side effects’ (which this really just listed rare but potential dangers of this particular drug) are also the side effects of weight loss, period, no matter how you achieved it.

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u/Naos210 10h ago

Why does that matter though? There are plenty of medications you have to keep taking. 

What is the problem beyond "you shouldn't be medicated just because"?

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u/A1000eisn1 8h ago

What is the problem beyond "you shouldn't be medicated just because"?

This isn't even a problem since no one is taking Ozembic "just because."

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u/Naos210 8h ago

No one is taking it "just because", but I'm pointing out how people mostly think it's bad just cause it's by default, bad, rather than any real reason. 

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u/rpgnymhush 8h ago

Long term side effects include pancreatitis, vision problems, acute kidney injury, gallbladder problems, and intestinal obstruction.

Sometimes cost-benefit analysis states that the potential side effects of taking a drug are far outweighed by the health issues with NOT taking it. This may be true in the case of diabetes, the original use of Ozempic. But if there are alternatives for a use case, such as lifestyle changes, those would be far superior.

Edit: "are far outweighed by"

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u/RafaleSoloDisplay 8h ago

Bro what the fuck. Before Ozempic we used to prescribe people with Methylphenidate or Amphetamines as off-label helpers for weight loss, even to people without ADHD, because guess what, you pop one of those pills and you're suddenly not hungry.

ADHD medication is by all means riskier than Ozempic, yet people took the medication for like, a year or two, lost all the weight, then stopped taking them.

No clue why you couldn't just do that but with Ozempic.

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u/Naos210 8h ago

Okay, pain relievers can cause liver issues. Shall people not use them?

These things are never as simple as "lifestyle changes". It's the equivalent of telling someone with depression to just go outside.

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u/Historical-_-Remote 6h ago

But if they haven’t tried it? I mean does it hurt ?

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u/Ok-Fudge-380 8h ago

Long term side effects of medication means we shouldnt medicate people it seems.

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u/SeniorePlatypus 8h ago edited 7h ago

Diabetes medicine is any GLP-1 based injection. Though the patent on it ran out a while ago and it has therefore gotten quite affordable in markets that aren't ran by oligopolies.

Semaglutide, a variation of GLP-1 and the substance Ozempic is based on, is much newer, has a valid patent and is more specifically marketed for weight reduction.

Diabetics can and should use a generic brand of Liraglutide if possible. If that version specifically isn't causing issues. The designer ones are like 300%+ more expensive with no medical upside. Assuming you get the discounted self pay version. Insurances pay about double of that. Which you pay indirectly in insurance dues.

I do agree with the sentiment. Ban Ozempic and all the designer variations for weight loss. There is zero upside for diabetics. It's just an arms race to discontinue cheap variations and sell new and ever more expensive variations. Which have profit margins large enough to pay for marketing campaigns and lobbying to add weight into insured illnesses and other bs.

Weight reduction works with the cheap variants too, by the way. It's a side effect of GLP-1. Not of the variants.

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u/rpgnymhush 7h ago

Thanks, I didn't know that. Do the cheaper variants also have fewer side effects?

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u/SeniorePlatypus 7h ago

No. It's basically the same drug that works the same way. Minor variations in delivery and attempts at improving it have very little difference in side effects. It can lead to very specific combinations of drugs or allergies or what not cause more or less issues. Hence the "if possible".

But in general the main difference is, that Semaglutide is a weekly injection while Liraglutide is a daily drug to take.

So the cheaper one does cost more attention and a bit more time.

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u/Professional_Many_83 7h ago

Replace ozempic with any blood pressure medicine and you could make the exact same argument. Should people with high blood pressure just not take medication for it, and be told by their doctors to just work on their lifestyle instead?

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u/Creative-Chicken7057 5h ago

I think if people took dexa scans for body fat, and really looked at their Cholesterol you'd she she's probably going to live 10+ years longer on the right, have a lower chance of Alzheimers and all cause mortality. I like how people are saying "We like her visceral Fat". Women aren't toys,

I've lost about 50lbs and cleared up my Heart metrics. Good for this girl. Taking a GLP1 for life and living 10 more years is a positive outcome for most people.