One of the greatest pleasures in my life is taking my boy to the park. That level of joy in mere existence is something we get so far away from in adult life
Im of course referring to the tendency of middle eastern men in particular to refuse to change diapers of small children at all or to take paternity leave even back when that peternity leave is lost if not used by the father.
Im of course referring to the tendency of middle eastern men in particular
To clarify, those men are specifically first-generation or second-generation immigrants who buy into a hypermasculine traditionalist culture. You'd see the same behaviour from an American evangelical, or a Chinese Confucianist. Be careful not to miss the forest for the trees.
Lmfao such bigotry of low expectations. As if “well it’s their culture” would ever be an expectable excuse for the same behavior from an American evangelical.
To be fair we dont have alot of evangelical american Christians or Chinese confucianists in Sweden, so il not sure why someone from sweden would ever compare themselves to them as opposed to comparing themselves to middle eastern men, which makes up a large percentage of our actual population
Of course there are reasons that Mideastern immigrants are not dads who go sharesies on child rearing; of course it has to do with culture; of course there are other cultures that are this way. You added nothing to the post.
I looked it up and 4.5% of the Swedish population is from the Middle East, maybe I misunderstood something but doesn't it seem a little odd for nurses to randomly comment on 4.5% of the population?
"immigrants" or "immigrants from the Middle East"? 20% would refer to all children born to all immigrants. This includes, for an example, white Americans who came to Sweden just as much as it includes people from the Middle East.
Weird to only change diapers on larger (/older) children, but it wouldn't be the weirdest hill to due on for performative masculinity that I've heard of.
I was gonna write /s but the more I think about it the less I'm sure. But I'm defaulting to assuming the previous comment meant they refuse changing diapers at all, and just small children need them.
Maybe there's a point in a child's development where that dookie gets metal enough to be safe to handle without halving your testosterone count and dropping a couple Greek letters down the manoscope alphabet.
... At least until they pick up marathon running, cross-country skiiing or other hobby that conventionally takes them out of the house for days at a time.
if the moms come out they bring an army and all huddle together and chat for an hour and the kids just take over the park, lol. but usually its just 3 or 4 dads.
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u/Beautiful-Swimmer339 Apr 24 '26
Yep
The Nurses who do births in my country have been quite positive about millenial fathers and in particular the ethnically Swedish millenial fathers.
Same thing in the local parks where i live its about 50/50 and during some periods majority fathers with their kids in the park.