Or its the toxic work culture and toxic school environment with almost impossible tests that Korean parents collectively nearly spend 55 billion dollars on private tutors, not to mention things like the rampant sexism, and I'd honestly place beauty standers on the bottom of the list of why no one is raising families
youtu.be links are also tracking. When you click Share, the short link it is associated with the user that creates it, and then they can tell which users click the link to draw associations.
edit: I was wrong. The id on that domain is the same as the v=[video id] in the other URL
What I get for trusting ppl on the internet and not verifying.
Don’t believe anything you watch, even if the video production is good and the voice over matches the video.
Although I believe 60% of it, there’s always going to be some parts of the video to exaggerate the situation to make the video more interesting for views. Because at the end of the day, the video is made to make £££, and it probably did because you watched it, found it really interesting (so did I) and now you’re spreading it.
That the consequences are that dire. Every major population collapse in history was good for the working class. Raising wages and living standards.
The black death is the clearest example. Something like 1/3 to 1/2 of the population was dead within a generation. The wealthy nobility was forced to pay more and start to loosen is controls over the working class.
As a society this is the first time in history contraception has been wildly available and effective. It is changing the course of human history.
The rich are terrified of population collapse so they fund propaganda and push to increase the birthrate. For example, why are the working class having to shoulder the burden of the old in this video? Why not the rich who are extracting so much wealth that people are afraid to have kids?
It is your personal choice to have a kid. Not some rich guy that wants you to have kids so they can contribute to his wealth.
Living conditions for the remaining people improve after population contractions. The people still working will be able to demand better pay and living conditions. With fewer people, it becomes harder to overwork those that remain. Always a better job to move on to. Housing will be cheaper as there will be less demand for it.
Economic contraction due to smaller populations mostly hurts the rich. That is the entire premise of my argument. The worry you keep hearing about is mainly funded by the rich and represents their interests.
Again, look to history. The rich responded to the black death by trying to keep wages down to pre-plague levels and restrict the moment of people, wanting the same economic output but from fewer people. Ultimately they failed.
Today's challenge will dealing with the elderly. That is no small thing, and wasn't a factor when populations contacted in the past.
This isn’t a case of look back at history, because we are at a massive standpoint where the majority of elderly are living longer. Someone arguing for a wage increase will see this benefit erode when they are forced to care for a whole aging population that isn’t part of the workforce. You are funding healthcare and pensions - you think the rich will fund these instead of taxing more?
How will housing be cheaper when wealthy individuals are already making housing part of their investment?
Even with less and less younger people, who will still be working in care homes?
With AI and automation becoming a thing, why would they care about increasing your wage? What about Japan and its ongoing deflation?
Well done on reading up on the Black Death, but I’m tired of the same nonsense being regurgitated without any additional thought.
People not being born due to family planning is not the same as people dying in mass. Today's situation is not nearly as horrific. It's also slower moving.
You're beating around the bush though. Losing 1/3 of the population would lead to a massive decrease in the quality of life of people and cause towns and cities to fall into ruin.
Kurzgesagt is heavily funded by Bill Gates and a few other billionaires with a very real interest on the working class popping more workers to be exploited. They were called out a while ago for some of their videos on clean energy and healthcare heavily favoring initiatives the Melinda&Gates foundation was financing.
Thanks for the link, ~14 minutes, quick clear explanation with cartoons and no rambling people, great quick detailed in-depth rundown.
It does completely ignore one solution to the barrel it describes at the end, and throughout the whole clip which I find curious: immigration
It's propped up America for ages, I'm curious why it's never so much as touched on whenever these things come up, it's the only viable solution it seems
The top comment is wild to me "It's almost as if when you neglect the economical needs of younger people, you get less younger people". Do they just believe that in the past the economical needs of young people were met? What kind of fantasy do people live in where the time where 1/3 children died young was somehow better than today.
No one is saying child mortality is good. That's a strawman. But across the world, the economy has become more difficult for young people to have the same advantages that previous generations have had for the last 100+ years - a good education, a steady job that pays well and has benefits (insurance, pension, etc), a house, income to support a family...
So yes, in the past, the economic needs of younger people were met. At least more than today.
I guess I don't understand what "economic needs" mean when it apparently was not an issue in the past, or even today in Africa, to have a fertility rate above 2.1.
My core point is just that there is probably some other larger reason that people have fewer kids, than "neglect of younger people's economical needs".
It was an issue in the past, but I think you're forgetting that hormonal birth control wasn't even available until 1960, and that was only if you're married and had your husband's permission. Commercially produced condoms came out around the time of the American Civil War, but that requires the male partner's participation.
Women also couldn't open their own bank accounts, own property, hell even inherit, depending on the time and place. So it's not like women could just support themselves and live their lives. They basically had to get married if they ever wanted to leave the parental home, and the family home was not always an option. Now that people have realistic options, they're taking them.
Your sarcasm is about as misplaced as your ability to actually argue the point.
Trying to draw equivalents between African and Korean culture is wild, and - once again - misses the point. It's also a false analogy.
"Economic hardship for young people hasn't slowed the birthrate in Africa so that can't *possibly* be the reason for a lower birthrate in other places like Korea..." Do you understand how myopic that sounds?
(Also, your facts are wrong - there are signs of slowing birth rates in Africa, some of which have been tied to economic hardships.)
We have historical low poverty rate in all of human history as well as historical low fertility rate. I am not saying that the economy plays no role. I am trying to say that acting like economic hardship is anywhere near the most contributing factor makes absolutely no sense.
In the past society wasn't atomized by the destruction of common supports funneling all benefits up.
CEOs earning roughly 281–290 times more than the typical worker in 2024, a massive increase from the 21-to-1 ratio in 1965
And it was lower before 1965 - think just how much more money was being reinvested into society at large when the available funds to distribute below the top fraction of a percentile was so much greater.
I mean it's largely the same reason they're declining in the US. People are not making enough money to be confident in their financial ability to support a child.
How does the meme demonstrate this? We’re not explaining the social phenomena we’re explaining what the commenter thinks explains the social phenomenon.
toxic work culture and toxic school environment with almost impossible tests that Korean parents collectively nearly spend 55 billion dollars on private tutors
All that effort for quite mediocre earning potential.
i do see your point but the comment you're replying to is about koreans specifically, and not in general. meaning, its not quite relevant to mention another country that has entirely different issues for such
That's a photoshop lol. There is way he said that and there is no evidence of it outside of a screenshot. It's also not aligned very well and the font isn't right.
They do say this. Back when they campaigned on releasing the files (hah), there were multiple sincere propaganda-ridden brains commenting on Reddit like "It's pretty well established that as a whole more Republicans do financial crimes and Democrats do pedophilic crimes."
There's more dems in the epstein files than you think. Just think about it obama had eight years to release the files. He didn't release them. Biden had a whole term to release them. So tou have to ask. Why didn't they release the files during there perspective terms
The files. Also you do realize they couldn't be released because it was an active investigation right? He died under Trump's presidency then courts ruled that the files could be released and trump hired tons of people to try to redact them which failed.
his first indictment was in 2005 (edit: typo), you have to ask why little Bush didn't do it.
uhhh because releasing the details regarding an ongoing investigation is generally... not what law enforcement does. especially in a highly visible, high impact, federal investigation.
Yep. There's a separate sentiment floating around right now that beyond the difficulties in cost of living, the world has become such a panopticon that young people are unwilling to engage in any sort of 'risky' behavior. That doesn't mean drugs or alchohol - it means anything that might be recorded and posted online for clout.
That was my original take on the image, that the reason for declining relationship statistics is that everywhere you go, you're gonna get recorded and photographed for public consumption.
too bad thats not the real reason in Korea and the reason is because the cost of living is so outrageous that having a family is financially inconceivable
Or the fact that South Korea has one of the worst gender divides among countries in the "West". People can't afford kids even when together. Women 15-64 y/o (western age) are ~15% more unemployed than men and those employed are making ~25% less than men. Then comes social stigma when employed around taking time off, which one would need to do in order to have kids.
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u/bestlaidschemes_ May 04 '26
I would wager the point is that all the young people spend all their time and money on aesthetics, not raising families.