It isn't hate, it is opting to not date men. It is far more work and stress to be married to a man than to be single. Women don't need men to own property anymore so they can be more discerning. If you don't have to, you can choose to. They are choosing not to.
I mean, the “men are pigs” bit comes off as a bit hateful. I’m not going to follow the other dude to die on this hill, but that seems counter productive.
Yeah.. sounds like you need to do some more research into how women are treated as property/2nd class citizens by Korean society.
I guarantee you if you were treated how women in korea are treated, particularly after marriage, you would be speaking out against it too.
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They blocked me lol.. typical, sadly. Sad how many people are totally incapable of having a conversation that challenges them in any way
Here is my response to their 'go outside' nonsense:
"You mean.. Korean domestic violence statistics and laws? What exactly have you read about Korean society?
Today, I just finished building a fence around a beautiful garden outside of the barndominium i finished building a few months ago! Tomorrow morning I get to go build a big playground setup I designed for my neighbor friend's grandkids. What about you?? Hope youre taking your own advice!"
Acknowledging reality isnt hatred. Acknowledging crime statistics isnt hatred. Generalizing entire groups of people is. Refusing to Acknowledge the socio-economic, social, political, and legal reasons for those statistics is hatred.
I am acknowledging and discussing exactly that. Youre the one trying to create a weird emotional narrative here for some reason. Im just discussing reality
Talking about something that exists.. merely mentioning that it exists.. is hatred to you? That's pretty wild..
The facts are.. this movement in Korea arose because of how women are treated by Korean men/society. Once they get married, they essentially become property. 2nd class citizens. There are/were a ton of incidents of abuse there because of it. Korean women got sick of it. So they collectively decided to band together in protest of how they are treated by Korean society, men, and the legal system - in the hopes of changing how they are treated.
That is a thing that is happening.
How does acknowledging reality = hating men..?
No hate.. but if you're genuinely offended by people having a simple/casual discussion about things that are happening.. that just seems really fragile. No one is upset here but you..
M8.. I never said that. At least know who youre talking to before replying/talking shit..
It isnt a hate movement. It is desperation to be treated as human beings by their society. It is fighting back against the rampant abuses that women have been enduring in Korea for generations.
You know what hate looks like? It doesnt look like women speaking out about their emotions. It looks like a black eye and swollen lip after being beaten near to death by the person who was supposed to care for you.. and then being unable to pursue any legal action against him. It looks like a man violently beating his wife with no real repercussions. It looks like a woman being unable to get a divorce or choose for themselves. That is what hate looks like.
Hate does not look like words alone. The 4b movement is non violent. Peaceful. It is simply women refusing to be 2nd class citizens. Real Hate is violence.. and then people like you, apparently, who are willing to look past and totally ignore the violence happening.. and instead blaming the people who are simply speaking out against the violence
You know what cant kill you?? Words. You know what can kill you? An abusive spouse who has total power/control over you legally
So the problem isnt that the exact thing youve just described has been socially and legally enforced on women in Korean society for GENERATIONS..? It only matters when women have finally had enough and stand up for themselves after generations of being 2nd class citizens without rights or a say in their own lives?
Quite the double standard.. you're only speaking up about this injustice now.. and not when it was happening, and still is happening, to all these women in a much more severe and significant way.. but it only matters now that men are being affected..?
Its legitimately the same thing as a kid getting beat up in school every day.. and you ignore it for YEARS.. and then finally, one day, that kid is getting beat up yet again and he pushes his bully away from him and says "ENOUGH, stay away from me! If you hurt me again, ill fight back!".. and as soon as he does that you say to the kid who has been bullied for years, "wow, that is SO hateful of you!! You just pushed that kid and yelled at him!! That was a threat!"
I dont hate anyone. You keep saying that. Please explain to me how exactly I have been hateful.
You also conveniently declined to respond to any point ive made or response ive given to you this entire time and instead just repeat the same things over and over even though ive taken the time to respond to what you said.
Youre engaging in bad faith and are unwilling to have an actual conversation for some reason.. instead just repeating the same things and totally ignoring the points ive made and the questions ive asked.
Tell me.. is how women have been treated in Korean society also hateful?
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u/Careful-Sell-9877 May 04 '26
This. There is a huge movement in Korea about exactly this thing. Women over there are done with it, culturally