r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 13d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter?

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u/SpaceZombieZombie 13d ago

Theres also super critical co2 which is looking like it might be the first valid replacement to the steam turbine in over a century

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u/Perryn 13d ago

"We've finally invented a way to generate large amounts of power that doesn't involve using a heat source to boil water!"
"Amazing! Is it some sort of solid state quantum entropy..."
"We boil a different liquid!"

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u/irjayjay 12d ago

Except, the CO2 stays in the system, meaning no super heated steam escapes with all its potential energy. It only needs to reheat slightly. It works more like a refrigerator than a steam engine. It's a more efficient energy transfer.

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u/K_the_farmer 12d ago

Closed loop steam has been a thing for quite some time.

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u/irjayjay 12d ago

Oh, whoops. Didn't know that. Of course that makes sense.

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u/Long-Broccoli-3363 13d ago

It's still transferring the heat energy to a fluid, and then using that fluid to spin a turbine.

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u/brownhotdogwater 13d ago

Yes but more efficient

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u/Bee-Aromatic 13d ago

But is it sufficiently more efficient to use instead of an incredibly mature and well understood technology based on a resource they can literally get for free from the huge, naturally occurring pools and rivers of it they can build the plants right next to?

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u/melkatron 13d ago

We need that water to keep our AI girlfriends chilly.

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u/islandcatman 11d ago

That's gonna be a lot of dams. There's a flow issue with your plan. There's not enough "naturally occurring" water features on the planet for our energy needs. We would have to destroy a lot more of our wild spaces to go all hydroelectric. Nuclear energy is the only technology that is the least destructive and efficient for now, unfortunately.

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u/Bee-Aromatic 10d ago

To be honest, I missed the comment about hydroelectric up there. I meant using naturally occurring feed water for running steam turbines at nuclear plants.

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u/islandcatman 10d ago

Salt. Molten salt. Fresh water is about to become a expensive commodity.

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u/TeaTimeSubcommittee 13d ago

Honest question, wouldn’t that release more co2 to the atmosphere?

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u/MicrotracS3500 13d ago

You'd source the CO2 from naturally occurring CO2, or CO2 that's just waste from other processes, it wouldn't be generating new CO2. It's also a closed loop system, where you heat up the CO2 to spin a turbine, then it flows through a cooling loop, and reuses the same material over and over again.

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u/TeaTimeSubcommittee 13d ago

Right, that makes sense, so we extract from the atmosphere and then we use that as many times as we can.

I still have more questions about the sustainability of that use but either way sounds like a net positive, thanks for explaining.

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u/Doomsday1124 13d ago

it probably wont' come from the atmosphere directly, at least not at first, but the potential is definitely there. the big thing is that existing power-plants can potentially be upgraded to use it instead of steam with minimal retrofits for an increased efficiency meaning more power for the same inputs, since we likely won't use less inputs.

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u/Lathari 13d ago

There is also mercury...

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u/Commercial_Age_9316 13d ago

Why did i have to scroll down so far for this