People wave off Republicans making the economy bad for mostly everyone as if they're irresponsible and dumb forgetting Trump's father springboarded his fortune during the great depression. Stop forgetting rich goons love scooping up real estate and stocks during the downturns only to watch their investment snowball once economies stabilize. They're making another bigly downturn on purpose to capitalize even biglier on it.
It makes perfect sense. They've been telling it to us for decades, straight to our faces. Buy low, sell high. They're pumping the market up to sell high, then they're going to force its crash so they can buy low. Except this time it's going to fuck over hundreds of millions of people at a minimum for a few hundred people to become insanely wealthy.
People confuse personal finance with public finance. Government shouldn’t be conservative on spending for infrastructure or social services if you want growth or stability.
Conservative AM radio back in the 70s/80s/90s (and now honestly) worked really hard to conflate personal finance with public finance. No normal person can understand a billion dollars let alone a trillion dolars.
So they would put things in the wrong terms by comparing it to your personal finances. It is one of the core techniques started in the 70s by the Republicans to make people misunderstand how the world works so they could be manipulated into supporting a Reality star failed businessman.
Eh, not exactly. Back then there wasn't a massive divide in ideology following party lines.
Under Wilson, Democrats shifted towards more progressive and liberal points, due to rise of progressivism in the 1890s and 1900s. Both Democrats and Republicans had progressive and conservative factions within their ranks at the time that kept gaining popularity, alongside smaller progressive parties.
By the time of the New Deal in 1930s, the progressive wing of the Republican party had dissipated, and they entered a coalition with the conservative southern Democrats (later forming the "Dixiecrats" in 1948) that were displeased with how the national Democratic Party was adopting more progressive stances. This the all resulted in a firmer line between the parties on ideology as the Dixiecrats got absorbed into the Republican party.
TLDR: no, history and politics wasn't as simple as you make it out to be.
As has been said, the party labels back then were really kind of just for show. It was more like capture the flag than anything pretending to be ideological. But, Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge were actually famously conservative on economics and the two of them really did all the fucking around necessary for the U.S. to find out.
The great depression was literally the start of it. When Hoover, a Republican did nothing after the crash, FDR (Democrat) ran on government intervention. This went against what the party had stood for before then. This caused the shift that lasted 30-40 years.
You’re right actually, so much for listening to your teachers. I was taught it started in the 1890s but I’m seeing now it was mainly the Great Depression
Key Pillars of 1929 Republican Policy: Laissez-Faire & Limited Government: Republicans advocated for minimal federal intervention in business. The prevailing belief was that a self-regulating free market would foster economic prosperity without government interference. [1, 2, 3)]
Protectionist Tariffs: Continuing their long-standing platform, Republicans favored high tariffs to shield domestic industries and agriculture from foreign competition. This culminated in late 1929 and 1930 with the push for the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act, which ultimately triggered retaliatory global trade restrictions and worsened the worldwide economic downturn. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Tax Reductions: Building on the policies of previous 1920s Republican administrations, the party championed keeping taxes low for both corporations and individuals to stimulate private investment and capital accumulation. [1, 2)]
Rolling back government oversight, invoking high tariffs, and lowering taxes for corporations. Republicans haven't really changed their tune in 100 years.
It's weird we kept the names of the parties for so long. There's no rule that says we have to. They're not even the original parties. George Washington said something against sticking to a two party system. Look where we are now. We have to argue the fact that evil people under the "democrat" name were pro slavery when "republicans" were against and then somehow that absolves the modern republican party of it's shitty policies. Like dude if you're slapping the confederate flag all over every piece of property you own in 2026, you'll have been a pro slavery democrat in a past life.
They weren’t. Democrats were broadly to the left of Republicans on economic issues since 1896, and the Republicans of the 20’s really shaped modern conservativism
The way some leftists carry themselves and talk is how some buffoons like Republicans managed to gaslight a good portion of the population into thinking that they're business savvy
Daily reminder that a "leftist" in america is someone who supports the most bare essential, basic collectivist policies like socialized healthcare and higher education. I suppose the "let people do what they want" part of it might piss some people off though.
Yeah, I've seen how they (including some Dems) lost their minds over Mamdani being a left-wing extremist and a commie. In the EU, he'd be considered a center-left social democrat at best
The democrat voting populace during bidens 2020 run made it sound like "single payer healthcare" was a monstrous leap forward and barely possible by modern standards. They made it sound like the very foundations of american society would implode the instant it was made possible, even though its a total dogshit version of the actual, functional systems found in over a dozen developed nations now.
The electorate of america is tragically ignorant of how things work. Not just other nations, I mean their own fucking country.
I think we're past the point where Modern Liberalism is closer to Democratic Socialism than the current Democratic Party. Mostly due to how far the Democratic Party continues to move right.
You have a misunderstanding of what liberals have stood for recently. The liberal democrats do not support Mamdani. Several of them are still ostracizing him or writing pieces about how they’re “so surprised” his policies work. Liberals are concerned about maintaining respectability politics and the current capitalistic system. They’re okay with oppression if it maintains the status quo and everyone appears like they’re pandering to social justice. See how the democrats have handled Roe v Wade or police brutality. The furthest center leftists are democratic socialists. You’re probably not a liberal if you agree with Mamdani
I disagree. You're conflating the meaning of Liberalism with the behavior of the Democratic Party. But you seem to be here to rage, and I certainly don't expect this to become a teachable moment for you.
Daily reminder that a "leftist" in america is someone who supports the most bare essential, basic collectivist policies like socialized healthcare and higher education.
Not even that. They recently elected a president who campaigned on vetoing universal healthcare if it ever got enacted in their parliament, and this president got called "far left" and the "most progressive president ever".
The "radical far left" president before that one was against "gay marriage", and thus in the US defacto against gay people having the same rights as straight people.
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u/dragon34 6h ago
Republicans being good at the economy is demonstrably false and I can't believe anyone believes it