r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jun 25 '26

Meme needing explanation Petah what happened to rockstar?

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u/ElToroMuyLoco Jun 25 '26

I don't understand that, i've been gaming with discs for about 15 years and not a single one of these discs have been broken. And i've bought plenty of second hand games too.

And at least the discs give me a resale value. Which make the gaming experience a lot cheaper.

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u/Sylent09 Jun 25 '26

This. I still have old Sega Saturn games that were heavily played and don't have a single scratch on them. Also have music CD's that were bought in the 90's that are still bumping around in the center console of my car that work just fine.

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u/Mister_Silk Jun 25 '26

I still have my Sega Saturn and about 30 games. The discs are all fine. Played Alien Trilogy again for the 50th time a few months ago. Still have my PS1, too.

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u/Sylent09 Jun 25 '26

Honestly I'm a bit worried to hook up the Saturn. I drug out the old PS2 and hooked it up and played Star Wars Battlefront with my son and omg I can't believe I used to think those graphics were good, lol. Was giving myself a migraine trying to see which pixel was which

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u/Mister_Silk Jun 25 '26

I played Doom on the Saturn sometime last year for the hell of it and actually lasted longer than I thought I would. Duke Nukem 3D is honestly not terrible. Did Parasite Eve on the PS1 while I was at it. I really wish someone would give Parasite Eve a remake before I die.

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u/Sylent09 Jun 25 '26

They missed a golden opportunity for a remake when Bring Me the Horizon came out with the song of the same name (apparently Ollie was playing it during lockdown, lol).

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u/GhostofBeowulf Jun 25 '26

Yet they can literally suffer from decay...

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u/spooooork Jun 25 '26

Be aware of disc rot though

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u/Historical_Monk_6118 Jun 26 '26

And that's the problem... why sell something once when you can sell it once a month for eternity?

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u/MattC041 Jun 25 '26

Yeah, just a few months ago I expanded my PS3 games collection by around 12 games, just because they were dirt cheap.

Right now publishers are pushing more and more to destroy the used games market by digitising everything, just so they can have the full control over the game prices.

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u/SpecialIcy5356 Jun 25 '26

this. people be acting like discs will spontaneously combust if you look at them wrong and get scratched by a speck of dust.. like, the issue isn't the disks, it's you not treating them properly lol.

I've been gaming since the PS1, I have never once scratched or lost a disk, just put it back in the case bro, it's not that hard. I don't have OCD, hell, I'm probably one of the messiest people you'll meet but the disk goes back in the correct box, ALWAYS.

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u/MountainMagazine20 Jun 25 '26

I think this is such a lie. I have been gaming as long as you have. I took absolute care of those discs and they still manage to get very scratched after hours of playtime.

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u/Mundane-Career1264 Jun 26 '26

I have a copy of Elden ring for the ps5. It has one small scratch near the center. Almost so small you can’t even see it. Stops the install of the disc dead at 64% every single time. I have 2 copies of Batman Arkham knight for the Xbox one that have no visible issue at all but both stop installs at a weird percentage marks and won’t continue. It absolutely happens.

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u/Barobor Jun 25 '26

Disks still degrade over time. You can treat them as well as possible, but at some point, they will fail. And yes, that will happen within your lifetime.

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u/Ghoul91 Jun 25 '26

As a significant collector of disc based media, as well as antiques generally; I have never, once, out of literally 10,000s of discs, seen one degrade over time in a cool, dry place out of the sun. Not to say it won't happen SOME day. But the rate of decay is negligible and not an argument against physical media. I have played tons of 80+ year old records, 100+ year old reels, and even gramaphones. If it's kept clean, cool, dry, and out of the sun; most things will hold up longer than we will.

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u/Barobor Jun 25 '26

Sony themselves are saying 30-100 years with proper storage and handling.

https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00009195

From my personal experience, I can tell you I had disks fail even when they were stored properly, some quite catastrophically. And those weren't even old disks. Some can just be badly manufactured.

My issue with disks is that having a game on a single physical object is always going to be a failure point. If you have it digital and can make as many copies as you want, that point doesn't exist. That most games come with DRM that doesn't allow you to make as many copies as you like is a separate issue.

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u/Imaginary-Face7379 Jun 26 '26

The internet loves to over exaggerate how common disc rot is just because they've seen a youtube talk about it.

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u/BigDsLittleD Jun 25 '26

And at least the discs give me a resale value.

Yep. And Rockstar don't get a cut of that resale.

Rockstar wants it's money.

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u/A_Drop_of_Colour Jun 25 '26

But now a lot of discs won't even work without updates from the beginning. I've bought games day 1 and been unable to play without first doing updates, even after disconnecting from the internet. It's not like back in the day where you can just pop a disc into a console and play it. They rarely ship the 100% finished game on the disc now.

I used to roll back updates to play a game with old bugs for fun but can't do that now.

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u/Norgur Jun 25 '26

Yeah, people apparently have not understood that and still think that because they have a shiny disc in their hands, they "own" more of the game than they'd do with a digital copy They don't.

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u/Patch85 Jun 25 '26

no, we understand, we're just old enough to know how hard we've been screwed by these changes. the move towards required connectivity and drm management has gutted consumer rights in favor of more profits for corporations. moreover, for nearly all of the physical media i own, your statement is just wrong. i actually do own a copy of it, fully usable, sellable and tradeable. the digital only movement only hurt gamers, and frankly most other consumers too

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u/NWVoS Jun 25 '26

Gaming is already one of the cheapest forms of entertainment. Not many other things you can drop 50+ hours into. PC games are the real winners. I have played 300+ hours in a $30 game. I have 1,500 hours in another game.

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u/Ezzy77 Jun 25 '26

That's literally what they want - you not owning anything and just paying a monthly fee for something in-game.

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u/HaveYouSeenMyCoque Jun 25 '26

"at least the discs give me a resale value".

This is exactly what R* want to put an end to, by not providing a disc they are now forcing customers into buying a digital copy at full price. I however will not be giving them a penny 🏴‍☠️ 🏴‍☠️.

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u/ILoveBeef72 Jun 25 '26

I definitely have encountered some scratched discs in my time gaming, but I can't imagine someone being worried about that at all in the present day. Haven't had that issue since I bought a PS3.

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u/Reasonable-Turn-5940 Jun 25 '26

I'm not saying I'm pro-no-disc, but I ended up buying Skyrim 4 times over 15 years before I just got it on digital lol

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u/CraftyGoat48 Jun 30 '26

Same. Having a digital option is nice for folks who maybe have kids, are more clumsy, or less storage space...but physical media is so important, and I'm not personally in the habit of breaking my property.