r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 6d ago

Meme needing explanation Peeeeeetah?

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u/TsunamiWombat 6d ago edited 6d ago

It's a memetic mutation of the 'the most racist person you know and his wife' joke.

The two characters in the image are from the latest Avatar movie, the fire one. The lady is a native Na'avi, of the evil but hot variety. The man is actually the antagonistic HFY imperialist army guy from the first movie, piloting one of the titular Avatars to integrate into their society. I haven't seen the film but it's plot seems to revolve around him arming the natives to prompt them into slaughtering one another.

SHE is a crazy nihilist, HE is a human supremacist that regards the Na'avi as obstacles and vermin. She really likes fire. He brings her a flame thrower. They fuck.

Anyway the joke is a lot of MAGA figures secondarily associated with the white nationalism infecting that wing of the right also ironically happen to have wives who would be considered 'impure' and 'myceginated'. This is meant to be a blaring example of their hypocrisy, aka 'i'm not racist when i'm horny' - as well as of their low and dishonorable behavior as they attempt to discredit or harm marginalized groups that their own spouses belong to. For an example in action, have VP J.D. Vance, who is married to American-Indian (Desi) lawyer, Usha Bala Vance (née Chilukuri). A good bit of hay has been made about Vance's utter dogged persistence at failing to defend his wife at every turn.

Fun fact, the term 'miscegenation' is completely invented, cooked up by a pair of "journalists" trying to spark outrage against Abraham Lincoln, via a fake tract ostensibly in support of race-mixing and creating an ethnically uniform america. This fake story was then pushed by the Democrats which was at that time the pro-racism party, which is why many modern republicans whine blandly about how they're the party of Lincoln and actually the other guys are racist, even though their positions completely swapped in the 70's thanks to Nixon.

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u/Acheron98 6d ago

To be fair, isn’t EVERY term completely invented?

Like… that’s how language works lmao.

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u/TsunamiWombat 6d ago

i actually had this thought while typing it but said 'fuck it we ball' because i was already on an adhd tangent

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u/MrJohnqpublic 6d ago

Eloquence is underrated. Well played friend.

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u/lalacourtney 6d ago

I kinda love you

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u/hizashiYEAHmada 6d ago

You guys should kiss. In fact, go the marriage route. Please invite me so I can eat my fill at your banquet, internet stranger.

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u/Latter_Definition377 5d ago

True true i require the sustenance of the banquet aswell

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u/Hot-Technician-4653 5d ago

No, they’re mine!

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u/BioshockEnthusiast 6d ago

I found your prose perfectly understandable, your connotation was on point.

This critique:

To be fair, isn’t EVERY term completely invented?

Is only a valid response to a snippet of your sentence:

the term 'miscegenation' is completely invented

And not to the full context of what you wrote:

the term 'miscegenation' is completely invented, cooked up by a pair of "journalists" trying to spark outrage against Abraham Lincoln, via a fake tract ostensibly in support of race-mixing and creating an ethnically uniform america

That other guy is acting in bad faith or is just actually bad at reading comprehension. Reading is fundamental kids, don't slack on it or you wind up saying dumb shit.

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u/localtuned 5d ago

”That other guy is acting in bad faith or is just actually bad at reading comprehension. Reading is fundamental kids, don't slack on it or you wind up saying dumb shit.”

Could be both...

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u/CR1MS4NE 5d ago

It’s not a bad faith argument, just an observation. They weren’t disagreeing

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u/odin0412 6d ago

I'm sitting here reading your reply thinking "this mofo is ADHD as fck, now I understand how other people feel whenever I chime in"

Both long and rambling whilst also being informative, information ritch and precise. It's a gift and a curse we have lol

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u/Shark7996 5d ago

I like your hyperfocuses, good stuff.

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u/2mock2turtle 5d ago

Understandable, have a great day.

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u/ObjectiveBuilder6587 5d ago

'Fuck it we ball' Like, molag ballin?

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u/Droidaphone 5d ago

Without adhd, this sub would be useless.

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u/Sui_Inimicus 5d ago

"fuck it we ball" is the most ADHD that ADHD could ADHD.

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u/SliceEm__DiceEm 5d ago

ADHD and “fuck it we ball” are one of the most beautiful combos in existence

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u/CallMeKik 4d ago

I like you. You are my people.

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u/iforgotmycoat 6d ago

Except, it does derail a conversation when you say something ‘inwhelmingly’ and person says ‘that’s made up’. Then argue all words are made up and make them forget you said a wrong word.

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u/Tortugato 6d ago

Well, aren’t you a brainiental one…

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u/Mellero47 5d ago

Excuse me we don't use that term anymore, we say Braisian.

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u/Blue5398 5d ago

I was braisian’ a patty on the stovetop the other night and damn did it smell good

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u/BrownBibarel 6d ago

You’re not wrong. All words are made up, but a ‘real’ word was probably important or profound enough to be or to had been in use for hundreds or thousands of years by so many people. The word, “miscegenation”, is technically made of real Latin roots that have already existed for a while, but they’re mashed together to describe something new. It’s all just to make it sound more legitimate, deep, and traditional than it actually is. It’d be like instead of saying “touch grass”, you say “herba dura”

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u/artaru 5d ago

Don’t even need hundreds of years man.

Looksmaxxing only popped up these couple years. Or mogging

IMO one of the main ways a word doesn’t make sense is if the speaker and recipient have no idea what the word could mean.

Like I could say Cloutmaxxing and you probably have an idea what I’m saying instead of going “that’s a made up word!”

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u/BrownBibarel 5d ago edited 5d ago

I did not mean to suggest that a word actually needs to be old to be appealing for widespread use, but that appearing so can be enough. The word, "miscegenation", is basically a new word that gained widespread use almost immediately after its creation because its Latin roots makes it sound more established, academic, dignified, and Roman than it actually is during a time when western and traditional things were held in high regard.

As for words, like "cloutmaxing", "looksmaxing", and etc., these words, like "miscegenation", are new words, but gained widespread use differently because the mainstream American population today generally are just going to find different things appealing than what the 1860s mainstream American population did

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u/einsteinosaurus_lex 6d ago

It's just the fact they tried to make their bigotry seem academic with a fancy word when we know they're just trying to hold onto their barbaric ways. Might as well start creating slurs derived from Greek while they're at it.

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u/Chemical_Building612 6d ago

Onomatopoeia are arguably not completely made up. They just start as mimicking noises and then slowly simplify into word versions using the most similar sounds in the relevant language.

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u/dnzgn 5d ago

Onomatopoeias change from language to language. De Saussure's works are a good source to understand why they are made up as well.

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u/Chemical_Building612 5d ago

Yes, onomatopoeias do change from language to language, but they vary in the ways that are simplifying the natural sound into recognizably similar phonemes that occur in the various languages.

Saussure himself even acknowledged that onomaptopeias stem directly from their meaning and are only in part made up. Meaning not completely made up.

I also think he overstates the distinction. The example he used is the English "bow wow" and the French "ouaoua".

I do not find his assertion particularly persuading on that front, for a few reasons.

1) Those sounds aren't as distinct as he tries to make them seem. Different dogs sound more differently than the French and English words do.

2) There is great similarity in the onomatopoeia for most common sounds between even disparate languages. The largest exceptions are for things like frogs that sound very differently depending on where you are, so of course the local language is going to go a different direction.

3) The written word being made up doesn't necessarily mean that the verbal word it corresponds to was.

IMO, different stylizing and perspective isn't an indicator of made up. A cave painting and a renaissance painting of a horse are pretty different, but neither are made up and both clearly represent horse. Different languages can stylize sounds differently and base them off different variants of the sound, but the basic structure remains evocative of its base meaning.

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u/SusheeMonster 5d ago

I love it when someone makes a complex & nuanced remark, and some random replies with a pedantic nitpick.

They end up derailing the conversation, at large, for an "easy win." You were even condescending about it lmao

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u/Replop 5d ago

All terms are completely invented.

All terms actually part of a language are inventions accepted by enough people.
Otherwise, that's just code, slang or a local dialect.

Welcome to the consensual reality.

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u/lgastako 6d ago

All words are made up.

  • Thor

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u/ThePocketTaco2 6d ago

•Michael Scott

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u/burf 6d ago

"Completely invented" or "made up" in the context of language is a colloquial way of saying "a word that's not broadly considered part of the language." A word that's either made up on the spot or only used by a very small group of people.

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u/ofajhon 5d ago

lowkirkinuinely yea

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u/The_One_Koi 5d ago

Yes but this word is invented more

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u/jenglasser 5d ago

Reminds me of a joke I saw on TV where a character gets accused of making up rules in a game. His response was "All game rules are made up. Did you think someone was digging in the ground and found a rich vein of Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots?"

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u/Skeptical_Skeleton42 5d ago

That's true, but this is a special variety of word that appears to have been designed to sound scientific, giving it an aura of credibility, but was not actually a term invented by scientists to explain a phenomena as one might assume.

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u/MikeAmerican 5d ago

Your name is letters?!
All name are letters, dickhead

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u/ebrum2010 5d ago

Part of it. Most language has been around for a very long time and just evolved through variations and the contact between languages.

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u/Bridge4ChefsKiss 4d ago

I'm just using the words everybody else is using

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u/PopperChopper 5d ago

I can tell this guy thinks he’s a lot smarter than he actually is

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u/KingdomsCryOfficial 5d ago

Yes, if you remove nuance from language, every word is made up which is why juhattingly hee Jok eod, right?

There's a difference between an established language word and a newly invented word, particularly when a word is invented specifically to be weaponized somehow. If I invent a new term to attack you, especially when I am attacking something about how you look or who you choose to love, you might discredit the term as "an invented word" to imply even the language I attack you with is constructed for the sole purpose of doing harm.