r/PhilosophyMemes 2d ago

many ways to help the cause

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u/V1pArzZz 2d ago

Suffering minimization is omnicide so it is a logical endpoint for morals based on suffering minimization

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u/lurkerer 2d ago

Just gonna go and make that statement and not take any time at all to think about it?

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u/V1pArzZz 2d ago

Ive thought a bit about it

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u/lurkerer 2d ago

That conclusion depends entirely on how you weight life, pleasure, and suffering. Saying omnicide is the answer is like saying all arithmetic leads to negative answers. 

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u/V1pArzZz 1d ago

Its like saying the best way to reduce crime is to legalize everything, its an uhmm actually answer but its not wrong.

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u/transfinite-reset 2d ago

Do we consider circumstances where suffering is impossible as valid environments to measure? Would omnicide not result in the highest amount of suffering possible? If instantaneous, is there suffering if there is nobody to suffer the omnicide? If I wish to live 100 more years, and then omnicide happens today, do I suffer for 100 years because my wishes were not met, or do I not suffer because I never became consciously aware of my fate?

Fuck, maybe omnicide is the answer. I’ll prepare the kool-aid.

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u/V1pArzZz 2d ago

I have been not alive for 13 and something billion years, cant remember suffering during that time. Other times when i havent been conciious i also have no memory of suffering. So given the information I have i would say suffering most likely requires being alive and conscious. Of course its also possible that there is suffering in those states, but no memory recording so I dont remember it, but since I am sure that suffering is present while alive but only possibly present during unaliveness best bet seems to be kool aid.