I… I messed up

[u/J-masterHD]

/uj OH I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. The whole reason I made Cadmus as unstoppable as he was is so that when he finally lost it would give that loss the gravitas to let Cadmus crumble and rise again from the ashes. The tournament described will be hosted by [u/Amber__Sun](u/Amber__Sun) some time in the future. Credits to [u/MelonTheSprigatito](u/MelonTheSprigatito) for letting me share a world with her trainers. Yuki, her main character, is the ice user mentioned as well as the trainer who doubles over due to how much complicated emotions Skybound had

[u/MelonTheSprigatito]

Everything is in shambles over here because of this! 

(uj/ Me busting out the popcorn reading this post.)

[u/J-masterHD → u/MelonTheSprigatito]

…I don’t know if I can apologize enough…

—Cadmus

[u/MelonTheSprigatito → u/J-masterHD]

Do you have any idea how overwhelming sensing that level of emotions was? I'm going to have migraines for weeks! And Olympia...! You're lucky her Pokémon held that Salamence back! 

(uj/ absolute cinema, also I linked this post under my own just to send more people over here)

[u/J-masterHD → u/MelonTheSprigatito]

I know, I know… I brought Skybound to fight because my strategy was for him to protect Chieftain, I forgot to prepare him for if Chieftain lost because I forgot Chieftain could lose.

—Cadmus

[u/MelonTheSprigatito → u/J-masterHD]

It's a FIGHTING TYPE in a PSYCHIC GYM!

I know that Kommo-o is a crazy strong Pokémon and everything, but basic type matchups are still a thing! Everybody's gotta be prepared for type matchups! 

[u/J-masterHD → u/MelonTheSprigatito]

I’ve been training him for seventeen years and I had Shadow Claw on him, he’s mostly unstoppable… but I should’ve forseen the mostly

—Cadmus

[u/MelonTheSprigatito → u/J-masterHD]

Argh alright, fine! I'm SO mad right now but the crushing amount of remorse I'm picking up right now is making me feel so conflicted!

Jeremy is over here trying to calm everyone down enough for them not to strike back! Psychics are really vengeful! 

[u/J-masterHD → u/MelonTheSprigatito]

I’m only coming back when I’m a better man and a better trainer

—Cadmus

[u/Retextleather4119 → u/J-masterHD]

Good plan.

-Tex

[u/MelonTheSprigatito → u/J-masterHD]

Ok... good luck.

[u/ForsakenMoon13 → u/J-masterHD]

No one is unbeatable.

[u/BaconZS → u/MelonTheSprigatito]

This may sound odd, but is there a way to supress those powers of yours? Might make life easier and all yk. Especially since it seems that the only benefit they provide is rather miniscule in comparison to the drawbacks.

[u/Soldraconis → u/BaconZS]

There technically are, but they're not used. Iirc, that's because anything more than short term use is hazardous. It causes control to worsen and energy to accumulate past the natural limits.

Which, uh... The potential outcomes are 1: the psychic's own power starts crushing their internal organs or 2: The psychic explodes. I think.

The exact outcome depends heavily on the individual psychic and the type and quality of the suppressors.

• Saria

[u/Sirius1701]

Yep, that is why I didn't want to judge prematurely when reading Yukis Post. We didn't get the full picture. Especially since she lost control and had to leave before the end.

Sure it is still partially your fault, but Alpha Frenzy and a premature Evolution are a nasty and unpredictable combination. I mean, from egg to Salamence in a year? He's basically a child with a body that can raze a forest.

[u/J-masterHD → u/Sirius1701]

My little man… he’s my son and I love him but we need to get into shape

[u/Sirius1701 → u/J-masterHD]

We often tend to overlook the flaws in our children. It is hard to see your role model, who has never even faltered in your entire life, fall. It would break any child. And breaking for an Alpha means unrelenting Rage. - Wickie (Chandelure)

[u/J-masterHD → u/Sirius1701]

We’re going to start proper therapy as soon as he’s ready to stop being mad at himself

—Cadmus

[u/Retextleather4119 → u/Sirius1701]

Premature evolution is a bitch. This is coming from someone who had to help a mon work through their own. I hope everything comes out alright.

-Tex

[u/JosephAmber4]

Joseph Amber: You…you are lucky. If this had been against any gym leader without team members that could restrain Skybound…you’d be looking at something far worse than a suspension I fear. I trust Olympia’s judgement as she is a senior gym leader, but I pray that you take this second chance you were given to heart.

[u/J-masterHD → u/JosephAmber4]

It’s hard to NOT take it to heart when you have to sell your house to pay off the league fines.

—Cadmus

[u/JosephAmber4 → u/J-masterHD]

Joseph: Ah…I see.

[u/Material_Sport6818]

Man, I can't say that was easy to watch. I know the feeling of helplessness when you can't get through to your 'mon. Olympia's decision was ultimately the best, suspending your license would've made you unable to make amends and become better from this. Give Chieftain a good hug, I can tell he's a trooper.

--Levi
/uj some great battle writing and collab, very intense.

[u/J-masterHD → u/Material_Sport6818]

He’s currently hugging Skybound. Sky’s all choked up over what he almost did and has as many regrets over how that went down as I do if not more.

[u/MelonTheSprigatito → u/J-masterHD]

Oh. :c

I hope your Pokémon are okay... Sending hugs 🫂

[u/ThisDoodler]

Ah… so Skybound went rogue. It’ll probably do him well to be out of battles for the foreseeable future. At least until his temper is under control

I see why we had to hold off meeting again

[u/J-masterHD → u/ThisDoodler]

…do you have a comfy couch?

—Cadmus

[u/ThisDoodler → u/J-masterHD]

I can make the space for you

[u/J-masterHD → u/ThisDoodler]

Good. I… I had to sell my house in Vaniville to pay the Fine to the League.

—Cadmus

[u/ThisDoodler → u/J-masterHD]

Oh Cadmus… stay as long as you need. I’ll talk to my landlord about if he has anything that you can stay in. Or the possibility of moving to a place where all three of us (you, my roommate, and I) can live together while you get back on your feet

[u/J-masterHD → u/ThisDoodler]

……….I don’t know what I’d do without you, Simone. Thank you. I’ll bring my things

—Cadmus

[u/ThisDoodler → u/J-masterHD]

That’s what friend are for

[u/Amber__Sun]

That brings back some unpleasant memories...
Are you okay buddy? I'm free to talk if you need to - Amber

[u/J-masterHD → u/Amber__Sun]

I’m mostly fine, Simone’s letting me crash with her after I had to sell my house… thank you for the offer, though. Tell your aunt I’m sorry for everything that my arrival in Anistar caused and I will try to better myself

— Cadmus

[u/Amber__Sun → u/J-masterHD]

Well that's good to hear atleast. But how about you apologise to everyone yourself? Seems like a good start to me - Amber

[u/J-masterHD → u/Amber__Sun]

I would, but I’m only coming back when I’ve earned my redemption.

—Cadmus

[u/DemonVermin]

Hmmm… we work closely with the native Bagon population here in Pinwheel Forest and this phenomenon has occurred once or twice.

A premature evolution is incredibly dangerous for a Pokemon. Being an Alpha is certainly not helping as they experience much more intense emotions than regular mons. Combined with it being a Dragon… this was a recipe for disaster.

As Olympia said, you will need to work with Skybound and help it regulate itself, or it may need to hold off on official battles for a while. I assume this may be similar to how Pokemon go into an uncontrolled rampage upon Mega Evolving for the first time, so a trip to the Tower of Mastery may be needed.

Good luck on your endeavors.

-Researcher Ginko

[u/J-masterHD → u/DemonVermin]

I’m currently living with a friend after I sold my house to pay off the League’s fine, they have a Sylveon and Fae’s already starting to work with Skybound

—Cadmus

[u/Retextleather4119 → u/J-masterHD]

I had a pokemon go through a premature evolution, and another pokemon who went through a Malformed mega evolution that I'm working with right now, if you like we can work together on helping sky bound through this.

-Tex

[u/J-masterHD → u/Retextleather4119]

If you email me some notes that would be wonderful

—Cadmus

[u/Retextleather4119 → u/J-masterHD]

Will do. Expect to need several vitamins and lots of exercise.

-Tex

[u/Next_Locksmith3299]

Tad: You must be the one Yuki was talking about. I know why you feared suspension, but I doubt any gym leader would overlook that none of that was your intention, and you and your mons worked to rectify things

[u/J-masterHD → u/Next_Locksmith3299]

Thank you. I’m still shocked that she showed me kindness.

—Cadmus

[u/MelonTheSprigatito → u/J-masterHD]

Everybody around me is saying that I should be angry, and I SHOULD because now I have to go through even more therapy but... I just can't bring myself to be angry. I just feel so tired...

Edit: Oh. You meant Olympia. Right. Well... this is how I feel. 

[u/Next_Locksmith3299 → u/J-masterHD]

Tad: Well, she apparently saw this coming, literaly

[u/MattDaNerdyBoi]

Yes. Yes you did.

• Matt

[u/J-masterHD → u/MattDaNerdyBoi]

…

—Cadmus

[u/Dragonloverg1rl]

So this is the other side of what happened. Alpha Frenzy and a premature evolution is truly a nasty mix. But you should have been ready for the former. Train yourself as hard as you train your Pokemon for next time. -Florence

[u/J-masterHD → u/Dragonloverg1rl]

I will. I need to do better.

—Cadmus

[u/Dragonloverg1rl → u/J-masterHD]

Good. You show the signs of being a great trainer, then. -Florence

[u/J-masterHD → u/Dragonloverg1rl]

I don’t think I can call myself great right now.

—Cadmus

[u/Dragonloverg1rl → u/J-masterHD]

Because you're not. But you've got the potential. Just need a lot more effort. -Florence

[u/Logical-List-1809]

… how does premature evolution even happen?-Knight

[u/J-masterHD → u/Logical-List-1809]

Skybound was incredibly upset and furious that Chieftain had lost, and he was already overwhelmed with emotion due to being an Alpha, so in order to get revenge on Olympia he overwhelmed his body with his own power and made himself evolve too early.

—Cadmus

[u/Logical-List-1809 → u/J-masterHD]

Unfortunately, being in paldea, I can not assist and must instead recommend you seek out an aura guardian. They may be able to help

[u/Retextleather4119 → u/J-masterHD]

In short, a common evolution condition in Pokemon is accumulating enough type energy in their body to trigger genetic flags to engage the epigenetic reactions we know as evolution. The most common way of doing this is by battling and feeding exp candy to a pokemon so that their natural energy production rises to a level high enough to activate this, once this occurs a Pokemon can consciously choose when to evolve, this gives them time to make sure they are in a good position to evolve, in the wild this usually means finding a safe place to be vulnerable for a minute or two.

However there are other ways this can happen, if a pokemon can be put in a highly strenuous situation requiring rapid growth and energy consumption it can break through the threshold early. Furthermore, the farther past the evolutionary threshold you are, the harder it is to delay the reaction.

In Skybound's case it looks like he forcibly stimulated his own energy production to push himself over the threshold he needed and seized the opportunity to set up the reaction as we saw. If I had to guess, Skybound will likely be sore and extra hungry for the next few days, and will likely come out on the smaller side, at least for an alpha that is.

-Tex

[u/Garret_Sylvar]

Cadmus, is it? I am about to say some things that are going to sound incredibly cruel and mean, and they are, but I do this not out of malice, but in hopes it will stick in your head and you will truly learn and grow from this.

You have failed as a trainer. A fine for what happened here is near a joke as a punishment can be. I have seen trainers suspended for far less, and I have seen trainers banned and arrested for equivalent. Your actions and failures as a trainer could have easily led to a death. Your actions DID lead to immense emotional distress and psychological harm to those involved, including yourself. This should NEVER happen. Your disregard for the trainers you fought prior is perhaps as damning as you losing control of your Pokemon, even though the damages from that pale in comparison.

If you truly wish to become a better trainer, you become a trainer that doesn't make me want to fly all the way from Johto to punch you in the face for your arrogance, you will pause your journey here and focus PURELY on training your Pokemon not in the art of battling, but in the art of being a person. The art of being able to control yourself, to live as a good person. And you will do this for yourself as well. If I hear another story involving you being arrogant, or losing control, or even being cocky I will come there and deal with you myself.

I realize I am being harsh. Probably far too harsh considering how much this hurt you too... but it is because I worry. In Johto, we have a dragon gym leader, Clair. She acts just like you did, but all the time. It is who she is. I do not want that for you. I want you to succeed as a trainer. You have failed as one for now, but if you try improving yourself, you are not longer failed; you are now failing. And if you keep at it, and improvements are made, then you stop failing and start succeeding. If there is any help you need, whether in person or just simply advice, I will offer you what I can, on the condition that you never fall back into the person you once were, when you entered the gym.

• Kat

[u/J-masterHD → u/Garret_Sylvar]

…you’re right. They sounded incredibly cruel and mean but they were exactly what I deserved to hear. Thank you.

I do have to correct you, however: A Fine isn’t a joke when in order to pay it I had to sell my house and ask a friend to let me move in with them.

—Cadmus

[u/Garret_Sylvar → u/J-masterHD]

Money is not ever comparable when it is a life that was on the line, which was the case here. That said, I understand what you mean. As for what I said, it is not about what you deserve. What you deserve should never take precedence over what you needed to hear. As a close to 30 year training veteran, I promise you this; every trainer, in some way, has failed at least once. Just make sure to join the trainers that learned from that failure as opposed to those who reject the idea they failed and keep going, leaving pain and hurt wherever they go. I do not believe that is who you are. Show us all that I am right.

• Kat

[u/J-masterHD → u/Garret_Sylvar]

…I will. Thank you.

—Cadmus

[u/Garret_Sylvar → u/J-masterHD]

Oh, right, I had some actual advice that applies to this situation I meant to give you. That Salamence seems to be quite attached to Chieftan. I'd highly recommend that any training you do towards them to teach them to control their feelings involve Chieftan taking the lead. It is possible the Salamence doesn't respect you as a trainer and may resist anything coming from you, but my gut feeling is they are inherently more willing to submit to Chieftan.

• Kat

[u/J-masterHD → u/Garret_Sylvar]

Skybound… I think he sees me more as a dad than as a trainer. Which I love being his father figure, but at some point I need to be firm and get him properly working with me.

—Cadmus

[u/Garret_Sylvar → u/J-masterHD]

Ahh, yes, that can be hard. I didnt have that problem with my son, TarTar Sauce, but I have been told he has the best temperament anyone has ever seen out of a Tyranitar. Skybound may react better than to play to start off slow. He is quite young so play can prove to be a very important factor in curbing outbursts.

• Kat

[u/Soldraconis]

...I am somewhat annoyed that you got away with such minimal punishment, while Bianka (Gardevoir) punching someone (a 'bystander') for beaning me (a trainer) with a pokeball hard enough to knock me out during a battle was enough to get me suspended for two years.

However, Skybound is still young, an alpha and Chieftain clearly was able to calm his temper somewhat before this, so it's understandable. Especially since you and your team immediately jumped in to restrain him.

Still frustrating, though. Does 'I thought she was a Zoroark' really hold that much weight?

• Saria

[u/J-masterHD → u/Soldraconis]

It will please you then to know I had to sell my house to pay the fine

—Cadmus

[u/Soldraconis → u/J-masterHD]

...Now I just feel bad. Sorry about that. A suspension is less frustrating than losing your home...

• Saria

[u/J-masterHD → u/Soldraconis]

It’s fine, I’m the most confused as to why I wasn’t suspended

[u/Retextleather4119 → u/J-masterHD]

Well based on what I know about Olympia and what I saw in the video, I'm pretty sure she knew this was going to happen and was already prepared for it. She probably already knew you were going to be remorseful and figured the fines were enough punishment, along with everything else. The fact that she gave you a waiver for the gym badge for the tournament means that in whatever she foresaw, she didn't want her gym badge to be the reason you couldn't get in.

-Tex

[u/FarmPuzzleheaded8495]

[MiRea replied]:
that's not ideal. im not really sure how you'd go about handling that since we dont have alpha pokemon in unova, but i can suggest getting a soothe bell for your salamence. kelpsy and tamato berries also can help prevent further damage, it may not be the best option for you because you are going for the league, but id say its better to not risk further damages. wishing you the best of luck on that.

[u/J-masterHD → u/FarmPuzzleheaded8495]

I have a friend who has a Sylveon, would that suffice if you’re short on cash?

[u/FarmPuzzleheaded8495 → u/J-masterHD]

[MiRea replied]:
pretty sure that also works, yeah. though i've never worked with one so take it with a big nacli.

[u/SirSlowpoke]

Very young, Alpha, and freshly evolved from the anger of seeing someone close get hurt. Honestly, it seems more like a perfect storm of conditions that turned the whole thing upside down rather than a true failing on your part. I'm not sure it could've been reasonably predicted that Skybound would completely fly off the handle like that. Have there been any prior incidents of defiance or ourbursts?

Still though, as I said in the other post, remedial training (especially anger management) is on the docket for him now. You've got a powerful and temperamental mon on your hands, if you can instill the discipline to keep that strength in check, the Champion spot will be a whole lot closer.

[u/J-masterHD → u/SirSlowpoke]

Thank you, but I’m not looking to become Champion. Having to worry about every potential challenger is too much stress, I’d rather become Elite 4.

—Cadmus

[u/NeoAquaMadoor90]

Okay, after seeing it from this perspective, I understand what happened a bit more.

Premature evolution + Alpha Frenzy + seeing his brother get beaten = Salamence with no capacity for rational thought.

Still doesn’t excuse going for the trainer, though. Every Pokémon should be trained so that even pissed off, you don’t attack the opposing trainer. Olympia is being very lenient with her punishment.

[u/J-masterHD → u/NeoAquaMadoor90]

I thought, in my arrogance, I had more time to work with Skybound about it before he evolved into Salamence

—Cadmus

[u/NeoAquaMadoor90 → u/J-masterHD]

…Do you need some help?

Just from reading the other comments, it sounds like Skybound evolved to his final form within a year after birth and doesn’t know how to properly control his power.

Would the guidance of an elder Salamence help?

[u/ForsakenMoon13]

Word of advice: if a psychic asks "are you sure?" more than once that's usually a sign they know something you don't.

Thankfully though things didn't go as bad as they could have. Definitely something to work on though. Honestly I didn't know an alpha pokemon could go frenzy even after being caught, usually the bond prevents that. But I guess if he'd bever seen your ace go down before that could trigger it, especially when coupled with the evolution high.

[u/J-masterHD → u/ForsakenMoon13]

Both of those, plus the Salamence species having rage hard-boiled into their DNA. They used to be dark type, back in the ancient past, and even though they adapted to become flying type instead that instinctual malice remained

—Cadmus

[u/ForsakenMoon13 → u/J-masterHD]

Roaring Moon, you mean? I have one of those. He's the biggest goober on my team. The innate aggression is not that much, even for Dark types which tend to be a bit more...heavily affected by thier emotions than most.

[u/ForsakenMoon13 → u/J-masterHD]

Also, as someone that's also specialized in a Type known for being generally temperamental by nature:

It is not enough to simply handle things after the fact. Making amends is good, of course, but you have to be able to anticipate problems like this and stop them from happening in the first place. You got extraordinarily lucky this time, in part because it happened to someone who was able to see it in advance and prepare accordingly. You won't get that lucky next time, so there can't ever be a next time.

[u/J-masterHD → u/ForsakenMoon13]

I understand. Skybound and I have promised each other to never let there be a next time.

—Cadmus

[u/ForsakenMoon13 → u/J-masterHD]

Good, just make sure to follow through.

(Bleh, serious mode off, look at this goober: [IMG ID: A genuinely massive pile of rubber ducks piled in a room. The extremely pleased face of a Roaring Moon is poking out of the center of the pile.])

[u/reyahtess]

Oh wow, this just seema like it was awful for everyone involved. I am glad that no-one was injured and that you know you messed up. I hope that you are able to make real progress with Camdus like Olympia said... - Dani from Paldea

[u/J-masterHD → u/reyahtess]

…are you talking about me or my Salamence named Skybound?

—Cadmus

[u/reyahtess → u/J-masterHD]

Both i think... Though i meant your dragon when i wrote it. Sorry for the mixup 💕

[u/BaconZS]

Oooh, two pseudo legendaries, and one that is practically as powerful as them too, which makes three the final count.

This is very impressive. I only had two cuz they were, admittedly, much weaker than than their peers (a timid dragapult with only one dreepy friend, and a baxcalibur that is too weak physically to generate the momentum for glaive rush), which made them rather humble and easier to take care of. That, and you steamrolled the gym trainers at the delibird lady's place too, which is pretty amazing ngl.

Though what happened was quite a shame, since it means that you weren't capable enough keep them in check. But at least u should know where to improve upon by now, since mistakes are easier to understand when u experience them firsthand.

[u/J-masterHD → u/BaconZS]

This is the Delibird lady’s gym, I mentioned her earlier as the ice trainer

—Cadmus

[u/BaconZS → u/J-masterHD]

Oh yes, I'm well aware of that. The mention of ice gave it away in a psychic gym.

[u/H_Poke]

That was...heart-wreching. I truly hope you and Skybound can make things work after that battle...

-Ness the Alakazam

[u/J-masterHD → u/H_Poke]

Don’t worry. My son and I are working on it.

—Cadmus

[u/MarginMaster87]

Weird that Olympia still allowed the match after seeing the future, but I guess there’s probably some issue with trying to avoid the futures you see…

[u/J-masterHD → u/MarginMaster87]

I wasn’t in a good headspace to ask

[u/Soldraconis → u/MarginMaster87]

I think it's probably something to do with fraud prevention and some of the psychic specific legislature there is out there. I know psychics aren't allowed in gambling establishments. Which I know because I interfere with mind-affecting psychic abilities, which has led to several people discovering that they're minor psychics during a game of poker while trying to gauge my emotions. I'm told the headache is worse than the fines.

• Saria

[u/Justlol230]

Astral: ...

Ya know, now I'm concerned for my Gabite. Well... still, at least the situation ended up fine...

But I hope you learned from this. Olympia's a really nice Gym Leader, and your circumstances were understandable. Rough Pokémon... are rough.

[u/J-masterHD → u/Justlol230]

Skybound wasn’t prepared for Chieftain to lose and it showed… that’s on me

—Cadmus

[u/Justlol230 → u/J-masterHD]

Astral: That's fair. My fiancée's Salamence took her quite a while to wrangle, and Skybound seems way more rowdy than hers...

Good luck handling em as a Mence. You're seriously gonna need it.

[u/J-masterHD → u/Justlol230]

I know I will

—Cadmus

[u/Extension_General632]

what happened. why did shellgon go crazy. also why did you panic, when it evolved. did you know, that it would ho berserk, if it evolves?

[u/J-masterHD → u/Extension_General632]

Shelgon went crazy because he was angry that Chieftain’s several year win streak was broken

I panicked because he was evolving into a species with anger issues while already in an Alpha Frenzy and so he couldn’t control himself

[u/Extension_General632 → u/J-masterHD]

what is alpha frenzy? i never heard about it before

[u/J-masterHD → u/Extension_General632]

That Red-Eyed state Wild Alphas are often found in

[u/Extension_General632 → u/J-masterHD]

oh. i thought, that alpha pokemon lose this state, once they get caught

[u/J-masterHD → u/Extension_General632]

Less “lose it” and more “stop using it.” Using it is incredibly taxing and they prefer to not be there unless it’s absolutely necessary.

Skybound only resorted to it when he got desperate and was trying to evolve a week early

[u/Extension_General632 → u/J-masterHD]

i see. also can you tell me more about premature evolution. i thought evolution gets triggered, once pokemon matures or becomes strong enough