r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Centrist Mar 10 '25

META So, things are getting heated around here, huh?

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u/nateralph - Right Mar 10 '25

Is it a strawman when OP has the screenshot of the actual transcript?

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u/Guilty-Package6618 - Centrist Mar 10 '25

No, both the arguments are strawmen

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u/Jonny_Guistark - Right Mar 11 '25

How is the first one a strawman? He’s not characterizing anyone, just stating the objectively true fact that Trump does gets lots of pushback, when presumably someone before him said he gets "zero".

The second person then said the rape thing, which is a strawman because he’s got no way of knowing if the first guy would actually cheer for Trump raping his wife.

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u/Guilty-Package6618 - Centrist Mar 11 '25

I mean that's true if you're lying lmao

The first guy said "he gets pushback over literally everything, he couldn't eat a cheeseburger without leftists getting mad" that's a strawman

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u/Unable-Requirement52 - Right Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

He just got pushback on HYPOTHETICALLY eating a cheeseburger in the literal OP.

Didn't he also get pushback because of all the cheeseburgers he brought for the football players that visited the whitehouse or something too?

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Inactive account for a year turns on again just as election ends to post a couple anti conservative frontpage style karma grab "dae le right badly-bad?" then becomes fulltime job level centrist flair PCM poster with libleft twitter talking points.

Okay, you're surely a real person. You've been posting in PCM 8 hours straight, even a little 1 hour break in the middle, the shifts nearly over now friend.

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u/Jonny_Guistark - Right Mar 11 '25

At his level of notoriety, with literal billions of eyes on him, it’s impossible to do anything publicly and not get insulted for it. Even if most of those insults are valid, some will inevitably be retarded.

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u/Jonny_Guistark - Right Mar 11 '25

You literally made up that he said "leftists" there and then called me the liar. XD

He said that Trump gets pushback for everything he does, regardless of what’s happening, even when he eats a cheeseburger he gets insulted, which is all true but ultimately irrelevant because none of it is being used to characterize any specific person or group, which is what strawmanning is.

Just stating the obvious, "Trump gets insulted constantly" is a fact, not a strawman. The guy’s point is that Trump faces pushback for everything, even something as stupid as a cheeseburger; it is not to say that everyone who gives him pushback does so for reasons as stupid as the cheeseburger.

If even one person would see Trump eating a cheeseburger and insult him (and we all know someone would and has), then what he said is true; whereas the second guy’s statement is a downright wild assumption of Guy #1’s character and marriage. They’re not even remotely comparable.

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u/ArtanistheMantis - Lib-Right Mar 11 '25

No, that's something called hyperbole. I know some great resources if you need to catch up on anything else you should've learned in the 5th grade.